Okay, no, it's not Jabba the Hutt, it is Donald the Hutt, aka Donald Lee Laisure.
This fat waste of space married Susan Atkins back in the crazy eighties for like ten minutes. Then, during a conjugal visit, she supposedly attacked him with a knife.
Ahh, fun times.
Here's the question though. You're in jail for like seven murders and stuck with sapphic love and self-diddling for life. For a short window you get the chance to get married and have some man love. And you choose this freakazoid?
I know the new husband is no prize, but he at least helped expose Nelson.
What the hell was Susan thinking?
The most irritating thing at each parole hearing was to hear Steve Kay (Judy to Bug's Punch) list this marriage and alleged stabbing as another reason why she shouldn't get out of jail.
Hey, four eyes you nerd- she shouldn't get out because she stabbed a pregnant woman and danced in her blood, okay. If you need another reason then you suck as much as you look like you do. You claimed BLACK DAHLIA AVENGER was an accurate book, you idiot, Susan can marry a Hutt if she wants to. Just keep her away from the Col.
Sorry for the rant.
Anyone know what became of Donald the Hutt?
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I thought savage/Carlos said bye-bye to this blog. Was that just for the day?
Poor Susan - all she did was comfortingly hold and talk to Sharon while Tex stabbed her.
What the hell was Susan thinking?
I think that's the biggest problem.. Susan never did any of her own thinking...
Was her marriage to him before or after they put an end to conjugal visits? If it was before, I think you may have your answer....
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I think it's highly debatable on whether or not Susan actually stabbed Sharon.. She claims she was holding Sharon's arms behind her while Tex did the dirty deed..
That can't be true because Sharon had many defensive wounds to both her arms..
Susan had no problem stabbing Voyteck in the legs, so I'm sure she stabbed Sharon once or twice..
What she says now, is all lies.. Lies from a desperate woman who knows she'll never walk free ever again.
She says that everything she told the Grand Jury was the truth. If that's is indeed the truth, then she did stab Sharon.
What "bayonette" do you keep referring too?
Sharon's wounds were 4 inches in depth. That hardly qualifies as a "bayonette" wound, that's a knife wound..
It's really irrelevant if Susan "actually" stabbed Sharon.. She went, she helped, she held her down, she laughed in her face, she helped to get rid of prints... Later, she laughed and gloated about how she helped kill Sharon Tate...
I'd say that pretty much makes her just as guilty of her death.
suesan just picked the wrong guy
Tex says he brought a knife to the Tate house, Tex was there.. He says that he stepped up to Parent with a gun in one hand and his knife in the other..
He says he brought a bayonet with him to the LaBianca's..
So if you say he had a bayonet with him both nights, why does he say that he didn't?
Where in the coroner's report does it say that Tex used a bayonet?
It still doesn't matter whether Susan stabbed her or not. It doesn't make her any less guilty of her death.
Tex did stab her, I have no doubt of that.. But just because Susan didn't take any shots doesn't make her an innocent woman...
Nothing Susan has ever said is 100% factual...
You cannot disclose for personal reasons? There's something about this case that actually give someone "personal reasons" LOL
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well heaven he can give away his snitch's
I have no doubt what so ever that Tex stabbed Sharon... But I do doubt that Susan was holding Sharon's arms behind her back..
If Sharon's arms were behind her, then she would have defensive wounds on them..
So, if Susan wasn't busy stabbing Sharon, what was she doing?
Meant to say...
If Sharon's arms were behind her, then she wouldn't have defensive wounds on them..
but again heaven susan changes her story every time she tells it, how can u tell what is real and what is not
You can't... She'll lie to you about the time of day...
Didn't Susan go outside to Linda and get another knife from her after she lost the knife she came to the Tate house with?
Also, I haven't read the autopsy report, but the first investigation report recounts the victims injuries and doesn't say anything about Sharon Tate having defensive wounds in her arms.
Does she now deny saying those horrible things to Sharon Tate as she pleaded for her life?
No way was she just idly standing around not doing anything.
Deb,
You can see by the death photos that Sharon has several wounds to both her arms. There are photos of these wounds specifically...
And it's also in her autopsy report.
Savage,
It doesn't matter when Susan went out for Linda's knife, fact is, she did go.. So she did have a knife with her when they killed Sharon...
Meant to also say that Susan lost her knife during her struggle with Voyteck.. So we know it was at least after the chaos began that she went out and got Linda's. We just don't know at what exact point..
Sharon had a stab wound to the back of one of her legs, probably courtesy of Susan..... Stabbing in the legs seemed to be her thing..
We can't say with any degree of certainty that she in fact did not stab Sharon. We don't know, we weren't there. But the fact is, she did stab Voyteck, be it in the leg.. And she did stab her husband. So why are we to believe that she didn't have it in her to take a poke at Sharon?
She was wild and rebellious as a youth, as i'm sure that many of us can say we were at her age, and she lost her mom at a time in her life when she needed that guidance.
I greatly disagree with that statement.. Poor Susan, she had a bad childhood.. So that gives her the right to take part in one of the most grotesque murders of the 20th century?
I had a very wild childhood AND I never had a mother, but I didn't go around terrorizing and helping to kill innocent people..
Susan is using her past as a crutch and that's a slap in the face to those of us who overcame our pasts and made something of ourselves.
She's not a bad person? No, you're right.. Good people always hold pregnant women down as they scream out for their babies lives so they can be butchered a bit more neatly...
Her life is a tragic story? If anyone wrote her own life's path, it was Susan. A lot of kids have abusive tragic childhoods and they overcome it...
Susan chose her own path in life, now she must deal with the consequences.
So, who told her to taste Sharon's blood?
I can understand what you're trying to say, but minimizing Susan's actions isn't going to change what she did..
I believe Tex killed Sharon, but I'm not convinced that Susan didn't stab Sharon in the leg. We knew she had a knife.. She used a knife to get Sharon and Jay into the living room...
According to Susan, after her struggle with Tex, Linda had approached the house, telling Susan to "make it stop".. So Linda was standing right there when Voyteck came outside and collapsed..
It was then that Susan took Linda's knife, so it only took her 2 seconds to become armed again..
You make it sound like there was no opportunity for Susan to have gotten Linda's knife.. Linda was standing right there outside the door...
She then returned to the house and guarded Sharon while Tex finished off Voyteck.. Then, Patricia became busy with Gibby.
You can dispute whatever you wish, but the facts are the facts...
Susan being attractive is a matter of opinion. Susan, (in my opinion) was never good looking. In her mug shot, she looks like a total idiot.
The prettiest girl in the famiy was (in my opinion) Ruth Ann, second was Leslie...
There is more to attractiveness than just the physical.. Somehow that green puss the seeped from Susan's crotch just doesn't sound very appealing. Not to mention the fact that she sexually molested her infant son. In my opinion, she's disgusting, in many ways..
Hiya Sieben,
It's good to see ya..
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. I think Dorothy Stratten was stunning, but not everyone agree's..
Why, that's me in that picture.. Aren't I a hottie LOL
Actually, it's Jenna Jamison lol
She's a big slut but I love her hair lol
Savage,
Like I said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. If you think Susan is good looking, that's your right...
Dorothy Stratten's murder was very tragic, all over greed and jealousy. Poor girl was caught in the crosshairs..
Sieben,
Nope, that wasn't my picture..
Everything between the Col and I are cool now.. We put the past to rest... I used the picture of Jenna cause everyone I know tells me I look just like her...
60skid,
I completely agree with your last post.. Susan was found guilty of 7 murders. Apparently she hasn't been able to convince the parole board that she didn't do anything wrong..
In my opinion, conspiracy is just as bad as though you took the life yourself. Susan is guilty, she needs to serve her time and STFU.. My opinion of course...
=)
Savage,
You can read all the parole transcripts here, including the psyc exams
http://www.internet.is/bret/manson.htm
If you go through and read all her hearings, you'll see how much her story has changed. This woman, even today, wouldn't know the truth if it bit her in the ass.
How can anyone feel sorry for someone who does nothing but lies?
Apparently susan feels that because she has found God and become a Christian, that somehow erases all the wrong doings..
The fact that she was there when Gary was killed didn't seem to scare her off. She was happy to go to the Tate house and she knew exactly what was going to happen there...
60skid makes a very good point.. Why would Susan, the sexually free girl who had no inhibitions, no fears about sex and had done everything that could be done, be scared of lesbians?
Wasn't it Tom Jones she said she wanted to have sex with, then kill him as he climaxed?
This is about Susan's marriage...
http://www.internet.is/bret/Atkins-1982-marriage-report.htm
heaven remember what susan said about frank sinatra , they they were going to chop me in little peices so everyone could have a peice of frank
Susan's Grand Jury testimony.. This is what she swears today, is the truth... I've highlighted some of my favorites
Q.Did Tex tell you why he and you three girls were going to
Tony Melcher's former residence?
A.To get all of their money and to kill whoever was there.
So, by her own "truthful" admission. She knew exactly where she was going and why she was going there...
Susan recanted this statement in 1993 when she claimed she had no idea why they were going to 10050 Cielo drive. But remember, she swears today that this testimony is the truth...
Q.Did you have a knife in your hand at that time?
A.Yes, I did.
Q.What happened next?
A.I hesitated long enough for the man to jump up. he knocked
me down and I grabbed him as best I could and then it was a fight
for my life as well as him fighting for his life.
Somehow he got hold of my hair and pulled it very hard and
I was screaming for Tex to help, or somebody to help me, and
Frykowski, he was also screaming.
Somehow he got behind me and I had the knife in my right hand and I was - -I was - - I don't know where I was at but I was just swinging with the knife and I remember hitting something
four, five times repeatedly behind me. I didn't see what it was
that I was stabbing.
Once again, in 1993 she retracted this statement, saying she never stabbed anyone...
I saw Tex go back outside and then he came hack inside
and at that time Katie and I were standing by Sharon and she was
out of her mind. She was saying nothing. She was not screaming. I
was not holding her. I was just standing in front of her.
Tex told me to kill her. I couldn't. I just - - in order to make a diversion so that Tex couldn't see that I couldn't kill her I grabbed her hand and held her arms and then I saw Tex stab her in the heart area around the chest. With a knife. Then I saw Sharon fall to the floor off the couch and we went, all three of us, went out the front door.
So, why did Sharon have so many defensive wounds to her arms if Susan was holding them behind her back?
This is where the author supports my question...
If you examine the death scene photo of Sharon Tate, it is
rather obvious that the victim was sitting when she began to be
stabbed. The blood on the cushion supports that. Was it only once to the heart? If so, it was fatal! But then, what about those defensive wounds on the left arm of Sharon Tate? How could she have deflected those blows, if Susan held her arms behind her?
Good question...
Maybe someone should hold up Q cards for Susan at her hearings so she can remember which lies she told at which hearing...
Audio,
Yes, Susan is a Christain now, but she wasn't when she first arrived at SBI in 1969.. She was fresh from the Family then ..
Yeah, thats quite a ring to be sporting when you're walking around "the yard". lol
If Manson didn't actually kill anyone, why was he found guilty of murdering Shorty?
Manson not murdering anyone is HIGHLY debatable... Just because he didn't kill any of the 7 Tate/LaBianca victims doesn't mean he never killed anyone...
Savage, when you're laying next to Susan, make sure you ask her if the green oozing vaginal puss is all cleared up...
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I think Susan he had all these wierd ideas about death and killing, she's been around Manson and believed his crap that "death is an illusion"; when you kill someone, you're really just killing yourself; people are just egos with shells. She really didn't think she'd done anything wrong and celebrated what she'd done - she had no compunction about freely admitting what she'd done.
She's now backed off from those statements.
I think she did tell the truth at the grand jury - I believe her statements about the murders then more than I believe what she says now.
heaven if susan was released today and had a choice of 2 doors to leave from and one door was a church van with born again christians and the other door was a van with country sue and sandra good
do u really think that susan would still go with the born again christians
its a prison game being born again,
Nellie,
I can't really make a judgment call about Susan's religious conversion.. It's between her and God..
I do think it that it's pretty convenient that she becomes a Christian and publishes her first (self serving) book just before her first parole hearing.. It's also funny that Tex did the same exact thing...
Savage,
It's a well known fact that Susan had VD so bad that she had green puss seeping out of her viginia. It also caused sores on her feet, that's why she couldn't wear shoes to the Tate house. During her struggle with Voyteck, the sores broke open..
By her own admission, the green shit coming out of her crotch was "the most God awful stuff you ever smelled"..
I dunno bout you, but if I was a guy my dick would be throbbing right now.... NOT! Sorry to break it to ya big boy, but I never had crotch rot so no, I don't have experience.. But I cahn read... Since you're a fan of Susan's, I'm surprised you haven't read her book.. She talks all about this....
I know it's gone.. I would hope after almost 40 years she would have had it treated lol
I've never heard of anyone having VD that bad before either...
The 60's were loaded with drugs, sex and VD.. Weren't there any free clinics around back then that could have treated her for it?
Why on earth would she wanna walk around with it? It just seems rather strange that the thought to get it treated, didn't seem to occur to her..
4Sharon,
For me, it's not a matter of hating Susan or thinking she's trash. I'm not Susan's judge and jury, nor am I Debra's..
You can't really compare Debra and Susan.. Whatever mistakes Debra has made she's made them against herself and she has to live with it..
What Susan has done is entirely different.. Hers was crimes that affected society. So she wasn't just hurting herself..
I can't feel sorry for Susan and I'm really not interested in her "difficult childhood".. She was 21 years old when she committed these crimes. The statute of limitations on her childhood had run out. She was then a grown woman.. She knew right from wrong.. She needs to accept her punishment and deal with it...
Debra has never harmed anyone, that I'm aware of.. Her ghosts and skeltons are her own...
Savage,
I'm sorry but I just can't muster up any sympathy for some of them, especially Susan..
Life is full of choices.. God gave us a brain and the ability to use it.. Susan lacked common sense, the ability to think for herself.. Manson didn't take it, she gave it to him.. He never forced her to do anything she didn't want to do..
Susan made her choices back in 1969 and I just don't feel sorry for her in the least. She should have thought about the punishment before she committed the crime..
As for a free ride, you bet your ass she got a free ride. She's got a roof over her head, food in her stomach, clothes on her back, all medical, and dental expenses paid, including her hearing aid.. She even has a college degree, that she'll never use.. And, she was able to publish a book..
How much money in tax dollars was spent on all of this? She's not paying for it. I'd call that a free ride. I have to pay for my house,food, clothing, medical & dental expenses.. No one provides these things for me..
If her life is so hard, maybe she should have thought about that..
I don't care how much of Susan's life has been spent locked up, no matter how long it is, it'll never be long enough..
My sympathy goes out to Steve Parent, Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Voyteck Frykowski, Leno LaBianca, Rosemary LaBianca, Sharon Tate and her innocent baby.. Those are the people that suffered.. I feel bad for their families, for all the Christmas, Thanksgivings and birthdays that they'll never again share with those they loved.
How do you think Sharon Tate felt as Susan laughed in her face, tormenting her? How do you think Paul and Doris Tate felt as Susan laughed, giggled and played up to the cameras during the trial?
She didn't care about anyone but herself, and now she has no one to blame BUT herself...
I agree 100%.. Susan, Tex, and Patricia are all guilty. No one is worse than anyone else, they all played an equal role of the events that happened..
But in that guilt is also Manson and Linda...
I don't believe that Susan delivered any of the fatal blows to Sharon, BUT, I wouldn't be surprised if the leg wound Sharon had was done by Susan.. Maybe it wasn't, but we'll never know cause we'll never get a truthful account out of Susan..
The only story I really believe is Patricia's...
Actually I take that back, Tex was the worst...
4Sharon,
Some people fall over themselves over Debra, simply because she was Sharon's sister. I am not one of those people..
Debra is really a nobody, a wanna be who tries to live in her dead sisters shadow...
The Tate family have their lives ripped apart by no fault of their own, so for that, I do feel bad for Debra.. But am I a fan of hers? No.. I am a fan of Sharon, and I don't feel that I have to worship Debra to honor Sharon. They were two seperate people...
=)
Savage,
The reason we're showing more anger towards Susan and not Tex or Patricia is because we're not discussing Tex and Patricia right now.. This topic is about Susan...
Susan may not have stabbed Sharon, but to sit in Sharon's house, holding her down and telling her she had no mercy for her, to me, is a very cruel thing to do...
Sharon was "out of her mind". Susan's own words..
How could she take part in what was happening and still feel good about herself? You say that she was freaked out and didn't want to be there...
She tasted Sharon's blood, on her own free will.. No one made her do it.. Someone who isn't enjoying what they see, isn't going to do something so sick.
Sharon begged for her babys life and Susan told her to "Shut up bitch, I don't care if you're going to have a baby. You're going to die and I don't feel a thing about it, So be ready"..
All I can say to Susan is..
"Shut up bitch. I don't care if you're sorry. You're going to rot in prison and I don't feel a thing about it. So be ready"..
Ahhh Susan, to spend almost 40 years in prison.. Must suck being her. But I don't have the slightest bit of sympathy for her. She made her own bed, I hope she hates lying in it...
Same goes for Tex too...
As for The Hollywood Walk Of Fame...
I'd love to see Sharon get a star, but it's probably never going to happen.. Sharon is more famous for her death than her life...
heaven did u know that charlie was calling susan sexy saie mae glutz a year and 1/2 before john lennon wrote it, and it fit susan to a tie,rread the lerics to the song, its susan
The father of Susan's kid was some guy (I think his name was Robert) that she met before she met Manson.. She was already pregnant when she met Manson...
Nellie,
I'm familiar with the lyrics to Sexy Sadie, and I know manson gave her the name Sadie before the song came out. Personally though, I never found Susan to be sexy, but that's just me...
=)
Savage,
Let me ask you something... Do you think that Susan's only crime was if she stabbed Sharon?
You keep saying in almost every post that you don't believe Susan stabbed Sharon, ok, we got it...
It doesn't matter really if Susan did any of the actual killing, it doesn't minimize her involvement..
Did you know that in many states they passed a law that if a car is driven by a drunk driver with a drunk passenger, they're both guilty of DUI... Why? Because neither of them were fit to decide who should drive the car. Now, maybe that law isn't enforced, but it is on the books...
So Susan didn't actually stab Sharon, she did stab Voyteck.. Maybe she didn't kill him, but do you go around stabbing people in the leg as a favor to them?
Just the fact that she was there and participated was enough to put her away forever...
Of course she's different now, it's been almost 40 friggin years.. Are you the same person you were 20 years ago? Of course not.. That changes nothing...
How Susan is TODAY has no bearing on the crimes she's committed in the past... You seem to think it means everything..
They don't empty out prisons simple because inmates have "changed"..
Susan wants out, of course she's going to act like a changed woman. She knows they wouldn't consider her for parole if she didn't..
No one really cares how hard her life is.. You seem to be all alone in this.. The rest of us understand the word choice.. She made her choices many years ago.. We also understand the word consequence... You need to stop preaching about how hard her life was cause it looks like no one cares.. She did this to herself, we didn't do it to her. Why should we feel sorry for her?
She needs to get down on her knee's and be thankful they didn't drop the pill on her. At least she's alive, that's more than she gave the victims.. She's able to celebrate holidays and get college degrees.. Her "hard life" isn't my problem...
Rich,
I agree, this topic is getting old. I think we've said all there is to say....
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Savage,
I really hate bring religion into these types of discussions.. Everyone has his or her own beliefs and sometimes adding religion only brings out the worst...
Forgiving Susan isn't up to me, that's between her and God.. I'm sure God has forgiven her, murder is a forgivable sin...
But I don't have to feel sympathy for her present living situation. God gave her a brain and the ability to know right from wrong. I didn't tell her to break into houses and participate in killing the occupants. Susan decided to do that...
I don't know the Bible word for word, but I do believe there's something in there that says something about obeying the laws on earth as you would in Heaven.. And something else about an eye for an eye...
If Susan is truly a Christian who has turned her life over to Jesus, then her rewards will be in Heaven.. But for now, here in the mortal world, she has to pay for the crimes she's committed...
Just as other inmates who have turned to Jesus do.. Susan isn't alone..
Maybe God feels Susan can be of better use inside the prison helping others.. Maybe it was her destiny... I dunno...
If you want to feel sympathy and pity for Susan, that's your right, but it isn't fair of you to "expect" everyone else too also. We have a right to our thoughts, views and opinions, just like you. Simply because we don't all agree with you doesn't mean we're heartless animals. Just try to keep this thought in mind.. It wasn't us who put Susan where she is today, She did it to herself...
As for the justice system, I think we all know it's a joke in this country... But in the case of Susan, Tex, Manson, Leslie and Patricia, I think they're punishment is just.. That's my opinion...
I have no problem with Bobby being released. He didn't take part in the slaughter of 7 people.. 8 if you count an unborn child...
Savage,
You obviously misunderstood my post, or maybe I'm not explaining myself very well.. This topic is getting very old...
In regards to Bobby, what he did was wrong, very wrong.. But almost 40 years for 1 murder is quite harsh. He didn't take part in the Tate/LaBianca crimes..
Most people that don't follow this case have never heard of Gary or Bobby. That crime didn't make national headlines...
I said I'm not opposed to his release, but if the parole boards decide to keep him in jail, I'm not opposed to that either. I never said I was "willing" to let him go... I'll just let the parole board decide what's best in that case...
This whole topic is becoming that dead horse... You and I each see things differently, it doesn't make either of us wrong.. Only different...
=)
Rich,
I dunno if they're paying for the notoriety or the Manson connection or because of the brutality involved in the murders. But each time they're denied parole it's because they still pose a risk to society.. For whatever reasons...
The decision to free these people does not rest with any of us. We can have our opinions and it doesn't matter. The power to free them isn't ours.
The parole board must see something in them the you don't because they all keep getting denied. So instead of being angry at us for our opinions, have you written to the parole boards? Your words will have more influence with them...
=)
Savage,
Before you misunderstand me again, let me clarify...
I know what Bobby did to Gary, I know as much of the story as there is to know... The word "harsh" was probably not the best choice cause now you're going to tell me that what Bobby did to Gary was harsh.. And I'll agree that it was..
What I meant to say is, if you feel Susan should be released after being found guilty of 7 murders, then Bobby should be released after being found guilty of 1...
I hope that makes better sense...
=)
Rich,
You feel that Susan has paid her eye for an eye?
You honestly feel that way?
I'll admit that math isn't my strong suit, but I divided 37 years by 8, that comes out to 4.6 years served for each life she participated in taking... That includes Sharon's unborn child.
If you chose not to include him (even though his was a life) the it comes out to 5.2 years served for 7 deaths..
That's an eye for an eye?
Now look at Bobby.. 1 life, 37 years...
See the difference?
You mentioned a 3rd world justice system.. Compared to the system of other countries, our jails are like hotels.. In other countries, these people would have been put to death a long time ago. Other countries do not provide lifers with college degrees and transplant surgeries. Susan wouldn't have her hearing aid.. She wouldn't have been able to publish her book. She wouldn't have a decent cot to sleep in, or a TV to watch, or a website..
While our system is screwed up, time served for multiple murders doesn't even come close to how bad the system is in other parts of the world...
=)
You can't treat all crimes and the punishments exactly the same. Each situation is different. There are so many different factors to consider when someone comes up for parole...
=)
Leslie was found guilty of one count of conspiracy to commit murder and two counts of murder in the first degree.
Whether or not you agree with that doesn't change it...
Apparently because she was there and participated, they found her guilty of Leno's death too.
Bobby was still only found guilty of one murder..
Savage babe,
We've debated the Susan topic to death.. I'm really not up for debating Leslie too..
But I will say, there is no proof what-so-ever that Rosemary was dead when Leslie stabbed her... According to her autopsy, after Tex stabbed her, she crawled two feet with a severed spine..
Even Leslie herself said at a parole hearing that she didn't know if she was dead or alive..
The coroner said one of the stab wounds Leslie inflicted, was fatal...
So, we'll never know if Rosemary still had a pulse or not.. But it really doesn't matter.. Leslie picked up a knife and plunged into another human body... Dead or alive, it doesn't matter. Her hands were more dirty than Susan's...
So, by your standards, we should just release the females in this case? You can preach until the end of time that Rosemary was dead, but you (nor anyone) knows that to be a fact...
All I know is what the police report said.. After Tex stabbed her and before Leslie began, Rosemary crawled two feet.. More than likely it was when Tex was getting Leslie that Rosemary was crawling... But I dunno that for a fact of course...
Just the thought of that is unbelievable... I can't imagine what the poor woman went thru...
I like you Savage, you're a nice and intelligent person.. So I think we're going to have to agree to disagree in this post lol
hi the date of birth that you have listed along with death is of my father donald leo laisure of waynesboro ga he was from orland ind
he was retired us army and is no way this man from texas we did live in texas in the 60s at fort hood ,thanks donald leo laisure ll
@Heaven I am reading your blog because I am writing a theatrical monologue inspired by Susan Atkins. I have read your comment where you say that she abused her newborn baby ... or did I get it wrong? I would like to know how you got this news. I'm reading "Helter Skelter" and "Daughter of Satan, daughter of God" and I'm trying to write a text as faithful as possible to what this person really was. Thanks in advance :)
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