tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post114002634466785018..comments2023-11-03T03:18:55.138-07:00Comments on Official Tate-LaBianca Murders Blog: Solo....heh...heh...hehColScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-14256796452840828332020-12-18T03:57:26.229-08:002020-12-18T03:57:26.229-08:00@Heaven I am reading your blog because I am writin...@Heaven I am reading your blog because I am writing a theatrical monologue inspired by Susan Atkins. I have read your comment where you say that she abused her newborn baby ... or did I get it wrong? I would like to know how you got this news. I'm reading "Helter Skelter" and "Daughter of Satan, daughter of God" and I'm trying to write a text as faithful as possible to what this person really was. Thanks in advance :)Sopravvissuta di morte innaturalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311119759392092730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-46121973355458663402020-12-18T03:56:03.551-08:002020-12-18T03:56:03.551-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sopravvissuta di morte innaturalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12311119759392092730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-14493250742813700932014-04-23T03:33:17.804-07:002014-04-23T03:33:17.804-07:00hi the date of birth that you have listed along wi...hi the date of birth that you have listed along with death is of my father donald leo laisure of waynesboro ga he was from orland ind<br />he was retired us army and is no way this man from texas we did live in texas in the 60s at fort hood ,thanks donald leo laisure ll Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16449655184339013575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140630077816790252006-02-22T09:41:00.000-08:002006-02-22T09:41:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140619251833583322006-02-22T06:40:00.000-08:002006-02-22T06:40:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140578712336920662006-02-21T19:25:00.000-08:002006-02-21T19:25:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140573531035764832006-02-21T17:58:00.000-08:002006-02-21T17:58:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140561441496965932006-02-21T14:37:00.000-08:002006-02-21T14:37:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140412483910446112006-02-19T21:14:00.000-08:002006-02-19T21:14:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140412071473069752006-02-19T21:07:00.000-08:002006-02-19T21:07:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140408890871606342006-02-19T20:14:00.000-08:002006-02-19T20:14:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140407944676795132006-02-19T19:59:00.000-08:002006-02-19T19:59:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140403152674783352006-02-19T18:39:00.000-08:002006-02-19T18:39:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140396057268269762006-02-19T16:40:00.000-08:002006-02-19T16:40:00.000-08:00All I know is what the police report said.. After ...All I know is what the police report said.. After Tex stabbed her and before Leslie began, Rosemary crawled two feet.. More than likely it was when Tex was getting Leslie that Rosemary was crawling... But I dunno that for a fact of course...<BR/><BR/>Just the thought of that is unbelievable... I can't imagine what the poor woman went thru...<BR/><BR/>I like you Savage, you're a nice and intelligent person.. So I think we're going to have to agree to disagree in this post lolHeavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140394912674273172006-02-19T16:21:00.000-08:002006-02-19T16:21:00.000-08:00Savage babe,We've debated the Susan topic to death...Savage babe,<BR/><BR/>We've debated the Susan topic to death.. I'm really not up for debating Leslie too..<BR/><BR/>But I will say, there is no proof what-so-ever that Rosemary was dead when Leslie stabbed her... According to her autopsy, after Tex stabbed her, she crawled two feet with a severed spine..<BR/><BR/>Even Leslie herself said at a parole hearing that she didn't know if she was dead or alive..<BR/><BR/>The coroner said one of the stab wounds Leslie inflicted, was fatal...<BR/><BR/>So, we'll never know if Rosemary still had a pulse or not.. But it really doesn't matter.. Leslie picked up a knife and plunged into another human body... Dead or alive, it doesn't matter. Her hands were more dirty than Susan's...<BR/><BR/>So, by your standards, we should just release the females in this case? You can preach until the end of time that Rosemary was dead, but you (nor anyone) knows that to be a fact...Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140382268618173092006-02-19T12:51:00.000-08:002006-02-19T12:51:00.000-08:00Leslie was found guilty of one count of conspiracy...Leslie was found guilty of one count of conspiracy to commit murder and two counts of murder in the first degree.<BR/><BR/>Whether or not you agree with that doesn't change it...<BR/>Apparently because she was there and participated, they found her guilty of Leno's death too.<BR/><BR/>Bobby was still only found guilty of one murder..Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140362583613706622006-02-19T07:23:00.000-08:002006-02-19T07:23:00.000-08:00You can't treat all crimes and the punishments exa...You can't treat all crimes and the punishments exactly the same. Each situation is different. There are so many different factors to consider when someone comes up for parole...<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140354446902242662006-02-19T05:07:00.000-08:002006-02-19T05:07:00.000-08:00Rich,You feel that Susan has paid her eye for an e...Rich,<BR/><BR/>You feel that Susan has paid her eye for an eye?<BR/><BR/>You honestly feel that way?<BR/><BR/>I'll admit that math isn't my strong suit, but I divided 37 years by 8, that comes out to 4.6 years served for each life she participated in taking... That includes Sharon's unborn child.<BR/><BR/>If you chose not to include him (even though his was a life) the it comes out to 5.2 years served for 7 deaths..<BR/><BR/>That's an eye for an eye?<BR/><BR/>Now look at Bobby.. 1 life, 37 years...<BR/><BR/>See the difference?<BR/><BR/>You mentioned a 3rd world justice system.. Compared to the system of other countries, our jails are like hotels.. In other countries, these people would have been put to death a long time ago. Other countries do not provide lifers with college degrees and transplant surgeries. Susan wouldn't have her hearing aid.. She wouldn't have been able to publish her book. She wouldn't have a decent cot to sleep in, or a TV to watch, or a website.. <BR/><BR/>While our system is screwed up, time served for multiple murders doesn't even come close to how bad the system is in other parts of the world...<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140352924564622902006-02-19T04:42:00.000-08:002006-02-19T04:42:00.000-08:00Savage,Before you misunderstand me again, let me c...Savage,<BR/><BR/>Before you misunderstand me again, let me clarify...<BR/><BR/>I know what Bobby did to Gary, I know as much of the story as there is to know... The word "harsh" was probably not the best choice cause now you're going to tell me that what Bobby did to Gary was harsh.. And I'll agree that it was..<BR/><BR/>What I meant to say is, if you feel Susan should be released after being found guilty of 7 murders, then Bobby should be released after being found guilty of 1...<BR/><BR/>I hope that makes better sense...<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140352253876138102006-02-19T04:30:00.000-08:002006-02-19T04:30:00.000-08:00Rich,I dunno if they're paying for the notoriety o...Rich,<BR/><BR/>I dunno if they're paying for the notoriety or the Manson connection or because of the brutality involved in the murders. But each time they're denied parole it's because they still pose a risk to society.. For whatever reasons...<BR/><BR/>The decision to free these people does not rest with any of us. We can have our opinions and it doesn't matter. The power to free them isn't ours.<BR/><BR/>The parole board must see something in them the you don't because they all keep getting denied. So instead of being angry at us for our opinions, have you written to the parole boards? Your words will have more influence with them...<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140351973345606452006-02-19T04:26:00.000-08:002006-02-19T04:26:00.000-08:00Savage,You obviously misunderstood my post, or may...Savage,<BR/><BR/>You obviously misunderstood my post, or maybe I'm not explaining myself very well.. This topic is getting very old...<BR/><BR/>In regards to Bobby, what he did was wrong, very wrong.. But almost 40 years for 1 murder is quite harsh. He didn't take part in the Tate/LaBianca crimes..<BR/><BR/>Most people that don't follow this case have never heard of Gary or Bobby. That crime didn't make national headlines...<BR/><BR/>I said I'm not opposed to his release, but if the parole boards decide to keep him in jail, I'm not opposed to that either. I never said I was "willing" to let him go... I'll just let the parole board decide what's best in that case...<BR/><BR/>This whole topic is becoming that dead horse... You and I each see things differently, it doesn't make either of us wrong.. Only different...<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140333395467667502006-02-18T23:16:00.000-08:002006-02-18T23:16:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140329793382088722006-02-18T22:16:00.000-08:002006-02-18T22:16:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.60skidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064453788078165526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140318388269435462006-02-18T19:06:00.000-08:002006-02-18T19:06:00.000-08:00Savage,I really hate bring religion into these typ...Savage,<BR/><BR/>I really hate bring religion into these types of discussions.. Everyone has his or her own beliefs and sometimes adding religion only brings out the worst...<BR/><BR/>Forgiving Susan isn't up to me, that's between her and God.. I'm sure God has forgiven her, murder is a forgivable sin...<BR/><BR/>But I don't have to feel sympathy for her present living situation. God gave her a brain and the ability to know right from wrong. I didn't tell her to break into houses and participate in killing the occupants. Susan decided to do that...<BR/><BR/>I don't know the Bible word for word, but I do believe there's something in there that says something about obeying the laws on earth as you would in Heaven.. And something else about an eye for an eye...<BR/><BR/>If Susan is truly a Christian who has turned her life over to Jesus, then her rewards will be in Heaven.. But for now, here in the mortal world, she has to pay for the crimes she's committed...<BR/> Just as other inmates who have turned to Jesus do.. Susan isn't alone..<BR/><BR/>Maybe God feels Susan can be of better use inside the prison helping others.. Maybe it was her destiny... I dunno...<BR/><BR/>If you want to feel sympathy and pity for Susan, that's your right, but it isn't fair of you to "expect" everyone else too also. We have a right to our thoughts, views and opinions, just like you. Simply because we don't all agree with you doesn't mean we're heartless animals. Just try to keep this thought in mind.. It wasn't us who put Susan where she is today, She did it to herself...<BR/><BR/>As for the justice system, I think we all know it's a joke in this country... But in the case of Susan, Tex, Manson, Leslie and Patricia, I think they're punishment is just.. That's my opinion...<BR/><BR/>I have no problem with Bobby being released. He didn't take part in the slaughter of 7 people.. 8 if you count an unborn child...Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-1140318262832008672006-02-18T19:04:00.000-08:002006-02-18T19:04:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.com