How to Do It........

I am sure that Scott Kosar is crying somewhere, wondering why his shit ass movie about the Family is not getting made.

Check out this actual interview with Snake.

If someone told this story correctly it would be the most brilliant film of the year.

Sadly, losers keep trying and failing.

Susana Lo says she is shooting in 2 weeks.

The Col Waits.

Who'd he Slaughter Again?

Charles Manson -- My Prison Valentine

2/15/2011 12:15 AM PST by TMZ Staff

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He's 76 years old, but infamous slaughterer of people Charles Manson is still quite the lady killer ... in fact, TMZ has learned Chuckie got an early Valentine's Day prison visit from a special female.



Officials at California State Prison, Corcoran tell us the visit occurred on Sunday morning -- the day before V-Day -- because no visitors are allowed during the week.

We're told Manson is "very choosy" about who he meets with -- and rarely accepts visits -- but for some reason, he gave the green light to spend time with a certain lucky lady.

Officials wouldn't reveal the woman's name -- but we're guessing she probably wasn't Jewish ...

The Manson Girls By Lo...a review Part the First

It took me a minute to get a copy of this script, since most people don't believe the film will even happen. The COL wanted to review it for you, so you can see a trend here of people not respecting the material enough, leading to a shitty script that never gets made for obvious reasons. But good God, mother in heaven, Holy Jesus Christ on a Fucking Rubber crutch who knew it was going to be this bad? I only read 20 pages and I need to rinse my eyes out with Bleach to eradicate some of what I read.

The first 20 pages evince a shitty structure. A complete lack of care (Roman's last name spelled as "Polansky", "it's" instead of "its", basic stuff). No visual flare whatsoever.

But forget all of that. The script MAKES STUFF up for no reason. Why in the name of hell, when you have enough material here that would work for a 5 year tv series, when you have to cut interesting stuff out, why the fuck MAKE STUFF UP? It is mind boggling. I don't mean making up a useless, pointless framing device. I am fine with that. I mean making up the back stories for the girls, all very well established by history. I mean even making up a major character. The Brad Wyman script was poorly written and dumb, and made Nancy Pitman out to be a hero. The Kosar script put bricks to sleep just by showing them a page. But this is actually OFFENSIVELY BAD.

We start out with the framing device, wherein Alice, a CNN reporter, wonders if Squeaky, now out of prison, is hanging with Sandy who she calls "Blue". She discusses this with a man named Cooper. Susanna Lo the author is a Lesbian, which is great, but the man hating kind, which is not so great. Cooper is described as a "mid-life-crisis man" whatever that means, a description she uses to describe other men in the film. This is an indication both of her lack of writing skills and her obsession with not liking men. Alice and Coop are Manson experts. Why? We don't know. They don't mention the only Official Blog. They do agree that the BUG is a lying filthy whore, and then chuckle knowingly. But then they decide they are going to do something no one has ever done- find SUMMER SUNSHINE, a socialite who hung with the Family then disappeared.

Um, what?

This is only 4 pages and already I don't care. Who are Alice and Cooper? They are obsessed with Manson, but why do I care? I have no emotional interest in them at all- they are robots. And they want to find a character that Lo made up out of her ass? Good for them. No wait, bad for them.

Now we get something so incredible I shake my head writing it. PAGES of quick vignettes introducing the girls. Really quick, really bad, like something out of the Super Friends but instead of cards reading "Aquaman" and "The Flash" we get "Lynette Squeaky Fromme" and "Linda Yana The Witch Kasabian."

The back story of each girl is interesting, in reality, as footnotes. Lo doesn't have to alter them for dramatic tension. What she does instead is alter them so they BEAR NO REALITY TO WHAT HAPPENED OR TO ACTUAL HUMAN EXPERIENCE. I really think this girl spends a lot of time living delusions.

-We start innocently enough as Papa Good picks up his three girls and the youngest stares at his new Cadillac. Don't know if this ever happened but we do get to meet Sandy.

- Next we are at a Catholic Church and we meet Mary, asleep during Mass (was she even a Catholic?) This scene could be true, but shows NOTHING about the character except that she sleeps and gets tired.

- Linda doesn't like Mom's new boyfriend, so she storms out in the street. Poor writing makes this hard to follow, but the scene adds nothing anyway.

- Squeaky smokes a joint in front of her father, who reams her for "only" getting an A- on a math test. She then puts the joint out on her arm while he watches. She then in private fires a staple gun into her arm. Twice. Maybe this stuff happened to Lo as a child. It didn't happen to Fromme.

- Leslie learns that her parents are getting divorced, eats a sandwich angrily, then goes to see her boyfriend who throws money at her for an abortion and drives away. Ummm, no, the mother MADE her have the abortion, fools.

- Gypsy goes to the Hollywood Mortuary (really?) for her mother's funeral then plays angry violin tunes at her blind dad. Okay....

-Katie allows some boy to fuck her under the bleachers, then cries because she is ugly and then chews on a crucifix (was she Catholic? I am asking because I don't know and don't care but there is a lot of references in this script to Catholic shit).

- This one takes the cake! Mr. Atkins fights with Mrs. Atkins and KILLS her. Yes KILLS HER. He did it, not cancer. And apparently he was very fat (no he wasn't). While he does this Sadie's brother Michael and three close friends all fuck young Sadie who doesn't care.

- Summer Sunshine, some rich bitch, walks on the Berkeley Campus with a BLACK MAN (omg!)

Summer meets Mary at the Library (she seems to be HEAD LIBRARIAN now, holy shit) Mary introduces Squeaky, who now in her second scene is still smoking a joint.

We see Sadie at the Kit Kat Club. The stage is "sticky with a lot of pussy." Yes she wrote that. Sadie onstage shoots up heroin. She convulses with an overdose. Sigh.

Sadie recovers in the hospital. Doesn't know what VD is.

Page 20 is really annoying because it shows the author doesn't even care about how her characters relate. Squeaky never called herself that. Mary never said "Hi I'm Mother Mary". People did call them that. But they never went around introducing themselves that way.

1/5th of the movie is over. There's no lead and no one I give a shit about. By now the first act should be over and it should be clear what the goal of the protagonist is.

I'll finish the review, but this thing is a mess. Full of Fabicated Garbage.

First some Clorox....

Sexy Sadie, Who is that Man? Oh....

Heather Matarazzo, actress, with her big and husky Girlfriend plays Sexy Sadie, she who would lay down with any man....
Sure, okay....

Follow The UnMade Films

Brad Wyman has a film called THE MANSON GIRLS. It was the world's shittiest script. It featured BRENDA/Nancy Pitman as the main character. They wanted to use Lindsay Lohan as Brenda. It has yet to be made after four years.

Scott Kosar has a film called THE FAMILY. It tells the whole story through the eyes of Dianne Lake. This script was so misguided and poorly written that blog members made me stop reviewing the script because there was no point. This script is being produced by the Gotham Group, a management company for Animators , who don't know how to produce movies. So this ain't happening. An Australian Cable TV actor is scheduled to play Manson. Kosar announced this film 8 years ago after his tepid remake of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

And NOW---

PARK CITY, UTAH January 26, 2011, 12:42 pm ET

A new movie directed by Susanna Lo will focus on the female followers of cult leader Charles Manson.

Production on "Manson Girls" will begin this spring, Lo announced Monday at the Sundance Film Festival. Lo wrote the screenplay for the film, which will examine the lives of eight young women who were followers of Manson.

The cast includes Taryn Manning, Heather Matarazzo, Tania Raymonde and Monica Keena.

Manson and three women followers were convicted in Los Angeles in 1971 of murder and conspiracy in the 1969 slayings of seven people, including actress Sharon Tate.

Lo said she became interested in the story when she realized she was living across the street from the house once occupied by Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary, who were killed the next night.

She decided the most interesting element of the story was what made the girls fall under Manson's spell.

"I wanted to tell their early story when they were teenagers to before the Tate-LaBianca murders. That was much more fascinating to me. Why and how. How could this tiny, strange man from prison and almost a derelict completely attract all of these fantastic girls?" Lo said.

"I thought that was a very innovative way to tell the story," said Raymonde, who will play Manson follower Leslie Van Houten. "I thought that it wasn't exploitative at all ... and it wasn't putting any focus on Manson because I think one of the most interesting aspects is you never see him in the film."

Keena was so intent on playing Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme that she studied her intensely before her audition and now knows "everything about her."

"It gives you a chance to have some sort of empathy toward them that you might not have had before," Keena said. "I'm not saying you should forgive them, but there's a method to their madness, let's say."

Songs from the 1960s will help drive the story. Guy Allison of the Doobie Brothers will compose the music for the film.

Manson is serving a life sentence in a California prison. He has a devoted fan base, which concerns Manning.

----------and the Col explains it all for you

1- Director has never had a film that anyone has ever seen, including her mom
2- No producer mentioned. No money source. No studio. Because there isn't any.
3- One fat lesbian actress (Heather) one actress who never had a career (Taryn) and one actress who used to be hot (Keena) with NO ONE
4- Lots of attention seeking at Sundance. "Look at me" means "I need funding."

The definitive movie will be made someday. These cheap imitations? Meh.

Kansas....?

40th Anniversary of Charles Manson conviction remembered in Wichita Falls

Continue reading on Examiner.com: 40th Anniversary of Charles Manson conviction remembered in Wichita Falls - Wichita Falls Law Enforcement




Forty years ago today prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi stood in a charged Los Angeles courtroom as the jury returned a verdict of guilty against Charles Manson for his involvement in a murder spree.

Bugliosi said in a Wichita Falls speech not long ago that the seven people would never have been murdered by the small band of people were it not for Manson.

Several Wichita Falls lawyers and other residents who heard Bugliosi's intriguing speech remembered the famed prosecutor referring to Manson as having so much influence over the actions of his followers that they were like robots he sent out to murder people.

Bugliosi also said during part of his Wichita Falls speech at the University Club that, "He would have killed as many people as he could have. That was his religion. His followers killed with relish."

The killing machine that Manson directed stabbed pregnant actress Sharon Tate to death along with four other people in the mansion she shared with director Roman Polanski.

The very next day Manson ordered his "band of robots" to murder affluent businessman Leno LaBianca and his wife Rosemary in their Los Angeles home.

Bugliosi also said that the Manson murders would never have occurred if the California prison system had followed Manson's request. When Charles Manson was in prison on other charges before the murders, he asked California officials to keep him locked up in prison. His request was denied, and he was released against his will.

Most Wichita Falls attorneys agree with Bugliosi that Manson will probably never be released from prison again.

Only last week Manson disciple Patricia Krenwinkle went before the parole board and requested her freedom at age 63.

The California parole board denied her request saying the crime was too serious.

Another disciple Susan Atkins died from cancer in prison after the parole board denied her request for mercy.

Evidence showed Susan Atkins stabbed Sharon Tate to death while the helpless actress begged for mercy.

"She asked me to spare her," Atkins said. "I told her I didn't have any mercy for her."

The parole board returned the favor by denying Atkins mercy.

Leslie Van Houten was involved with stabbing victim Rosemary LaBianca 16 times the next night. The former homecoming queen has been denied parole 19 times.

Manson was convicted on January 25, 1971.


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Peace in The Waking World

Dear Friends and Loved Ones,

Our earlier message, in which we provided the address for the California parole board and the name of its chairman, was intended for those among you who might be inclined to write a letter protesting the manner in which my parole hearing last month was conducted. I would not presume to suggest that you write such a letter. We provided the information simply by way of opening an avenue for expressing directly to the chief of parole hearings the disappointment, frustration, critical opinions, indignation, dismay, etc., regarding the hearing that many of you have expressed in writing to me.

Some of you have written to ask for guidance in writing a letter to the parole board. To that I would say, simply, write whatever is on your heart to say . . . or not, as the case may be. Nothing you say to that agency in a letter can do me harm, so, if you write one, be fearless.

I can certainly relate to the frustration and dismay many of you have expressed. To be confronted, after all these years, by such obstinate refusal to examine with honesty and integrity the evidence of my 41 years prison history, and the progression to the mature understanding of my responsibility that it represents, makes the hearing I recently experienced almost completely incomprehensible. The level of prejudice was beyond the pale. That the presiding commissioner would prevent me (twice, in two consecutive hearings) from making a closing statement that would demonstrate my having come to terms with the full magnitude of my responsibility to the man whose life I took and everyone affected by my actions, 41 years ago, makes a mockery of the very definition of a parole hearing.

A transcript of the hearing would be helpful in conveying to you a better sense of what happened. Unfortunately, the hearing record won’t be made available until after the decision in the hearing becomes final. By that time the outside chance that letters might have some influence on the final decision will have passed. The best I can offer is my assurance that what I have related to you is accurate.

There were no holes in the presentation that was prepared for the hearing. This included a comprehensive history of educational, vocational, and insight development programs I’ve availed myself of, all of the work that I’ve done over the years, as well as personal creative endeavors, and long-term involvement in youth outreach. The numerous letters of support from family, friends, citizens of the world community, and corrections officials, included solid employment offers and affirmed residences in two states. There were no new misconducts, and in fact a disciplinary report that had been an issue in the previous hearing had since been expunged from my record in the interest of justice. Since the previous hearing I had even added a couple of new college courses to my resume.

All of this was lost on the presiding commissioner and his assistant. They were obviously more interested in using my hearing to take a remote swipe at Manson, with references to crimes I was in no way involved in, and could not have been involved in, than in giving me a fair hearing on the merits of my own case history.

So, yes, there are some significant reasons for all of us to feel some frustration and dismay at this juncture.

Don’t hesitate to put you views and feelings into writing, if you are inclined to do so. Here, again, is the address:

CDCR – Board of Parole Hearings
ATTN: Robert Doyle, Chairman
P.O. Box 4036
Sacramento, CA 95812-4036

The problem with California’s parole board, it seems to me, is that over the past couple of decades it has increasingly become insulated in the state’s political morass. It won’t hurt the people involved in that agency to be reminded by private citizens – including you citizens in other countries – of the principles they were appointed to uphold.

I was a bit surprised by the resounding response to the reservations I had expressed in my earlier message, in regards to writing my book. Many of you wrote words of encouragement, for which I am grateful. Be assured that I am empowered with fresh resolve to devote my energies to whittling away until the book has fully taken shape, without getting hung up in where the chips may fall. There is a story that must be told and (as more than one of you said) there isn’t anyone else who can do it. Doing what is the right thing to do with dedication to the highest principle naturally means letting go of concerns about perceptions or possible outcomes. Damn the torpedoes!

Peace in the waking world, peace in dreams, peace in the deepest level of being.

Bobby

Making Up Lies for Attention

A Letter From Barbara Hoyt
copyright 2000 by
Barbara Hoyt

Dear Board of Prison Terms:

My name is Barbara Hoyt. I was a prosecution witness in the many Manson trials, including the Shorty Shea murder trials. I testified against Bruce Davis, Steve Grogan, and Charles Manson.

I have now 30 years later watched the parole hearings for Bruce Davis and read the transcripts for Steve Grogan, provided to me by Bill Nelson. Both of them have grossly misrepresented the facts to you. About a week or two after the Aug. 16, 69 sheriff’s raid at Sphan's ranch, in the afternoon, I was sitting on a rock in the parking area in front of the boardwalk. Near me were Brenda, Gypsy, and Squeeky. One of them said, as Shorty walked towards George Sphan's house, "there goes Shorty snooping around again" and another one answered her " yea well, he'll be taken care of."

One night not long after, I went to go to sleep in one of the trailers at the back of the ranch overlooking the creek bed below. At about 10 o’clock at night, just as I laid my head on the pillow, I heard a long, loud, blood curdling scream, which came from about 50-75 feet away from me from up stream. Then it was quiet for a minute or so, and then the screams came again, and again, again, again,....They seemed to go on forever.

I recognized the screams of Shorty's voice. I can still hear those screams today, exactly as I heard them that night. I have absolutely no doubt that Shorty was being murdered at that time.

Early the next morning, I asked Gypsy, who was in the Rock City Cafe at the ranch house end of the board walk if she had heard Shorty screaming last night, and she told me very sternly that Shorty had gone to San Francisco. Later that morning Charlie was bragging to Danny DeCarlo about how "Shorty committing suicide with a little help from us." Charlie went on to say " I stabbed him and Shorty asked, "Why Charlie? Why?" and I told him this is why! And I stabbed him again, that he was real hard to kill when we brought him to NOW. That we all kept stabbing him until Clem cut his head off!. And we cut him up into 9 pieces and buried him around the ranch."

He asked Danny "if lye or lime would get rid of the body." I was only a couple of feet away from Danny at the time and Charlie knew that I was there.

I didn't see the murder even thought I did try to look out that window and obviously I don't know exactly how they killed Shorty but his death must have been very painful to make him scream as he did. But I do know that Shorty was killed at about 10 o’clock at night, under a full moon, and not in the afternoon as the killers are telling you. I also know that the murder occurred about 50+ feet up stream from the ranch and not the mile or so down Santa Susanna Pass road again as the killers are telling you.

Bruce has told you that he was afraid of the family, and that he was afraid of Tex. This is a blatant lie, because Bruce was older and vying for a leadership role in the family, or at least a second in command to Charlie.

He was the only other male to have worn Charlie’s embroidered vest. He lectured like Charlie when Charlie was not there. Other members in the family killed more people for Charlie but knowing that the family was committing murders, Bruce wanted to lead them.

I am well aware that the body of Shorty Shea was recovered intact and was not dismembered as Charlie had claimed. And that his body was located about where they claimed to have killed him. They may have buried him there but it is not where he was killed.

I am against Bruce Davis getting a parole date for 3 reasons:

1. Because he wanted to be a family leader even though he knew the family was committing murder {i.e. Gary Hinman} and not just to follow Charlie.
2. He is lying even to this day about the time and place of the murder.
3. I believe he is lying about fearing Tex, people in the family were more afraid of Bruce than Tex.

I find it curious that even as he professes to be a Christian today that he is still lying to you.

Thank you for considering my letter and I request my address not be revealed to the inmate or to his attorney (who would give him that information) Bruce M. Davis parole Hearing 2-2-2000 at CMC.

Respectfully yours,

Barbara Hoyt

Talking Turkey

Look, it's obvious, they AIN'T GETTING OUT ever. The Bug wrote in the back of the novel that the girls would get out in 25 years. But even with the BUG approving of Susan's release, hopping out the door on one leg like some sort of refugee from Watership Down, it didn't happen. And you know why, really? Because nobody CARES anymore. Does that sound oxymoronic? It actually isn't. Follow the bouncing Colonel.

The Family started 44 fucking years ago. The murders were 41 years ago, the trials were 40 years ago. That's 179 in Panda Years. I mean it was forever ago. These killers were YOUNG ass back there and they are living forever. But it was also a different world. If you got in your DeLorean and went back there you wouldn't last a day. Might as well go back to 1066. Kids today don't remember Reagan. Palin shows up and you compare her to McCarthy and people are like "ummm what?" It's like the guy who was in the Tower of London dungeon for decades (I'm making this up but you'll follow it.) because the King put him there for jaywalking. It's like three Kings later, no one knows why he's there, but they ain't gonna be the ones to let him out just in case THEY catch shit. They don't CARE enough to even deal with it.

According to the law they all should be out. No, idiot about to yell at me, that doesn't mean they belong out or I want them out. The law says they are entitled to Parole. The brilliant Catch 22 that has sprung up is "You want out, which means you aren't sorry so we won't let you out. Only by agreeing to stay here to we believe you are sorry." Like in Life of Brian - "I'm not the Messiah...only the true Messiah denies his divinity." They can't win. One does wonder why they show up.

But if Sadie didn't get out, what chance do the rest of them have? Katie killed more people and though she didn't dance in a pregnant woman's blood volume doesn't get you a discount. Leslie had a meeting with JimNY which is enough to keep her locked up for life, with daily horsewhippings. Charlie's happy being the bad man. Bobby would like to be out but that whole story is so confused who knows. Bruce is the Zodiac Killer and probably killed John Lennon psychically....

Sorry I came undone. They are never getting out NOT because of who they killed but because whoever lets them out lets out a Mansonite. And this will never do. So aside from some special face time in which Debra can weep and rewrite history, the hearings are a parade.

What I would LOVE is for one of them to say next time, "You are right I don't deserve to be out, I skip the hearing" and then for their lawyer to say- "Aha, they are sorry, let them out." But that would be too easy....

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How do you become a member and get to post comments here? Ask.

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One commenter recently asked me what I meant by the BUG perjury. That person should go read the rest of the blog going back years now.

1- The BUG didn't need to present a motive to win the case. He had the actual killers cold with real evidence. He didn't have Charlie because, well he didn't kill anybody. So he concocted a motive and sold it to the jury. Any person with a brain can see that today. It's obvious. And Aaron Stovitz told me himself.
2- The BUG testified under oath that he didn't bring the LA TIMES with the Nixon headline into the courtroom. He did.
3- The BUG wrote a book which is self-serving and full of clear lies.

He also stalked his milkman for allegedly fucking his wife and beat up his mistress.

Fuck the Bug.

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I will review the MANSON NOW book. Suffice it to say it has nothing new to add.

Not Sure About the Nephew Weeping about the Uncle He Never met, but anyway....

Charlie Manson follower Krenwinkel denied parole

By LINDA DEUTSCH
AP Special Correspondent

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/20/v-print/2024644/manson-follower-faces-parole-hearing.html#ixzz1BdlLnWrS

In a decision suggesting that the brutal Sharon Tate murders are unforgivable, a parole board panel refused to consider releasing Patricia Krenwinkel, who told the board she killed for the love of Charles Manson.

The two-member panel made clear Thursday that it was the horror of the killings, one of the most notorious of the 20th century, that led them to reject the bid for parole in spite of Krenwinkel's efforts to change her life.

They said that the murders of seven people in an extremely atrocious manner had impacted the entire world as evidenced by letters which came in from around the globe urging that she be kept behind bars.

"These crimes remain relevant," said parole commissioner Susan Melanson. "The public is in fear."

Melanson and Deputy Commissioner Steven Hernandez issued their decision after a four-hour hearing and more than an hour of deliberations at which Krenwinkel wept, apologized for her murderous deeds and said she was ashamed of her actions.

Members of victims' families also cried and recalled their suffering after the murders and called for her to be kept behind bars. Melanson said the notoriety of the crimes and their viciousness weighed heavily in the decision.

"This is a crime children grow up hearing about," she said, and noted that Krenwinkel failed to understand the worldwide impact.

"The panel concludes that she is not suitable for parole and would present an unreasonable danger if released," she said. She referred to seven victims who were brutally murdered over two nights in a crime which she said could be classified as a hate crime because of overtones of wanting to foment a race war.

"This was a depraved act by a group of individuals who find it difficult to explain their actions," she said.

The panel had the option to deny parole for up to 15 years. Melanson said they felt that was unnecessary and commended Krenwinkle for making progress in her life behind bars, participating in self-help programs and other positive contributions.

"While we want to commend you for the positive, you are unsuitable for parole and require an additional seven years of incarceration," she said.

Krenwinkel was told she could request a parole hearing earlier if her situation changes.

Krenwinkel, who has been imprisoned longer than any other woman in California, told the parole board earlier Thursday that she threw away everything good in herself and became a "monster" after she met Manson.

In reference to Krenwinkel's claim that she was seeking approval from Manson when she killed, Melanson said "The panel finds it hard to believe a person can participate in this level of crimes and can't identify anything but 'I wanted him to love me.'"

Krenwinkel, one of Manson's two surviving female followers, has maintained a clean prison record in her four decades behind bars, but her chances for release appeared slim following parole rejections in other Manson cases.

During her hearing, the 63-year-old was soft-spoken and contrite in response to board members' questions, describing the downward spiral of her life after she met Manson.

"Everything that was good and decent in me I threw away," she said.

It was her father, she said, who helped her realize during his visits to her in prison, "what had happened, and the monster I became."

She said she tells those she counsels in prison, "I am someone you would never have wanted to be, and here are the steps you can take to never go to the dark places I have been."

Krenwinkel's claim that she is rehabilitated was met by anger and opposition from Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Patrick Sequeira and families of the victims, who argued for Krenwinkel's continued incarceration.

"If she truly had remorse, she wouldn't come to these parole hearings, and would say, 'I accept the punishment,'" Sequeira said.

Debra Tate, sister of Sharon Tate, then tearfully recounted the pain her family endured from the killings. She denounced Krenwinkel for never having written a letter of apology to the families.

"I want to believe the human condition is capable of change," Tate said. "I believe in the possibility of reform. But I know what I am looking at, and I don't see it here."

She told the board through tears that, "Whatever decision you make I will live with. But every time I sit in this chair I have to think, what will happen if they come out? What will society do?"

Anthony Di Maria, the nephew of Jay Sebring, who was killed along with Tate, cried throughout his words to the board, and said the parole hearings "send us back to hell, year after year."

"I wish I had forgiveness to give," Di Maria said.

Krenwinkel was convicted along with Manson and two other female followers in seven 1969 murders, considered among the most notorious crimes of the 20th century.

None of those convicted has ever been paroled and one of them, Susan Atkins, died in prison last year after being denied compassionate release when she was terminally ill with cancer.

Leslie Van Houten, 61, the youngest of the women convicted, was long thought to be the most likely to win eventual release. But she was denied a parole date last summer by officials who said she had not gained sufficient insight into her crimes.

Parole boards have repeatedly cited the callousness, viciousness and calculation of the murders committed by members of the Manson Family.

Krenwinkel admitted during her trial that she chased down and stabbed heiress Abigail Folger at the Tate home on Aug. 9, 1969, and participated in the stabbing deaths of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca the following night. Both homes were defaced with bloody scrawlings. She was convicted along with Manson, Van Houten and Atkins. Another defendant, Charles "Tex" Watson was convicted in a separate trial.

All were sentenced to death but their sentences were commuted to life when the U.S. Supreme Court briefly outlawed the death penalty in 1972.

In her 40 years at the California Institution for Women, Krenwinkel has earned a bachelor's degree and participated in numerous self help programs as well as teaching illiterate prisoners how to read. In recent years, she has been involved in a program to train service dogs for the disabled.

She said she has made arrangements for the possibility that she could be released, and would change her name and leave the state.

Krenwinkel's lawyer, Keith Wattley, argued at the hearing that the law says if someone is serving life with the possibility of parole, they must be given parole unless they are deemed to be currently dangerous, which he said she is not.

Asked to make her own final case to the board, Krenwinkel wept profusely, wiping her eyes with a tissue, and said, "I'm just haunted each and every day by the unending suffering of the victims, the enormity and degree of suffering I've caused."

Her voice rising in the silent room, she nearly shouted, "I'm so ashamed of my actions. The victims had so much life left to live."

Cult leader Manson, now 75, refused to appear at his most recent parole hearings where he was denied a release date. His multiple disciplinary violations and refusals to participate in rehabilitation activities make it likely that he will never be released.

At times he has said that he does not want his freedom and considers prison his home.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/20/v-print/2024644/manson-follower-faces-parole-hearing.html#ixzz1BdkyR0JE

Linda Deutsch, Master of the Obvious

Charles Manson follower Patricia Krenwinkel has slim chance at parole

Linda Deutsch

CORONA, Calif. - A follower of Charles Manson who has been imprisoned longer than any other woman in California is facing a parole hearing on her conviction in the Sharon Tate killings.

Grey-haired Patricia Krenwinkel, one of Manson's two surviving female followers, has maintained a clean prison record in her four decades behind bars, but her chances for release appear slim following the parole officials' rejections in other Manson cases.

Krenwinkel, 63, was convicted along with Manson and two other female followers in seven 1969 murders, considered among the most notorious crimes of the 20th Century.

None of those convicted has ever been paroled and one of them, Susan Atkins, died in prison last year after being denied compassionate

In this photo taken Tuesday Jan. 18, 2011, released by the California Institution for Women showing Patricia Krenwinkel, one of two surviving women followers of Charles Manson involved in the Sharon Tate killings. Krenwinkel, faces a parole hearing Thursday Jan. 20,2011. After four decades behind bars, she is the longest incarcerated woman in the California prison system. (AP Photo/California Institution for Women)

release when she was terminally ill with cancer.

Leslie Van Houten, 61, the youngest of the women convicted, was long thought to be the most likely to win eventual release. But she was denied a parole date last summer by officials who said she had not gained sufficient insight into her crimes.

Parole boards have repeatedly cited the callousness, viciousness and calculation of the seven murders committed by members of the Manson Family.

Krenwinkel admitted during her trial that she chased down and stabbed heiress Abigail Folger at the Tate home on Aug. 9, 1969 and participated in the stabbing deaths of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca the following night. Both homes were defaced with bloody scrawlings. She was convicted along with Manson, Van Houten and Atkins. Another defendant, Charles "Tex" Watson was convicted in a separate trial.

All were sentenced to death but their sentences were commuted to life when the U.S. Supreme Court briefly outlawed the death penalty in 1972.

In her 40 years at the California Institution for Women, Krenwinkel has earned a bachelor's degree and participated in numerous self help programs as well as teaching illiterate prisoners how to read. In recent years, she has been involved in a program to train service dogs for the disabled.

She has had a discipline-free record in prison. But so have a number of other Manson followers who have been refused parole. Last year, a number of them came before parole panels but were turned away.

Manson follower Bruce Davis was able to win a parole date only to have it revoked by former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger who said that his release would be a danger to society. The 67-year-old Davis was convicted of the 1969 murder of musician Gary Hinman but had no involvement in the Tate-LaBianca killings.

Robert Beausoleil, 63, also convicted in the Hinman murder, was denied parole last year and told to come back to the board in five years.

Cult leader Manson, 75, refused to appear at his most recent parole hearings where he was denied a release date. His multiple disciplinary violations and refusals to participate in rehabilitation activities make it likely that he will never be released. At times he has said that he does not want his freedom and considers prison his home.

Happy New Fear!

Because Fear Makes us More Aware, LOL.

I am trying to figure out why posts aren't posting when they should. But anyway....

People keep writing me about the evilliz blog. She's a bit loony but a nice enough loon. She seems focused on finding pictures of TLB Players since the case times...right up to modern times. That amount of work makes the Col's nut sack shrivel up in tears. I like the pictures of TJ, don't get me wrong. And the pictures of Ruth Ann, should they be real, are fascinating to look at. But the point of this, the ONLY Official TLB Blog, is to try to get to he truth of the crimes. A truth that has been lost thanks to the lies and perjury of Vinnie T. BUGliosi, the great lover of Latin music. If photos of modern day people are helpful, I will surely run them here. Steve Grogan, aka Adam Gabriel definitely knows more than he told. He still has yet to be charged for the LaBianca killings. He has a conviction for exposing himself to children. He is seen in the Hendrickson documentary endangering some kids. He disappears for years. Fine. When it comes out that he is in a band that plays children's parties, that IS news and relevant and we will discuss it here.

This has nothing to do with psycho Monkeyboy or two bit lawyers without actual offices. Ruth Ann likely could add many details to the story of the Family; she doesn't know shit about the murders. She's lived her life as far as I can tell well. If Liz or anyone wants to out her, I neither approve nor disapprove. I'm just not gonna do it. Nancy Pitman the same. As far as I know she didn't kill anyone and isn't still on the run. She likely did go back the first night to the Tate House, but this isn't a crime. She got lucky with a LOT of shit, especially the Stockton murders, but she paid her time. If Evil Liz wants to obsess about her, hey, I don't even know who Liz IS, not my problem. Also not my interest.

Cat's site is now the gold standard since Bret died. Her site is The Times of London. We're the New York Times. Liz is People magazine. All three have their place in the world.

The Triumphant (okay, not) Return of MONKEYBOY

December 24, 2010


Col,

I want to make sure that you're fully aware of what some of your blog members have been up in regards to the recent picture postings of Ruth Ann Moorehouse.

My understanding is that these pictures of Ruth Ann may have been acquired from screen caps of a wedding video of one of her sons. First of all, the very fact that these individuals, who all seem to be associated with YOU felt the need to stalk her sons accounts to acquire these images of Ruth Ann is just creepy unto itself. Secondly, I know for a fact that Ruth Ann did not give her permission for these photographs to be put up on display anywhere for people to just come in and copy them.

There's a right to privacy issue here that involves a woman who is living a "Normal" life and who is working and who is making her own living. This unwanted exposee that Elizabeth Russell aka "Evil Liz" from Connecticut is doing is a pure vanity play on her part that could do irreperable damage to Ruth Ann's life as well as the lives of her family.

We already went through this argument once before with Steve Grogan and we know that Steve lost his job as a result of someone else's overzealousness. I DON'T want to see that happen to Ruth Ann.

Why am i contacting you? Simple, because these people who are stirring things up are members of your blog. All of the problems in cyberspace that arise, in regards to this case, all seem to ripple back to your blog. Then again, being the "Head of the Snake", that comes as no surprise to me.

What i'd like to ask you to do is to stop Evil Liz from having any additional private wanking sessions to Ruth Ann's photographs and for Liz to re-open her blog to the public so that we know that she is complying with this request.

As i'm sure you may already know, I put up a video of Joshua Zelinsky on my page. We all know the story behind Joshua, as well as many others, whose names, addresses and phone numbers are in my possession. I hold YOU responsible for what happens to Ruth Ann and I want to make sure that you clearly understand where this is going.

If you do not talk some sense into Elizabeth Russell of Bristol / New Britain CT, then i will personally contact Joshua Zelinsky and we'll get this party started. I might even contact Philip Gronowski and wish him a Merry Christmas as well.

Do yourself a big favor - talk to Evil Liz and get her to stop this shit before things get out of hand.

Respectfully,

Jim
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Fucking Monkey actually wrote that on Xmas Eve- the sad sack of shit
My reply-

I do not know who Josh or phil are. I do know who you are. Very well indeed

1. I have nothing to do with the Liz blog
2 You are a stupid, moronic asshole who nobody likes. You should go eat a bag of shit and reflect upon that.

Repeat

Eat a bag 0f shit and pull yourself together.

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Hey Bigmouth,

Nobody likes me???? Boo Fucking Hoo. As if i really give a damn about any of you blog homo's.

You're all a bunch of tabloid junkies who drool over a case that nobody really gives a shit about anymore.

Even your boy "Bobby" got old on you, but i'll bet he still takes it in the ass and will continue to do so for the next "5" years.

The people who are on your blog are the scum of the earth. A bunch of self righteous little shits who jack off to STOLEN pictures because that's as close to the case, or anything new in this case, that they'll ever get to.

Your DYING blog is proof of that. It's nothing more than a waste of time that will yield you NOTHING.

I know YOU all too well also. You're a cocksucker, LITERALLY, but that comes as no surprise to me.

A few people that i actually thought were "Decent", turned out to be douchebags, but then most of the people who OBSESS over this case pretty much are just that.

Go read some books and see if you'll learn anything NEW - Which you WON'T.

NONE of the locked up MANSONITES will ever Get out so you will learn NOTHING.

It's over for you and your blog.

You're down to creepy crawling facebook pages for photographs - What a fucking bunch of LOSERS you people are. Really. That's just so pathectic.

Eat Shit and Die - Slowly.

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Monkeyboy- you are a homophobe apparently, delusion, fat, stupid and ugly. Really, take an overdose of something nasty and save some oxygen.

Energy Sapping

December 16,2010


Sisters and brothers, family, loved ones, friends . . .

The parole hearing occurred last Monday (Dec 13), as scheduled. It was an energy sapping experience. In the several days since then I have put my focus on restoring my energy levels and marshalling my thoughts for what I would say to you now. Keeping all of you in suspense was not my intent. I just needed to catch my breath, so to speak.

On the face of it the hearing did not go well at all. The best place to begin describing what happened is with a brief recap of my last hearing two years ago, because what happened this week was a carryover from that hearing.

The presiding parole board commissioner in the 2008 hearing was an unwavering adherent to the most grotesque pop culture rendition of the Manson mythology, who avowed to being “personally offended” by some of the rhetoric Manson has been described as espousing back in the sixties. I dislike making judgments of other people every bit as much as I dislike having judgments, misjudgments or prejudgments, applied to me. So I will confine this account to a characterization: Imagine a man with his fingers in his ears, blinders on his eyes, and his mouth moving unceasingly with fatuous refusal to brook any point of view but his own. There is just no breaking through such a density of egoism. To have one’s personal situation be at the mercy of that sort of willful ignorance is no easy thing to accept.

The 2008 hearing resulted in a five-year denial of parole. The hearing commissioner was determined to apply a new law that tripled the parole denial periods allowed under California law beyond what they had been, even though the new law had not yet been enacted. A few months later I learned that I had become the beneficiary of a class action lawsuit that I didn’t even know had been filed, challenging the premature application of the new law. The five-year denial in my 2008 hearing was modified to a two-year denial.

Attorney Steven Moretz volunteered, on a friendship basis, to represent me in the 2010 hearing. He is a good man, and a competent lawyer, and I was moved to accept his offer.

I was encouraged to make an all-out effort in preparation for this hearing. Steve spent uncounted hours researching the records and meticulously preparing a presentation for the hearing that included an accounting of all of my skills, accomplishments, community resources and support. Numerous letters (close to fifty) were received from my relations, friends, media industry professionals, and Oregon DOC administrators who have worked with me for many years – collectively making a powerful statement – and these were compiled into an impressive packet of supporting exhibits. I wrote myself notes for points that I wanted to raise during the hearing, and prepared a closing statement expressing my acceptance of responsibility for the choices I made and the actions I committed that exacted such a heavy price.

Last Monday morning my hearing was delayed about 40 minutes because the commissioner who had been scheduled to conduct the hearing – a fair man, reputedly – was replaced, literally at the last minute, by the same commissioner who had chaired the 2008 hearing. Again the fingers in the ears, the blinders the fatuous mouthings of unctuous gibberish. Frequently during the hearing, relevant remarks I attempted to offer were suppressed. Again, as in the 2008 hearing, I was not permitted to make the closing statement I had prepared. And at the end, with dogmatic references to crimes I was not and could not have been in any way involved in, the commissioner re-invoked that once-thwarted five year denial.

Although I made a commitment to put my best effort forward for this hearing, I did so without expectations, without hope, without fear. Consequently, my spirit is not crushed by the outcome. I am experiencing some disappointment, however. For many years I have held the belief that at some point the determination of circumstances would come into an arena where saner, more reasonable minds would prevail. At this point I’m wondering if holding onto such a belief is naïve.

My lawyer went at his preparations for the hearing, and the hearing itself, with an eye to taking the matter on appeal to the courts in the event I was not granted parole this time. I’m not an attorney, but it seems to me that the violations of due process in this hearing were so egregious that the record will easily support an effective writ. Taking something like this into court and following through carries significant expense, however, beyond what I can manage with the resources I currently have available to me. If anyone has any ideas about how I can earn some cash to pursue this relief, I’m open to suggestions.

My partner Barbara has told me many times, for years and years, that she believes I will not see the outside of a prison until I finish writing my book, and publish it, as a way of distinguishing myself from the popular mythology relating to that guy whose name we don’t need to mention again. This presents a problem for me on multiple levels. As much as I would love to do the one thing that would likely please my beloved Barbara the most, the notion of subordinating the creative process to the purpose of manipulating opinion to make conditions more favorable for my release on parole rubs my fur the wrong way. Right now, though, I’m thinking that I need to stop struggling to get clear on my motives to write my book, and just write the damn thing.

So this is how things stand at present. Like all things in this world, appearances are subject to change without notice.

I am grateful beyond words for the rich outpouring of love and support, positive energy and good thoughts that came my way in recent months. Truly, this is the real hearing for me, all the endorsement I could ever need. Please don’t feel badly about the outcome of the hearing. The fat lady ain’t sung yet. And anyway, I am not my body, and my freedom is not subject to the conditions that my body must undergo. This is true for all of us.

With peace and best wishes for the holidays.

Bobby

Bobby Fucked Again

Charles Manson follower Bobby Beausoleil denied parole again in killing of musician Gary Hinman. Should 'family' members ever be freed?

Once again, the state Board of Parole has rejected efforts by a Charles Manson follower to be released from prison.

The latest move came Monday and involved Bobby Beausoleil, 63. According to the Associated Press: "He was arrested for the murder of musician Gary Hinman in August 1969. Beausoleil was convicted of Hinman's murder in 1970 and sentenced to death. The sentence was commuted to life when the California Supreme Court found the death penalty unconstitutional in 1972."

The issue of whether Manson family members should ever be released from prison came up in 2008 when Susan Atkins, who was terminally ill, asked for her freedom. Officials rejected her bid, and she died in prison.

At the time, some people said the Manson murders were so horrific that the perpetrators should never be released. Do you agree? Share your views.

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A state parole board panel denied parole Monday for former Charles Manson follower Robert Beausoleil, who was among those convicted of a musician's 1969 stabbing death.

A two-member panel from the California Board of Parole Hearings issued a five-year denial, who was last denied parole in December 2008, according to Deputy District Attorney Patrick Sequeira.

Beausoleil was initially sentenced to death for the July 26, 1969, slaying of Gary Hinman in his Topanga Canyon home. But his sentence -- along with those of Manson and a number of his followers -- was later commuted to life in prison following a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on new requirements for capital cases.

Manson and many of his other former followers, who have repeatedly been denied parole, remain behind bars.

The Dick Van Dyke Show (simply hilarious)

CBS) California prison officials want to stop prison inmates like convicted murderer Charles Manson from reaching out and touching people with smuggled cell phones.

Prison guards confiscated the flip phone for the man behind one of the most infamous killing sprees in U.S. history after he placed calls and sent text messages to people in California, Florida, New Jersey and British Columbia, Canada, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday.

"It's troubling that he had a cell phone since he's a person who got other people to murder on his behalf," a spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections told the Times.

The spokeswoman, Terry Thornton, also told the Times she didn't know if Manson ordered anyone during a call to commit a crime.

Authorities have urged the Federal Communications Commission to grant them authority to jam cell phone signals at prisons, but telecommunications lobbyists have told the agency that jamming would also block non-inmates near prisons from making calls.

Officials told the Times that prison inmates use the phones to run drug rings, intimidate witnesses and plan escapes yet being in possession of a cell phone isn't a crime in the Golden State.

President Obama signed into law during the summer a bill making smuggling cell phones into federal prisons a crime, but that law doesn't apply to state prisons, the Times reported. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill in September that would have fined people providing cell phones to prisoners $5,000, the Times reported.

In California prisons, authorities told the Times the number of cell phones confiscated has been on the rise from 1,400 in 2007, when confiscations were first recorded, to 8,675 thus far in 2010.

ITEMS!

Item- Does anyone want me to keep tearing apart that shitty screenplay by Scott Kosar? I haven't gotten very many comments about it so maybe no one gives a shit. It isn't like the film will ever come out.

Item- Did you get your Bobby Parole Letters in yet? Deadline is in a few days.

Item- Brenda is not happy with evil liz. Personally, my worldview is that Cats is the queen whose feet I am not worthy of touching. Liz hates Cats. Therefore Liz is insane. But I am not sure why she pissed off Brenda. Does anyone CARE what she is doing these days? I don't. I just want to know why TLB happened. I suspect Brenda has some ideas, but she isn't the link to the solution. Good luck Liz, be careful opening the door.

Item- The new Charlie book is delayed a few weeks. Somehow I don't think I'll learn much new.

Item- Anyone hear anything about a Charlie film that some kids in Wales were gonna shoot? Talk about authenticity!

Later !

Godspeed Bummer Bob

Dear Family and Friends,

A brief update . . .

My parole hearing is rapidly approaching. In my earlier email notice about the hearing I failed to actually mention when it would occur, and a few of you have expressed concern that the window of opportunity to write a letter for the hearing may already have closed. Sorry for the oversight!

There is still time to get a letter in, if you are so inclined, and if you have not done so already, but not much. The hearing is scheduled for Monday morning December 13th. For a letter to be submitted to the hearing panel within the time constraints it will need to be received by my attorney no later than November 23rd. Here is the address again, for convenience.

Law Offices of Steven E. Moretz
PO Box 455
Victorville, CA 92393-0455

To those of you who have already sent letters, my heartfelt gratitude. If you have not heard from me personally by now, you will soon.

I'm feeling strong. Regardless of what the outcome of the hearing turns out to be, my integrity will not be shaken. I am putting my best effort forward, and that's what counts.

With peace in my heart, and peace to you,

Bobby

The Dynamic Says It All

If you want my opinion, Paul Fitzgerald was a good lawyer who believed the Family bullshit a little too much.
If we look at this photo we see what I mean. Is Nancy in charge? What is she at this point, 25 and she and Sandy look like they own the fucking joint. WHY is Paul even considering dealing with these two stoned hotties?

FOUR people are on trial for their lives. WHO CARES what their friends have to say?

Uggh.

Script Review- THE FAMILY- Part 4

And we're back....
Page 31 more voiceover and we meet Tex
and ON PAGE 32 via a newsreel we meet Sharon and Roman.

Half an hour in but the fucking buttlick director gives interviews saying he wants us to meet the victims and get to know them! After one minute of NEWSREEL we go to Wilson's house.

Page 34 has Charlie babbling about black people to Tex.
Gregg gets introduced and then they record an album. (More voiceover!)

Then off to Cielo where they play the record and he doesn't groove.
Snake says Charlie thinks they could be like the Partridge Family EXCEPT THEY DON'T EXIST YET FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. What fucking lazy writing.

Kitty and Gypsy get introduced. Sigh.

Everybody gets on the bus. LSD tripping. Charlie forces Snake OFF The bus in the middle of nowhere. And then lets her back on. Being mean to Snake? So?

Page 42 she is back on and we move on....