Showing posts with label General. Show all posts
Showing posts with label General. Show all posts

Sunday, August 12, 2012

I have a little system of my own....


Is it time?

I wonder. In a world where Alisa Statman wrote a book to honor her deceased lover and the lover's family, only to be attacked by homophobes and internet radio DJs because "how dare she!", are we ready?

Is it time?

I wonder- in a world where the Helter Skelter Forum regularly steals research from much better blogs like TOTLB, are we ready?

Is it time?

I wonder- in a world where actual insane people like JimNY (now Kermit the Puking Frog) still believe that Leslie Van Houten knows who they are, are we ready?

I wonder.....

Was it in a dream, was it just a dream?
I know, yes I know
Seemed so very real, it seemed so real to me

Took a walk down the street
Thru the heat whispered trees
I thought I could hear (hear, hear, hear)
Somebody call out my name as it started to rain


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I wonder if it is time for a TLB Wiki? I suppose the eternally dispensable Adam Gorightly first put the thought into my head when he ripped me off for his kindle book several years ago. And then my own experiences with Wikipedia made me think of it again.

It's a good idea. Recently several of the sites united to try to locate and expose actual true Exorcist level evil. Cooperation is possible.

There's a Marvel Comics Wiki, a Lost Wiki, a Twilight Wiki and even a Muppets wiki (the one JimNy frequents).

Why NOT a TLB Wiki?

The Benefits are that there would be a one stop resource for all researchers. We could have one neutral, factual place. NOT the Bug's novel. Not Wikipedia written by ignorant 15 year olds in Montreal. All sides of a story are there. Kasabian as star witness. Kasabian as drugged out whore and thief who never alerted anyone about what happened.

Like all Wikis there would be consensus. Where are they now sections. (Donde es Senor Donkeydick?) Listing of all theories (Hughes drowned or fled to Nova Scotia as a big and tall model?).

Now this only works if people play nice. I can't run it and frankly I don't want to. I need to share it - with Cats, with Liz, with Matt for sure, maybe even Lynyrd if he can put down the bong for more than a minute. Cielodrive.com yes please. In theory this should take care of itself. The problems will be the real people changing information (Clem says his band name is not Adam Gabriel but Yo Gabba Gabba) and the pure fucking assholes like JimNy. Or even Orca Tate who doesn't want people to know she mainlines her daddy's ashes.

Let's discuss this in the comments. The idea is a strong one and should be done. We all want the truth. The only true enemy of the truth is BUGliosi. Can we all try and do this?

Thursday, August 09, 2012

The Anniversary
























43 years ago today some people were killed by Tex Watson and his car mates. The next day some people were killed by Tex Watson and his car mates.

These people did not deserve to die.

Steve Parent
Voytek Frykowski
Abigail Folger
Jay Sebring
Sharon Tate
Leno LaBianca
Rosemary LaBianca

The people who killed these victims were prosecuted and sentenced to death. The Supreme Court rejected the Death Penalty soon after and now they are all slowly dying in prison themselves, having outlived all of their victims.

Why these particular people were killed remains obscure.

These are the facts of the case as Officer Friday used to say.

Our mission should we decide to accept it is to try to figure out why these victims were killed so horribly, to honor their memories and allow them to rest.

Thank you for your help.

Thursday, July 26, 2012

Can't We All Just Get Along, Rodney?


I'm so bummed. I hate it when people lose their shit and fight, especially over nothing. I hate it when I get dragged into it as well. You know that expression, "the only people who win are the lawyers?" When we fight in TLB land the only person who wins is Orca Tate. Orca thrives on plankton, Krispy Kremes and discord. She doesn't want truth- she wants attention. That's why she always does the same programs with the same broadcasters who are her "friends". Orca's narcissism is unbounded. She thinks she is Sharon transcombaulated back to life. How did Robin become her friend so easily after Patti died? Picture a sphincter and a tongue with Elvis performing the wedding. That's friendship.

Over the last three days there has been huffing and puffing in TLB land. There's the guy Brian Davis of Star City Radio. He has lofty goals and a brusque manner. Fine, the Col isn't polite and dainty either. He got all bent out of shape that Alisa Statman didn't want to do his radio show. Fine. She doesn't have to. But she did agree to answer questions on a few sites. That's her right, and it isn't a radio program. Maybe she's shy. I don't know. I consider her a pal and she didn't answer shit on my site. I'm not hurt. That's no big deal to me. Brian got majorly butthurt and declared a jihad on her. Attacking her book, calling her a liar, making her cry. Not cool.

This led to evilliz people like the super cool and fun Matt to defend Alisa which led to me getting in Brian's face and Cat showing up somewhere and just all kinds of bullshit.

And somewhere Orca sits, Jabba like, rubbing her hands and going "Ha Ha Solo."

I mean seriously people, let's look at the truth  (as the Col calls it)--

1- Cats is eccentric and in poor health but the work she does is incredible. She may want me to take Kanarek out on a date, but I politely ignore it and she remains great people. She had an argument with Brian Davis and whatever, they fought and they moved on ( I hope)!

2- Evil Liz fell out with Cats. She prefers the People Magazine to the stodgy NY Times approach the Col goes for. That's fine. I read her blog because it is interesting.

3- Skynyrd does fine work, makes me think. Thelma and them can be fun. I don't go on the Helter Skelter blogs just because of their thievery, but I bet it is a fun read. I miss the Yahoo group that Denise Andrade had.

4- I spoke to Davis today for a half hour. His heart is in the right place even if his meds might need some increasing. He seems to need to work on his breathing.

5- I know Alisa and she is a beautiful human being. She didn't write the book for money. She is the line producer on MODERN FAMILY. Now dig it- I don't know what she got paid for the book but I can guess and she probably makes that on two episodes of the show. She didn't do the book for money. You know why she did it? Because she loved Patti, Gwen and PJ. SHE was the closest person to PJ when he died, not Orca who seasons her shrimp intake with his ashes twice a week. Alisa. Brie wanted a tribute to her mom, Granpa and Grannie. That's why the book exists. Oh sure it isn't 100% accurate- but it TRIES and comes damn close. Nothing stops Orca and Robin (The Dark Knights Stumble) from doing their own books except their limited educations and mental defects. It's just easier to attack the book that DID get made even if it means you attack your own flesh and blood.

If you followed all of the above you are as fucked in the head as I am and need champagne immediately!!!!

Anyway, seriously CAN WE ALL STOP? Brian, lay off people please including Alisa, she is a nice lady whose heart is in the right place. Did she start off a little obsessed? Probably, but no more than you or I. But the girl fell in love along the way and everything after that is genuine. Does EvilLiz out people who want to stay in? Probably, but I cannot boo hoo for fucking say Mary Brunner who shot at cop and has never repudiated her past. Is the Col a smug asshole- sure I am and I should try not to be.

This is all a sideshow. Love Restless Souls, or no, love Alisa or no, love me or no, we all share the same goal- finding out the truth. It suits Debra for us to fight. She wants not truth- she wants to be Sharon and eat. You have questions about Restless Souls, ask Alisa and if not, fuck it don't believe it. She wasn't there. I wasn't there. The people who were there lie or won't talk.

But it feels like BUG is heading to that great courtroom in the sky soon enough. Then we will unite and demand answers, unhindered by his bullshit or vague threat of lawsuits. We need to all come together on this subject. I've always hoped for 100 TLB blogs, good ones because someone is more likely to come up with an idea I've missed.

I don't need you to love one another people. But JimNY, Debra, Robin, Wheat, these are all sad pathetic human beings. No need to love, but let's get along?

OKAY?

Sunday, July 01, 2012

CRazy TimE !!!!


Now I am just thinking aloud here. Don't listen to anything I have to say. But wouldn't it be CRAZY if it turned out that there were people out there who hold themselves up as victims and say that they should be felt sorry for and then it turned out that they did illegal shit too?

I mean suppose the defining moment of your life was a hamburger you ate back in the early 1970s. Since that time you ate at the Hometown Buffet and became a fat pig of a person who showed up places claiming to have heard screams you could not possibly have heard....

Or suppose you were an obsessed homophobe with an burning need to be "besties" with a dead starlet's sister. Any Sister will do of course. Consumed with hate and a need for attention, would you ever use your mad computer skills to illegally hack sites?

Or worse yet, suppose you were the sister of a tragic murder victim, who spends her days living off the money from a supposed postal incident, turning up for any interview, showing off your dead sister's gowns while using one teaspoon a day of your father's ashes for your cappuccino, telling yourself you could have been a star too if only the drug dealers at Cielo had kept their promises to you when you were 16.

Wouldn't it be FUCKING CRAZY TIME if they did something that ended up with them arrested and in jail?

Oh snap- anyone notice that the anti-eviliz blog is shut down?
Do mad computer hackers not realize google has it all and responds to supoenas?

The above is just me relaxing and speculating. Ain't no thing.

Tuesday, February 14, 2012

And We Are Back


Three months of battling cancer kind of sucks.

Miss us? Of course you did.

Tuesday, November 01, 2011

Opinions are Like Assholes


If you are going to be a true scholar of the TLB case you need to read all the major books, and then decide that they are all wrong.

I mean the facts may indeed be accurate but the conclusions are at best muddled.

Everyone, even the BUG, is a human being. We see things the way we see things. Doesn't mean we are right or wrong, it just means we are fallible people.

People who come on here or visit Liz and try and tell us that "this is absolutely true " because they read it in the BUG'S novel or Sanders said something, they actually make me sick.

When someone shares their version of reality, a true researcher asks themselves "What do they gain from this spin."

No one can be trusted regarding TLB. NO ONE.

Thursday, September 15, 2011

THANGS


ITEM!- Has anyone noticed that not one of the many films that keep getting announced about the case never get made? Is it because they simply SUCK? Hmmm....

ITEM!- Col is hearing that the Sanders book about Sharon Tate is 100% free of any original research whatsoever. Reheated hash? Ugh!

ITEM!- The next big Parole Hearing is November 16, with Mr. Watson. Orca Tate will of course be there to get her TV Time (I mean you don't think Watson has a chance, do you?)The Col wonders what might happen if the person actually authorized by the Tate Family to represent them at these hearings (not Orca) decides to show up this time. Debra might just "start screaming and never stop."

ITEM!- The one real bummer for researchers in Rudi's death is that without obituaries we don't get a list of his many,many clients- which limits us in the the search for connections!

Saturday, August 20, 2011

Verbatim


I posted about Brainwashing a few days ago and it brings up another point for all of you serious researchers.

It really hit home when I did that tour with the Chicago Sun-Times lady. We would stop and I would point out stuff and it was fascinating her reaction.

THIS ISN'T A FUCKING MOVIE.

THIS SHIT HAPPENED.

If this isn't a fucking movie, how come on here and Liz and Cats I always see quotes thrown around as if they fucking are accurate to the letter? They aren't. Do you remember what you said to someone word for word even yesterday?

Some of you throw quotes up as if to say "Haha, this happened." Like there was a fucking video camera taping the events. Like what the OJ jury needed.

Did Parent say "Hey I want to sell you a clock?" or "As long as I give you a good blowjob maybe you'll want to buy my clock." You think Garretson told the actual verbatim truth even if he rememebered?

Did Charlie says "Do something witchy" or "Leave something witchy" or "Go be witchy?"

If you have to hang onto a 42 year old quote to prove your point please go away.

Saturday, July 30, 2011

Time Passages


On another very good blog people seemed to be having orgasms that Snake Lake deigned to write them a letter that basically said nothing.
This is the same Snake Lake who basically said anything that the BUG told her to.

It made me think and wonder- I have watched as each year TLB recedes more and more into the darkness of time and distant memory.

Will there soon be a day, post BUG, when only a few historians care?

Are we chasing ourselves in our pursuit of the truth?

Friday, July 15, 2011

That Old Gang Of Mine


One thing I always wonder, when I reflect on the nitty gritty of the case is how much the contemporary Family members look back on their old gang and whether it means much to them anymore.

If you conclude as I do that the whole mess was over and done with by the end of 1972 (some LVH and Squeaky shit to come but still) and it can only possibly start in 1967, we are talking five years of their lives, from a long time ago. Aside from Little Paul who barely got 40 years, and recently Sadie, surprisingly almost all the players are out there in the wind growing old. Which is incredible, really, if you examined say a group of 50 random people from back then you would think that many more were gone than just one or two.

But seriously, does Nancy call up Clem and reminisce about the orgies? Does Donkey Dick Dan drunk dial Ouisch and remind her she was the best lay he ever had? In between vaginal studies does Snake Lake track down Bruce Davis on Facebook?

Of the people I hung with back between my 18th and 24th year, I stay in touch with 4 or 5 of them still. The Col is 88 in Panda Years and this doesn't seem like too many or too few people. I went to a reunion once and as Charlie would have said, "they all got old on me."

You never hear about any of them still communicating. I wonder if they do.

Saturday, June 25, 2011

Did The Cops Give a Shit?


In DEATH TO PIGS Hendrickson makes a side remark at one point that a shitload of hippy bodies would show up every week in places like Topanga Canyon, to the point where people began to get annoyed.

This triggered a major thing that always bothered me about TLB. Is it possible, that right UP TO TLB, the cops didn't give a shit?

1- Zero clearly is murdered and the cops, by all reports, accept the bullshit Russian Roulette with a loaded gun excuse.

2- Crowe is shot and obviously had to go to the hospital, but you don't hear anything about an extensive investigation.

3- The other murders that Buglisoi tries to pin on the Family, like the Scientology students and Joel Pugh- does it feel to any of you like these were priorities for law enforcement?

4- Even Gary Hinman, which today would be first page news, doesn't feel like that big a deal. I mean, if they had properly investigated it they would have by DAY TWO tracked down Mary Brunner who used to live there for god's sake and had some idea. They only got a suspect because stupid Bobby slept in a stolen car.

It just feels like a few deaths were no big deal to the cops. Until the movie star got it in the stomach.

Some if this stuff happen today and there is NO WAY nothing happens.

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Some People Cannot Read


In the comments one reader, Mr. Poirot (probably not a Belgian detective) writes the following rant.

Blogger MrPoirot said...

Col you have spent years trying to create your unique version of TLB. You think Tate was a drug burn retaliation and Labianca was a mob hit by Charlie. Sorry but I've never heard any of the killers back up your versions. Ive spent a lot of time reading your versions over the past 5 years. I really can't see why you make claims that are never once backed up by any of the killers or Family members. I really don't give a rats ass if Bug ever existed or not. You know darn well that Charlir flipped his lid after Bobby, Mary and Sandy ended up in jail only s few days after he thought he had murdered Crowe. Within minutes of this triple jailing dilema on the day Charlie got back from Easelen Inst Charlie and the girls concocted the copycat murder spree of TLB in order to get Bobby off. I believe you know this to be the case yet you continually try to write your own script that has nothing to do with the events that are backed up by every person involved. Not a single Family member has ever substantiated your claims even after over 40 years. Not one person ever testified about a mob hit or drug burn in any of the many murder trials that lasted nearly 9 years. Most of these trials Bug was not involved with.

There are so many problems in this statement that after a while I get so frustrated I cannot take it sometimes. The fucking guy says he has read the blog but he obviously cannot read then very well. Because he is just factually incorrect about so much shit. Sorry Poirot, but you do in fact deserve this public lashing.

Blogger MrPoirot said...

Col you have spent years trying to create your unique version of TLB.Sir I am not trying to create anything. I don't have any version. I am trying to make sense out of things that are lies upon lies upon lies. I do not think I have succeeded, despite a 34 year obsession with the case. The Col NEVER says he is right because he knows he is not. I do not have a unique version of the events I examine EVERY version of events. You think Tate was a drug burn retaliation No I do not. In recent posts we are exploring that. This is one possible scenario. There are many others.and Labianca was a mob hit by Charlie. Fuck you dickhead for putting words in my mouth. I have never said this. I find this highly unlikely. It is a theory and so we explore it. But if you can't read then don't write.Sorry but I've never heard any of the killers back up your versions. Because the killers all tell the truth? Retard. Many of them testified that it was all about Helter Skelter. That is one thing that I am certain it was NOT about.Ive spent a lot of time reading your versions over the past 5 years.Only not very well I really can't see why you make claims that are never once backed up by any of the killersThe Killers all say Charlie made them do it. This is ludicrous. or Family members.Maybe I should believe Little Paul's testimony. After all, he only wanted to take the whole Family over, why would he lie about Charlie, right? I really don't give a rats ass if Bug ever existed or not. What does this mean? More retardation. He always existed. WHY did he make up a motive and suppress evidence and perjure himself? Insanity? (much evidence for this) Arrogance? (more evidence for this!) Cover Up (I don't know but would like to. You know darn well that Charlir flipped his lid after Bobby, Mary and Sandy ended up in jail only s few days after he thought he had murdered Crowe. Within minutes of this triple jailing dilema on the day Charlie got back from Easelen Inst Charlie and the girls concocted the copycat murder spree of TLB in order to get Bobby off.First off, I don't darn well know anything. Second off, this is a good solid theory. Like all theories there are major holes. Firstly, no one in authority EVER thought they were copycats- were they just super lame? And secondly, why stop? Why 2 and not 4 nights? Or 8? I believe you know this to be the caseI know nothing, which is one hundred times more than you do. yet you continually try to write your own script that has nothing to do with the events that are backed up by every person involved.The majority of testimony is about Helter Skelter, idiot, not copycats- so your own paragraph is contradictory bullshit. Not a single Family member has ever substantiated your claims even after over 40 years.And again, I guess Tex and Bruce are telling us the truth, right? Not one person ever testified about a mob hitagain, NEVER said this nor do I believe it or drug burn in any of the many murder trials that lasted nearly 9 years. Most of these trials Bug was not involved with.Most of them he was involved in actually.

So there we have it. One of the reasons this is too hard. People refuse to actually read properly.

Wednesday, May 11, 2011

The Tour Continues



Here is a shot of Hinman's house...I forgot how far down the road it was... and here is the gate, closed, to 14400 Sunset, Dennis' pad. Last time I did this a decade ago with Jason there was an estate sale going on. Got to film the whole place, even the pool which was dry and filled with weeds. No go this time.

Tuesday, April 05, 2011

What Happened Was....


There was once a great site which was called THE MANSON FAMILY TODAY. It was run by a great guy named Bret in Iceland. He exposed convicted murderer and still uncharged LaBianca conspirator Steve Grogan as Adam Gabriel, SF Band Member who played children's parties. He sent the Col cool vids too, including one of the girls on the corner actually making Bobby's vest, which the Col owns.

Bret died of drugs. It is a shame.

I have been offered the opportunity to host his old site but I have declined. I only care about mine. I am selfish.

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There was once a site that was up way longer than Bret's. It was called CharlieManson.com. Mark Turner ran it. He ate the farts out of Debra Tate's ass, so his opinion was skewed. But he had a lot of great info on the site. It went down in early 2011. I don't know why.

I also don't care.

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There was a Yahoo group called Killed The Sixties, owned by Denise Greek and run by Heaven. Two terrific ladies. It still exists but where once it got 300 posts a day now it gets that in a year. Heaven retired. She knew too much. Nice lady.

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This is the history of TLB study going back to the Clark Ronson Board, The GoRightly abomination of a website and the site run by pedophile Bill Nelson.

What we do is transitory. People have forgotten that Bug stalked his milkman and beat his mistress. They don't know that Charlie didn't kill anyone. Life marches on.

If we are going to solve this thing we need to keep notes and pay attention.

Friday, January 21, 2011

Talking Turkey


Look, it's obvious, they AIN'T GETTING OUT ever. The Bug wrote in the back of the novel that the girls would get out in 25 years. But even with the BUG approving of Susan's release, hopping out the door on one leg like some sort of refugee from Watership Down, it didn't happen. And you know why, really? Because nobody CARES anymore. Does that sound oxymoronic? It actually isn't. Follow the bouncing Colonel.

The Family started 44 fucking years ago. The murders were 41 years ago, the trials were 40 years ago. That's 179 in Panda Years. I mean it was forever ago. These killers were YOUNG ass back there and they are living forever. But it was also a different world. If you got in your DeLorean and went back there you wouldn't last a day. Might as well go back to 1066. Kids today don't remember Reagan. Palin shows up and you compare her to McCarthy and people are like "ummm what?" It's like the guy who was in the Tower of London dungeon for decades (I'm making this up but you'll follow it.) because the King put him there for jaywalking. It's like three Kings later, no one knows why he's there, but they ain't gonna be the ones to let him out just in case THEY catch shit. They don't CARE enough to even deal with it.

According to the law they all should be out. No, idiot about to yell at me, that doesn't mean they belong out or I want them out. The law says they are entitled to Parole. The brilliant Catch 22 that has sprung up is "You want out, which means you aren't sorry so we won't let you out. Only by agreeing to stay here to we believe you are sorry." Like in Life of Brian - "I'm not the Messiah...only the true Messiah denies his divinity." They can't win. One does wonder why they show up.

But if Sadie didn't get out, what chance do the rest of them have? Katie killed more people and though she didn't dance in a pregnant woman's blood volume doesn't get you a discount. Leslie had a meeting with JimNY which is enough to keep her locked up for life, with daily horsewhippings. Charlie's happy being the bad man. Bobby would like to be out but that whole story is so confused who knows. Bruce is the Zodiac Killer and probably killed John Lennon psychically....

Sorry I came undone. They are never getting out NOT because of who they killed but because whoever lets them out lets out a Mansonite. And this will never do. So aside from some special face time in which Debra can weep and rewrite history, the hearings are a parade.

What I would LOVE is for one of them to say next time, "You are right I don't deserve to be out, I skip the hearing" and then for their lawyer to say- "Aha, they are sorry, let them out." But that would be too easy....

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One commenter recently asked me what I meant by the BUG perjury. That person should go read the rest of the blog going back years now.

1- The BUG didn't need to present a motive to win the case. He had the actual killers cold with real evidence. He didn't have Charlie because, well he didn't kill anybody. So he concocted a motive and sold it to the jury. Any person with a brain can see that today. It's obvious. And Aaron Stovitz told me himself.
2- The BUG testified under oath that he didn't bring the LA TIMES with the Nixon headline into the courtroom. He did.
3- The BUG wrote a book which is self-serving and full of clear lies.

He also stalked his milkman for allegedly fucking his wife and beat up his mistress.

Fuck the Bug.

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I will review the MANSON NOW book. Suffice it to say it has nothing new to add.

Saturday, November 20, 2010

ITEMS!


Item- Does anyone want me to keep tearing apart that shitty screenplay by Scott Kosar? I haven't gotten very many comments about it so maybe no one gives a shit. It isn't like the film will ever come out.

Item- Did you get your Bobby Parole Letters in yet? Deadline is in a few days.

Item- Brenda is not happy with evil liz. Personally, my worldview is that Cats is the queen whose feet I am not worthy of touching. Liz hates Cats. Therefore Liz is insane. But I am not sure why she pissed off Brenda. Does anyone CARE what she is doing these days? I don't. I just want to know why TLB happened. I suspect Brenda has some ideas, but she isn't the link to the solution. Good luck Liz, be careful opening the door.

Item- The new Charlie book is delayed a few weeks. Somehow I don't think I'll learn much new.

Item- Anyone hear anything about a Charlie film that some kids in Wales were gonna shoot? Talk about authenticity!

Later !

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

What Did Bruce Know and When Did He Know It?














In the comments one of our esteemed regulars pointed out that Bruce might be the last to know what really happened with some of the more prominent events. That got me wondering what he might actually, really know.

Before we posit, we need to reflect upon what his relationship was with Charlie. If Watkins was the puppy dog, and Watson the pit bull, that makes Bobby the rival and Bruce the confidant and right hand, with Clem the court jester.

Bruce, when his actions can be tracked at all, is always at Charlie's right hand.

He arrives with Charlie at Hinman for the ear lopping.
He is right there in the fray with Shea.
He is convicted in both.
Upon Charlie's orders, he vanishes in the sewers.
Upon Charlie's orders, he gives himself up, never to be a free man again.

So we know he's close. If there was an actual NUMBER TWO then that would be Brucie.

So what does Bruce know, for sure?

--> How Hinman went down, and why. I mean what were they talking about in the 35 minute drive over there?
--> Who else was involve in the Shea Murder and cleanup (Gypsy?)?
--> Who killed Doreen Gaul? (I think he did)
--> What happened and why at Cielo (I believe he went there hours later with Charlie)
--> Why was LaBianca targeted? ( He knew True )

Any one of these answers would change the study of this case forever.

So yes, I would love to see Bruce answer them.

But he won't.

And therefore he should not be freed. Which I don't think he will be anyway. Bobby has only half the murder convictions that Bruce has and he's stuck too.

Saturday, January 30, 2010

The Manson Fairy Tale


[This was an article that I was writing for the LA Weekly as part of the 40th Anniversary Hoopla. They didn't have the balls to run it. It is not finished, but does summarize a lot of what we have learned on the Blog]

The Manson Fairy Tale

On the night of August 8, 1969, five people were viciously and savagely murdered by strangers in their Bel Air mansion. This included a movie actress/wife of a famous director, a young heiress to a coffee fortune, her suave drug dealing boyfriend, the famed men’s hairstylist to the stars and some poor random boy who had stopped by for a gay hookup with the caretaker. The next night, August 9, 1969, a couple that owned a string of grocery stores was murdered in their posh Los Feliz home. Things were written in blood on the walls of both houses. Stabbings were too multiple to count.

It was eventually revealed that one murderous psychopathic male had led a group of very young girls on both nights of slaughter.

You’re now thinking in your head- “Of course, man, Charles Manson. Get on with it.”

Except it wasn’t. It was a young, good looking boy from Texas named Charles Watson. This unfeeling, deranged killer led a changing group of girls both nights on what they called “creepy crawl missions” that left nine dead over two nights, including a nine month pregnant woman.

Charles Manson wasn’t within twenty miles of any of the murders when they occurred.

So why did you think of him first, rather than “Tex” Watson?

You can thank Vincent T. Bugliosi and his fairy tale called HELTER SKELTER.

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George and the Dragon-

In the traditional fable of George and the Dragon, St. George is a brave warrior who captures a dragon and basically kicks the living crap out of it, enslaving the dragon with a collar which he uses to drag him back to town. The dragon, now essentially a pussy, is described by George in the most demonic terms possible. Because after all, the bigger and badder the dragon, the better the hero George is for capturing it. George then uses the dragon and the FEAR of the dragon to make the town afraid and force it to submit to his will and pray.

The initial prosecutor of the Manson case was one Aaron Stovitz. He was a spectacular force of nature. A strong prosecutor. HE wasn’t even sure that Manson was worth going after. Manson wasn’t even AT the first crime scene and left the second before any killings happened. And he knew he already HAD the actual killers cold. One of the girls Patricia Krenwinkel had left her fingerprints at the Tate house and had left her handwriting on the ridge at the Los Feliz home. Leader Watson’s fingerprints were found at the Tate house. Clothing belonging to all of the killers was found. And fellow murderess Susan Atkins was confessing to pretty much every one she came across.

Stovitz HAD the actual murderers COLD. They weren’t going anywhere.

But Stovitz succumbed to the spotlight and gave one too many interviews to the media circus.. This led to the judge having him removed from the case. And this led to Vincent Buglosi becoming lead prosecutor. Vincent Bugliosi, who prior to the case had been involved in a scandal in which he stalked his milkman because he was convinced he was the father of his son. Vincent Bugliosi, who SUBSEQUENT to the case would assault his mistress for not getting an abortion he paid for. Vincent Bulgliosi who weaved a fairy tale to the jury and then packaged that fairy tale into the best selling crime book ever. In the United Kingdom they have an expression- there’s no show without Punch. For the last FORTY years Bugliosi has made it a point to show up on any (and I mean any- Bertice Berry for god’s sake!) television show concerning Manson. The Dragon Manson has made him rich and famous- he has fed off the myth of Manson more than anyone has even bothered to consider over the last forty years.

And in return, the public has been fed a ludicrous fairy tale involving race wars and bottomless pits and Beatles songs.

Oh please, don’t start your bullshit. No Manson is not a nice guy. No I don’t feel sorry for him. He was a five foot two punk who had spent over half his life in prison. He was a thief, a pimp, a drug dealer. A piece of shit. He belongs in prison and is likely happy where he is.

But thanks to the lies of Bugliosi, Rolling Stone labeled him “The Most Dangerous Man Alive” and today his name is synonymous with evil when in fact he was the loser son of a prostitute who fell through society’s cracks. A nothing.

My handle on the web is ColScott and I run the Official Tate LaBianca Blog. http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/ Have done so since 2005, as part of an lifelong interest in the case and as part of a vacuum created at that time when two of the major Manson sites shut down. I’ve had the opportunity to spend hundreds of hours, talking to principal players- killers, lawyers and victims’ families. The main purpose for the site is to try to undo the damage of the Bugliosi fairy tale. These murders were hideous and affected real people. They WERE committed by the people in jail, make no mistake about that. But common sense and the historical record show they were NOT committed for the reasons presented to the jury and to us.

Let’s take a look at the fairy tale, the genesis of the fairy tale, and Vincent Bugliosi himself.

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As the Manson case was shaping up to be the trial of the Century, the newly appointed DA Bugliosi was faced with a dilemma. The guilty parties were all clearly guilty. Plenty of evidence to put all of them away. Indeed, even Bugliosi’s eventual star witness was scheduled to go down. And why not? She was guilty as hell, having driven to both crime scenes knowing what was going to happen and never once contacting authorities. But Bugliosi wanted his Dragon. It was the sixties. Hippies were everywhere. The counterculture was in full bloom. Bugliosi on the other hand was a lawyer. He wore suits. He had short hair, and a wife. He could not have been more opposite if he tried.

The police assumed the murders were drug related. Frykowski was a big dealer. Sebring he hairdresser was a big user. Watson also was a dealer. The Los Feliz couple were Mafia associates. The DA’s office also thought drugs was the reason. So, by the way, do I. After all, the two other crimes involving Manson and his Family that preceded the nights of slaughter were the murder of a drug dealing music teacher and the shooting of a black drug dealer gangster.

The problem was, the drug dealing motive doesn’t really tie in Manson. The only way to “get” Manson tied in to the case, since again he didn’t kill ANYBODY, was to make him the crazed hippy cult leader who controlled minds and forced his followers to kill. Somehow, THAT made sense to Bugliosi.

Now, take careful note that in order to prosecute Manson, indeed any of the killers, the prosecution was not required to show motive. They never are. They just needed to prove that they committed the crimes, for whatever reasons. But in his factually self serving book on the case, also called HELTER SKELTER, Bugliosi notes his belief that he indeed HAD to show motive for Manson, otherwise no one would convict him. He cites, rather smugly, the pre-trial wisdom from his colleagues and the press that he would never convict Manson. Of course, the pre-trial wisdom didn’t account for an ambitious prosecutor willing to just make shit up in order to convict.

As Bugliosi himself tells the story, he could not figure out why Manson ordered the murders. I hasten to note here that up to this point, NOBODY was claiming he had. Oh, sure, over the decades as one by one they come up for parole, each actual killer has tried to blame Charlie in some way or another. It’s fashionable. It’s in accordance with the myth. It lessens their own blame. But the most anyone was saying at this point was that Charlie had told Tex to go to Terry Melcher’s old house in Bel Air and “do something witchy.” The fifty other times he had given people those instructions nobody got murdered. But they sure did this time. Why?

What Bugliosi then did was a masterpiece of storytelling. He was a dogged investigator who interviewed everyone he could. He took a piece of information from one person and a piece from another. It didn’t matter if said person had something to gain from lying or if said person even made sense. Piece by piece he took his tidbits. And then when he had his canvas full of “facts” he worked them all, massaged them, and came up with the big Fairy Tale. The Big Lie. Helter Skelter. A tale that would certainly scare the living shit out of white Americans, especially the twelve on the jury. A tale that would resonate with the riots that were happening at the time. A tale that didn’t matter if it was true- it FELT as if it SHOULD be true.

The glue that tied the tale together came from one of the youngest, best looking males in Manson’s group, Paul Watkins ( who would go on to write his own self-serving book, MY LIFE WITH CHARLES MANSON, now a collector’s item). Paul answered question, filled in the gaps, and even appeared in the Academy Award nominated documentary called MANSON playing his hippie tunes and confirming the fairy tale. And what was Paul doing while feeding Bugliosi’s imagination? Running the Family in Charlie’s absence, playing both sides so he could run his own little harem.

Now that we know where the story came from, just what was this amazing story ?

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Manson’s motivation for what would ultimately be ten murders was to start a black white civil war, a war to end all wars in which every person would judge themselves and then take it out on every other person around them. The blacks would rise up out of the ghettos and slaughter the whites, according to some vague prophecies in the Biblical Book of Revelations. Every white person except Charlie and his followers who would be hiding out in a bottomless pit in Death Valley. Then, after insane amounts of slaughter, Charlie and his family, now grown to Biblical numbers, would rise out of the pit and, since blacks cannot really lead, the Family would take over the world, with Charlie as the leader.

Oh yeah, and the Beatles were sending Charlie messages through their songs on how to do this.

Please go back and read that paragraph again. The sheer insanity of it boggles the mind. It seems so patchwork and stitched together. It seems so drugged out. It seems so obviously the work of someone who needs psychiatric help.

And it is- it comes from the mind of Vincent Bugliosi whose own wife, according to affidavits filed in the 1970s when Bugliosi ran for District Attorney and lost, was urging him to seek mental help to no avail.

The story basically comes about like this. Bugliosi interviews a ranch hand who says Charlie talked about a bottomless pit full of rivers and honey while on a drug trip in Death Valley. He talks to a biker trying to get a stolen vehicle charge dismissed who says Charlie, during the Watts riots, was talking about a black uprising – pretty much like every one in Los Angeles at the time. Another visitor at the ranch mentions talking to Charlie about Revelations. Someone talks about how Charlie, who was more of a Johnny Cash kind of guy, was amused at how he had renamed one of his girls Sadie before ever hearing the Beatles song Sexy Sadie. And so on, until Paul Watkins helps Bugliosi stitch it all together and we have Helter Skelter.

Saturday, November 21, 2009

My Only Friend The End


Do you think that this is it for the TLB Case?

I mean, seriously, the books that come out suck. The TV shows are lamed and defanged.

Nobody asks Kasabian why she did things that she probably didn't do.

Nobody asks Gypsy about her life of crime.

Nobody asks BUGliosi about his mental illnesses.

Actually, nobody asks anyone anything anymore.

My guess is we will have to wait for BUG to pass away and then maybe people like Jakobsen will start telling the truth.

What do you all think?

Monday, September 07, 2009

AesNihil Gets Strange Props


The Last Supper: Mansonites Converge at El Coyote

By Skylaire Alfvegren

Published on August 12, 2009 at 4:53pm

El Coyote is Movieland’s idea of a Mexican restaurant: The lighting is garish, the margaritas stiff. Waitresses clad in petticoated, off-the-shoulder cotton fiestas have been serving, as they call it, “authentic California-style Mexican food” to actors and others since 1931, but the blood-red leather booth in the back played host to its most infamous party on the night of August 8, 1969, when actress Sharon Tate dined there with Jay Sebring, Wojciech Frykowski and Abigail Folger. Later that night, the group would be slain by followers of Charles Manson in Tate’s home at 10050 Cielo Drive. Tall, blond, and forever gripping a camcorder, odd-teur Jon Aes-Nihil (director of the gory cult classic Manson Family Movies) gathered his unusual band of miscreants for “the Last Supper” this past Saturday night, as he has done every August 8 since 1979. Manson’s long-standing appeal? “It was the first time the hippies struck back,” one diner commented. Or was it?

Never a true crime buff nor serial-killer dilettante, I had long viewed Manson symbolically — a guitar-strumming ecoterrorist with a Messiah complex, who effectively extinguished the Age of Aquarius, but on this, the 40th anniversary of the Tate/LaBianca slayings, a different picture emerged.

Manson, suspected of being both an FBI informant and agent provocateur, may well have been a patsy. “The FBI took out the Black Panthers, the Yippies, the Weather Underground, and it’s a contention that the murders were orchestrated,” author Adam Gorightly pointed out between sips from a margarita. Manson’s connections to military intelligence, the Church of Scientology, government-sponsored mind-control experiments and the ’60s occult underground ripple through The Shadow Over Santa Susana, Gorightly’s definitive Manson tome, recently rereleased by Creation Books.

Manson referred to his family as “slippies,” and only grew his hair long in the months preceding the murders; but because of Manson, “it was a long time before you saw longhairs portrayed in a positive light.”

Aes-Nihil’s group of historians, writers, musicians and filmmakers traded stories of the weird, twisted Hollywood of old, attracting the attention of a pudgy industry type who, with no prompting, described the “peaceful vibe” surrounding Tate’s house when Trent Reznor recorded “Helter Skelter” there with a not-yet-famous Marilyn Manson. Archivist Aes-Nihil (short for “aesthetic nihilism”) poked his ever-present camera in the man’s face, adding to the hundreds of hours of Manson-related footage he’s acquired over the decades, smirking all the while.

In all the years I’d known Aes-Nihil, I’d always thought it was the Family’s creep factor that had attracted him. But “there’s infinitely more to the Manson thing than Tex Watson killing people,” he explained. “I’m obsessed with the effect the murders had on the ’60s, since I was there, part of a group somewhat like the Family. When the story came out, we didn’t believe it for a second.”

A man of few words, he resumed shooting the party’s chatter: Church of Satan founder Anton La Vey had cursed Tate’s husband, director Roman Polanski, after they’d had a falling-out on the set of Rosemary’s Baby. Drug-addled orgies at the house on Cielo Drive were filmed and later sold on the black market by crooked LAPD cops, who’d stolen them from the crime scene. Family member Patricia Krenwinkel, in correspondence with researcher John Judge, swore she had been a victim of mind control. The acid Manson gave his followers was allegedly of the same, government-issued variety “Son of Sam” killer David Berkowitz had been dosed with while in the military. Standard dinner-party conversation.

Gathering the assembled for a postdinner portrait, Aes-Nihil continued: “Charlie and Sharon [Tate] have been baptized in the well of eternity via mass culture and universal myth. As for Charlie, he’s a modern-day Nietzsche.” This is apparent, he says, in Manson’s unedited interviews. “If a lot of what Charlie has said had been attributed to someone who is politically correct, it would be hailed as genius.”

I heard him out, knowing that many people don’t, and smiled for his camera.