The Official Inbred Blog reminds us this week of Orca Tate by re-posting an interview done with Marine Life.
In the interview Orca bleats-
"DT: My webmaster runs facebook for me. I haven’t done it myself.
I’m scared due to the fact that I get at least four death threats a
year. I don’t want to taint anything to do with Sharon with this
negativity. Now these threats have been around whether I’m on facebook
or not. They have always managed to find their way to me. Also, I have
many crazy stalkers and imposters and people who try to say I’m not a
member of my own family. It’s all absolutely absurd. It all hurts my
feelings."
So now, the questions-
1- Has anyone actually threatened Orca with death? I mean why bother, it would be like threatening a crazy cat lady. I don't believe this has EVER happened much less "at least four times a year."
2- Heh heh she said "Taint".
3- Has anyone ever stalked Orca? Why? Ambergris?
4- Orca, THE COL, ME, ME ME ME I say you were disowned by your family. I say it. I say you were disinherited, you own no part of Sharon Tate, you torture your father by withholding his final resting place. I say it. The WILL says it. Alisa Statman says it. Patti's kids say it. But we are all wrong. Well, Orca, it should be EASY. Prove it! Answer the questions. I will still pay for the lie detector test.
Otherwise, so much for your hurt feelings.
...Truth has not special time of its own. Its hour is now — always and indeed then most truly when it seems unsuitable to actual circumstances. (Albert Schweitzer).....the truth about these murders has not been uncovered, but we believe the time for the truth is now. Join us, won't you?
Showing posts with label Debra. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Debra. Show all posts
Saturday, March 23, 2013
Friday, March 22, 2013
Immediate Family Only
Hi there. The Col is back from an hour reading the inbred LS8 blog and listening to them argue about why Bruce Davis should have been released. Did you know you could actually feel your brain cells whither and die while reading that blog? The Col still encourages every blog out there, the more the merrier. But when you name yourself and your blog after a redneck Southern Rock band which supported the Confederate flag, surely it isn't because you want to do serious research about TLB!? Of course not.
This seems to be the blog where the loons go to fly. Mr. Poirot has a wide berth over there if you know what I'm saying. I just read a bunch of their posts and comments about Bruce Davis. They seem to be trying to insult the governor for not freeing him for all sorts of reasons. Of course there is one good reason not to free him-
He KILLED somebody!
So we aren't here to support Bruce. I have told you that he is not getting out. Punk is gonna die in prison. His wife figured that out, what haven't the inbreds?
The Col is much more interested in Debra Tate (Orca) and Barbara Hoyt (Orcette). See Bruce and the girls can lie their asses off at every hearing and they do. But they are where they belong. Debra and Barbara lie their asses off in every hearing and pretend they don't. They also contribute to the confusion about the case and that the Col does not abide.
So the Col got a very well researched email from a member of the research crew who cares about the truth. Guess who's been lying to the Parole Board? You're gonna be shocked!
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From: NameRedacted
To: Lawyer who still Uses Aol for emails
Subject: Bruce Davis/ Gary Hinman Relatives
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:12 -0800
Mr. Beckman
I am writing you in regards to the victim witness situation for Bruce Davis's last parole hearing. There were two people who spoke on behalf of the Hinman family, one of those persons was Debra Tate who was supposedly there for a first cousin of Gary Hinman. The reason it was claimed for a cousin submitting a statement was that no one else was alive. This is simply not true! Both of Gary Hinman's sisters are still alive.
I am attaching a number of things to support this fact. First is Robert Hinman's, Gary's father, obituary naming his survivors. (the first two daughters in his obituary are Gary's sisters, the second two daughters are Robert's step daughters, his second wife's children from a previous marriage. Gary's mother died a few months after he did, Robert remarried after that.)
Second and third attachments are Been Verified reports on both of the sisters. I have done social security death index searches on both women and neither of them are listed as having died. Barbara Jean Hinman apparently has some competency issues as I found a law case where this was discussed. It was a case about an easement issue involving sister Carole as well.
http://co.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.19890706_0040310.CO.htm/qx
I also found something regarding Carole Hinman Romberg and her feelings on testifying at a parole hearing for Bobby Beausoleil. She had moved on and did not wish to be involved any longer, according to her daughter who answered the request from the LA County DA's office informing Carole of her right to speak at the hearing. I'm pretty sure you would be able figure out which of Carole's daughters answered the request from the DA's office from the pdf with Carole's info. The parole hearing of Beausoleil's is at this link and is on page 86 of the document. It is Beausoleil's 2010 hearing if the link does not work.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:STuHfjpmNREJ:www.cielodrive.com/transcripts/BobbyBeausoleil2010Parole.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjIbD891_X1O22-W1Tue2D7K5qjHFmcEVEtv73Wduaqn1XVBLmWqj1zjnQliYHUAaeS4hYTC4SLwOWm_fyhCACY091YakLlZmJ_-m7qOzb4GTXFqmNEX4F92LF1ZlWCXcXD1SGu&sig=AHIEtbR2j6Qa4Zoiab61A87CFygkWwjdfQ
I also have some information about some of Gary Hinman's first cousins on his mothers side of the family. None of the first cousins names match the names of the people being represented by Debra Tate and the other person. This is an obituary for Gary's aunt.
http://www.postindependent.com/article/20021011/OBITUARIES/210100028
Gary's father had one sister, Margaret Elizabeth Hinman, her married name was Chapman. She was born in 1903 in Colorado and died in 1991 in California, where she had lived for decades. Below are the death index records for her. I believe her husband's first name was Hilton, although I am not entirely certain of that. I did find a death record for a Hilton Chapman who was from Colorado and died in California in 1963. Margaret Hinman Chapman got her social security number in 1963 in California, so that kind of fits.
I was able to locate a 1940 census record for Margaret and Hilton Chapman. They lived Colorado in that census. There were no children listed on that census report. If the person claiming to be a first cousin named Kay Martley was Margaret's daughter she should have been on that census as Kay Martley is 75 years old. See fourth attachment.
I am not a forensic genaologist so can not guarantee total accuracy of all this information but I am experienced with doing this type of research. I would suggest that you have someone else blindly try to replicate what I have learned for verification. There should be grounds for an appeal I would think.
Respectfully
Name Redacted
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Therein follows much information about legal claims against Barbara Hoyt (Clayborn) who does appear to have problems paying her bills. Too bad the book with Nellie/Molesto never panned out!
Anyway, The DA needs to address this. Are these two attention seeking, burger inhaling, father ashes hoarding beached whales lying to the government? Since when do the wishes of a first cousin trump the wishes of a sister?
This seems to be the blog where the loons go to fly. Mr. Poirot has a wide berth over there if you know what I'm saying. I just read a bunch of their posts and comments about Bruce Davis. They seem to be trying to insult the governor for not freeing him for all sorts of reasons. Of course there is one good reason not to free him-
He KILLED somebody!
So we aren't here to support Bruce. I have told you that he is not getting out. Punk is gonna die in prison. His wife figured that out, what haven't the inbreds?
The Col is much more interested in Debra Tate (Orca) and Barbara Hoyt (Orcette). See Bruce and the girls can lie their asses off at every hearing and they do. But they are where they belong. Debra and Barbara lie their asses off in every hearing and pretend they don't. They also contribute to the confusion about the case and that the Col does not abide.
So the Col got a very well researched email from a member of the research crew who cares about the truth. Guess who's been lying to the Parole Board? You're gonna be shocked!
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Hi Colonel!
I am so incensed that Debra Tate and Barbara Hoyt were allowed to represent Gary Hinman's family at Bruce's parole hearing that I decided to write to Davis' attorney and tell him what I knew about Gary's family. See the email I sent him below. He wrote back that because the Governor did not overrule the parole board on anything to do with Tate and Hoyt's being at the hearing it would not be grounds for an appeal. But he was very interested in what I sent him. He does not like Tate and Hoyt any more than you or I like them. He said that he would certainly use the info for the next hearing in mid 2014 particularly if the DA's office trots those two out again.
Beckman and I exchanged a couple of emails and then asked me what I knew about Tate and Hoyt, if I could dig up anything on them. I was able to find some stuff on Hoyt, she has had numerous civil cases against her in Idaho where she lives. They are all because she owed money she didn't pay, had her wages garnished etc. She's a huge deadbeat.
I am so incensed that Debra Tate and Barbara Hoyt were allowed to represent Gary Hinman's family at Bruce's parole hearing that I decided to write to Davis' attorney and tell him what I knew about Gary's family. See the email I sent him below. He wrote back that because the Governor did not overrule the parole board on anything to do with Tate and Hoyt's being at the hearing it would not be grounds for an appeal. But he was very interested in what I sent him. He does not like Tate and Hoyt any more than you or I like them. He said that he would certainly use the info for the next hearing in mid 2014 particularly if the DA's office trots those two out again.
Beckman and I exchanged a couple of emails and then asked me what I knew about Tate and Hoyt, if I could dig up anything on them. I was able to find some stuff on Hoyt, she has had numerous civil cases against her in Idaho where she lives. They are all because she owed money she didn't pay, had her wages garnished etc. She's a huge deadbeat.
I will send you what I found on Hoyt in another email.
What
doubly pisses me off is that the LA DA's office is the instigator in
having Tate and Hoyt at that hearing. They knew damn well how Gary's
sister felt about things!
Name Redacted
From: NameRedacted
To: Lawyer who still Uses Aol for emails
Subject: Bruce Davis/ Gary Hinman Relatives
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:12 -0800
Mr. Beckman
I am writing you in regards to the victim witness situation for Bruce Davis's last parole hearing. There were two people who spoke on behalf of the Hinman family, one of those persons was Debra Tate who was supposedly there for a first cousin of Gary Hinman. The reason it was claimed for a cousin submitting a statement was that no one else was alive. This is simply not true! Both of Gary Hinman's sisters are still alive.
I am attaching a number of things to support this fact. First is Robert Hinman's, Gary's father, obituary naming his survivors. (the first two daughters in his obituary are Gary's sisters, the second two daughters are Robert's step daughters, his second wife's children from a previous marriage. Gary's mother died a few months after he did, Robert remarried after that.)
Second and third attachments are Been Verified reports on both of the sisters. I have done social security death index searches on both women and neither of them are listed as having died. Barbara Jean Hinman apparently has some competency issues as I found a law case where this was discussed. It was a case about an easement issue involving sister Carole as well.
http://co.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.19890706_0040310.CO.htm/qx
I also found something regarding Carole Hinman Romberg and her feelings on testifying at a parole hearing for Bobby Beausoleil. She had moved on and did not wish to be involved any longer, according to her daughter who answered the request from the LA County DA's office informing Carole of her right to speak at the hearing. I'm pretty sure you would be able figure out which of Carole's daughters answered the request from the DA's office from the pdf with Carole's info. The parole hearing of Beausoleil's is at this link and is on page 86 of the document. It is Beausoleil's 2010 hearing if the link does not work.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:STuHfjpmNREJ:www.cielodrive.com/transcripts/BobbyBeausoleil2010Parole.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjIbD891_X1O22-W1Tue2D7K5qjHFmcEVEtv73Wduaqn1XVBLmWqj1zjnQliYHUAaeS4hYTC4SLwOWm_fyhCACY091YakLlZmJ_-m7qOzb4GTXFqmNEX4F92LF1ZlWCXcXD1SGu&sig=AHIEtbR2j6Qa4Zoiab61A87CFygkWwjdfQ
I also have some information about some of Gary Hinman's first cousins on his mothers side of the family. None of the first cousins names match the names of the people being represented by Debra Tate and the other person. This is an obituary for Gary's aunt.
http://www.postindependent.com/article/20021011/OBITUARIES/210100028
Gary's father had one sister, Margaret Elizabeth Hinman, her married name was Chapman. She was born in 1903 in Colorado and died in 1991 in California, where she had lived for decades. Below are the death index records for her. I believe her husband's first name was Hilton, although I am not entirely certain of that. I did find a death record for a Hilton Chapman who was from Colorado and died in California in 1963. Margaret Hinman Chapman got her social security number in 1963 in California, so that kind of fits.
I was able to locate a 1940 census record for Margaret and Hilton Chapman. They lived Colorado in that census. There were no children listed on that census report. If the person claiming to be a first cousin named Kay Martley was Margaret's daughter she should have been on that census as Kay Martley is 75 years old. See fourth attachment.
I am not a forensic genaologist so can not guarantee total accuracy of all this information but I am experienced with doing this type of research. I would suggest that you have someone else blindly try to replicate what I have learned for verification. There should be grounds for an appeal I would think.
Respectfully
Name Redacted
--------------------------
Therein follows much information about legal claims against Barbara Hoyt (Clayborn) who does appear to have problems paying her bills. Too bad the book with Nellie/Molesto never panned out!
Anyway, The DA needs to address this. Are these two attention seeking, burger inhaling, father ashes hoarding beached whales lying to the government? Since when do the wishes of a first cousin trump the wishes of a sister?
California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Margaret Elizabeth Chapman
| Name: | Margaret Elizabeth Chapman [Margaret Elizabeth Hinman] |
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| Social Security #: | 568720473 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Birth Date: | 10 Sep 1903 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Birth Place: | Colorado | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Death Date: | 31 May 1991 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Death Place: | Alameda | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Mother's Maiden Name: | Richards | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Father's Surname: | HinmanSocial Security Death Index about Margaret E. Chapman
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Tuesday, August 14, 2012
The Lie Detector Game

Earlier this year, noted homophobe and idiot Robin Olson dictated a posting to Orca Tate attacking the wonderful and poignant book RESTLESS SOULS. It remains on their website.
In it Debra offered to pay for a lie detector test and she wanted Alisa Statman to answer SEVENTEEN questions under the test. These were:
1. Before moving into the guesthouse at Cielo, did you express to others your intent to write about my sister Sharon’s murder?2. Did you begin working on or researching a book about my sister Sharon’s murder before you met Patti?3. Is it true that you used the photographs you stole from Lieutenant Earl Deemer’s collection to meet my sister Patti?4. Did you ever meet my mom Doris Gwen Tate?5. Would you swear that the statement in the book as to how it came about is absolutely accurate?6. Is every word in the book attributed to Patti exactly what she herself said or wrote?7. Did you use any of the materials written and prepared by Robin Olson for Patti’s book in this book?8. Did you change, alter, or add anything to my dad’s unpublished manuscript prior to publication?9. Did you change, alter, or add anything to my mom’s unpublished manuscript prior to publication?10. Can you provide independent corroboration to verify the many verbatim conversations given in the book between people now deceased?11. Can you provide independent corroboration to verify the account of my sister Sharon’s murder appearing in your book?12. Did my dad order you to turn over to me all Tate family materials left in the Palos Verdes house?13. Did you turn over to my dad or to me, as requested, all Tate family materials in the Palos Verdes house?14. Did you deny to me that such Tate family materials remained in the Palos Verdes house?15. Did you sign statements at Holy Cross Cemetery describing yourself as a Tate “stepsister?”16. Did you tell authorities at Holy Cross Cemetery that you had obtained Roman Polanski’s permission to open Sharon’s grave?17. Did you try to have legislation passed in California that would allow you, as a non-relative, to attend parole hearings for convicted members of the Manson family?Orca/Olson also added for a final flourish-"I would be happy to make arrangements for such a polygraph test at Ms. Statman’s convenience."But of course why the hell would Alisa do that? For no give back? No tit for tat?However, being the all amazing Col that I am, I have actually contacted the NUMBER ONE Polygraph guy in Los Angeles County. The guy that if you pass, the police even leave you alone and find another suspect. He's the TOP guy people.And I'll pay for him.But Alisa doesn't just answer Orca's questions. Orca answers MY questions.Here's my SEVENTEEN random questions for Orca to answer-1- What legal rights can you prove to your sister’s name or estate?
2- Where are your father's ashes and why have you denied his grandchildren the right to have a final resting place where not just you, but the entire family might be able to visit PJ?
3- Do you deny that your father requested that Alisa Statman represent him at the parole hearings following Patti's death? Do you deny that he sent a letter to the board of prison terms making this request and that it was to be placed in a file for all future hearings?
4- Why were you photographed frolicking naked at 16 with known drug dealers on the Cielo Drive House lawn long before the murders?
5- Why when your sister Patti was dying of breast cancer did you pretend to have scheduled an appointment with a cancer specialist in Duke University only to have her fly out there and find out that you never did any such thing?
6- What was the point when, after arranging #5 above so that you got your sister out of the house, you showed up screaming at your father's girlfriend that you wanted your “share” of the jewels and then proceeded to tear the house apart looking for said jewels while your father (at the same time) lay in the veterans' hospital recuperating from surgery?
7- As the last surviving direct member of the Tate Family, what exactly were you left in your father’s will?
8- Your daughter Arieanna has mutilated her body with excessive tattoos and piercings. One poster on the internet claims she has been a prostitute. What did you do to this girl to make her hate herself so much?
9- Why do you have such a close friendship with Robin Olson who is a pathological homophobe when your own sister was at least bisexual?
10- What was your relationship with your father for the last ten years of his life?
11- Why did you harass your father’s girlfriend (also called Doris) after his death?
12- You continue to claim that you were injured by a mail bomb. Can you offer proof of this bombing, a police report, FBI report, ATF report, or at least hospital records to prove it ever happened?
13- When was the last time you saw any of Patti’s kids face to face?
14- Have you told Stephen Kay anything truthful?
15 - Why do you think Samantha Geimer had it coming?
16- Were you really robbed of Sharon's possessions as you stated on the record last year Did you? file a police report? You said you knew who did it, was anyone ever arrested?
17- What is your legal claim to Sharon's Wedding Dress?
So there you go people. It's a fair deal. Debra or your rep can contact me via my magic email.Who wants to bet if I get a reply?
Monday, June 11, 2012
Robin's Imaginary Friend Patti
Yeah yeah I've been away again. The radiation is over in two weeks. I'll try to care more about this case after that, okay? Besides I don't think I've missed much right? BUG didn't shoot himself and leave a note screaming that Junior's real father was the milkman and that Charlie couldn't really stop watches just by looking at them, right?
So Robin Olsen tried to attack the brilliant Statman book, and failed as all evil doers must fail. Her homophobia and delusions did not carry the day.
I am pretty sure that Danielle in the comments is really Robin. She writes a certain way. Piece of shit cow even started trying to write bad reviews of the book over at Amazon. Ignorance sounds the same no matter what you call yourself. Bitch can't help it.
Danielle in the comments writes-
Danielle said...
It's interesting how people hide behind phrases such as "it's just my opinion" ... the newspapers that printed salacious material about the Cielo murder victims probably tried to justify their actions with the same cop-out when they printed crap about Sharon being into orgies etc.
Marliese, I respect that you don't want to answer my hypothetical but this proves my point.
Did Debra choose to have her life unravel publicly when her sister and nephew were slaughtered? Or when her parents retreated into grief, leaving young sisters to deal with the unimaginable trauma in their own ways?
Her family had the misfortune of not only having a loved one murdered in a cruel and heinous manner, but having the entire ordeal played out in public.
And yet you and others judge and condemn on a forum that calls one of those sisters revolting names that would make her parents turn in their graves, and provides details of the other sisters' funeral arrangements (Patti's) alongside pictures of a naked woman giving oral sex. Classy.
You participate in such a forum and pass judgment on someone you admittedly don't know now and didn't know back then, while simultaneously being "offended" that your own credentials in grief and suffering are called into question?
I'm sure you'll find ways to rationalize this.
------------Marliese, I respect that you don't want to answer my hypothetical but this proves my point.
Did Debra choose to have her life unravel publicly when her sister and nephew were slaughtered? Or when her parents retreated into grief, leaving young sisters to deal with the unimaginable trauma in their own ways?
Her family had the misfortune of not only having a loved one murdered in a cruel and heinous manner, but having the entire ordeal played out in public.
And yet you and others judge and condemn on a forum that calls one of those sisters revolting names that would make her parents turn in their graves, and provides details of the other sisters' funeral arrangements (Patti's) alongside pictures of a naked woman giving oral sex. Classy.
You participate in such a forum and pass judgment on someone you admittedly don't know now and didn't know back then, while simultaneously being "offended" that your own credentials in grief and suffering are called into question?
I'm sure you'll find ways to rationalize this.
Sigh. Robin, you can only keep provoking for so long before Karma smacks you on that huge ass and you go down hard, a victim of your own stupidity. But let's respond because I have a brain, I am the Col and The Wizard of Speed and Time and I know my shit.
I'll be in blue.
Danielle said...
It's interesting how people hide behind phrases such as "it's just my opinion" ... the newspapers that printed salacious material about the Cielo murder victims probably tried to justify their actions with the same cop-out when they printed crap about Sharon being into orgies etc. Actually you cannot point to a single newspaper that said it was just their opinion, Moron. They may have reported OTHER PEOPLE'S reports and opinions but that is what reporting is, printing what you are told. And the victims WERE into drugs and they WERE into Kinky Sex. Not all of them into both mind you but it isn't like it was just pulled out of the fucking sky.
Marliese, I respect that you don't want to answer my hypothetical but this proves my point.You don't have a point, bitch. You are asking Marliese in an earlier question about what she would do if she had been a victim with no evidence that she ever has been a victim. You don't phrase anything as a hypothetical so your argument is specious and stupid, just like you.
Did Debra choose to have her life unravel publicly when her sister and nephew were slaughtered? Did 17 year old Debra choose to frolic fully nude at Cielo Drive with major drug dealers who were the first suspects of the slaughter of her sister? The Tates couldn't have minded nudity, Sharon did plenty, but did 25 year old Debra do shitty tasteless nudity in order to attract attention by promoting the spread as Dead Sharon's little Sister? Did 30 something Debra try to shut down websites by falsely and illegally claiming she owns Sharon's Likeness? Did 40 Something Debra break into her mother's house looking for expensive jewelery that she wanted badly? Look, what happened to the family in 1969 SUCKED BEYOND COMPARE. Yet Debra Tate ends up DISOWNED and DISINHERITED. If in 1979 you told me she was in daily therapy and making progress I would feel for her. But it is 2012 and Orca lies flagrantly, attacks her own niece and then refuses to bury her father because he hated her. It was 43 years ago- grow the fuck up.
Or when her parents retreated into grief, leaving young sisters to deal with the unimaginable trauma in their own ways?I wonder what the father's trauma was like when he found all those full muff shots of underage Orca with Pic Dawson.
Her family had the misfortune of not only having a loved one murdered in a cruel and heinous manner, but having the entire ordeal played out in public.Life can suck. And you can respond like a classy Doris and a classy Patti or an uncouth, full of shit Orca. And if you go the Orca route, expect people to call you on it.
And yet you and others judge and condemn on a forum that calls one of those sisters revolting names I'll have you know that Orca is a very well liked and grand creaturethat would make her parents turn in their graves,Fuck You You Stupid WHORE Her father cannot turn in any grave because stupid fat whale probably has his ashes in her spare toilet where she talks to him once a week. and provides details of the other sisters' funeral arrangements (Patti's) This was done because Olsen (you) and Orca both lied about what Statman did. Provable and completely LIED. alongside pictures of a naked woman giving oral sex. Classy. You know I truthfully didn't look at that picture at the time- I thought she was taking a dump. I will go find a classy dump picture and use it this time.
You participate in such a forum and pass judgment on someone you admittedly don't know now and didn't know back then, while simultaneously being "offended" that your own credentials in grief and suffering are called into question? Except she didn't do anything of the kind. She wasn't offended, she told you you were wrong. You are.
I'm sure you'll find ways to rationalize this.
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Look I am tired. You want to know what Debra Tate's problem was/is? Ask Jan Brady.
Debra wanted to be Sharon. Sharon was pretty, famous and got all the attention. Debra wasn't close to her beauty, but she showed full bush with the headline "Sharon's Little sister" so that someone might compare her. She wants fame which is why she goes to Leslie's hearings, Lesie who didn't do shit to her family. It isn't that hard to see this, why do people act like it isn't sad but TRUE.
Yes I hate Orca Tate. HATE. Because it is all just a sideshow, number 4,326 in a story with too many sideshows. I want to know why the people at Cielo and Waverly were murdered. That is what this blog is for. MAYBE Debra hanging with Pic and friends means something. Everything else, who cares?? I don't care about a 35 year old porn spread, and I don't care about anything she says because she is a liar who was disowned by her family. This is a sideshow people. We are doing exactly what the Bug wants us to do- ignore our mission.
Back to work.
Friday, April 20, 2012
People Ask Us Shit
We get questions and we give answers when we feel like it
1- Listen yeah sure whatever how can you call the Helter Skelter theory insane?
A- Because it didn't even exist except in the masturbatory fantasies of BUG. It isn't a real thing. They didn't try to link it to Blacks. Not a single cop ever thought it was Blacks. It just wasn't real. I could talk to your 20 friends and take snippets of bullshit you said when you were high and state that you enjoyed armadillo sex and wanted to take over Navajo Territory but that don't make it sane or true. I have talked to the attorneys who were in charge before Bug wandered in. This theory was invented by the BUG. As he points out in the novel, he didn't HAVE to prove motive but it would be easier to get a conviction if he did. HE WANTED CHARLIE. Think about it- without Charlie some drug addled hippies killed some famous people. But with HS, we have a demonic guru. Spare me.
2- Hey why you be hating on Debra Tate? Didn't she suffer enough?
Debra Tate did in fact suffer and I believe the suffering put her off the rails. She always suffered from middle child syndrome (see: Jan Brady) and was never going to be as pretty as Patti or god help us Sharon. She was never going to be famous, Oui pull out or not. We all suffer in our own ways. Debra's way was to act out, against the world, against the family. It is very Miss Haversham. I am sure she talks to Sharon regularly and maybe even tries on parts of her clothing (she couldn't fit in a dress). Debra is to be pitied. EXCEPT
She illegally operates as if she owns Sharon when in fact legally those rights were left to others.
She continues to do interviews full of lies, muddying the waters for the truth.
She continues to wrongly hold her father's ashes hostage from his burial place next to his wife and daughters.
She is friends with Robin Olsen.
All of this makes her someone to be exposed, mocked and avoided.
3- How could Alisa Statman sully the Tate Family Legacy?
Did you read the book, bitches? No one has written anything that comes close to revealing the heartache they suffered and their reactions. Alisa didn't include Debra because she hadn't been part of the Tates for years.
4- Why did Charlie get a 15 year denial?
Cause homey don't give a shit.
5- What happened to my House Painter?
I don't know.
6- I thought you were getting profiled by some lady from the Chicago Sun-Times. What happened?
I really don't know. I took a long time, I gathered a friend, and gave her the tour of a lifetime. But no article.
Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Two Whales Consume a Lot of Plankton
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Apr 15, 7:39 PM EDT
Women linked by Manson murders form odd friendship
By TRACIE CONE
CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) -- On August 9, 1969, two naive 17-year-old girls were launched on a path that led to the unlikeliest of friendships.
That infamous night, four young people under the sway of a charismatic career criminal slipped into a neighborhood of Hollywood glitterati, then bludgeoned and stabbed rising young actress Sharon Tate, coffee heiress Abigail Folger and three others. Across town the next night, the band killed again.
The name Charles Manson quickly became a synonym for unimaginable evil, which nobody knows better than Debra Tate, Sharon's little sister, and Barbara Hoyt, the Manson family member whose testimony helped put the killers in prison.
"We've got a lot in common," said Hoyt, now a retired nurse. "She has been a big help to me."
"She makes sure I am holding my head up high," Tate said, "and I do the same for her."
Now both about 60, a Manson family member and the last living Tate family member have bonded in their long quest to keep those responsible behind bars. Both have testified repeatedly at Manson's parole hearings. Both say they still get threats from the cult killer's supporters - mostly white supremacists enamored with murders Manson orchestrated to incite a race war dubbed "Helter Skelter."
Even now not a day passes without Hoyt dwelling on the suffering Manson and her former comrades inflicted and on the widespread terror that ensued.
"We are completely linked by this event whether we want to be or not," she said of Debra Tate, who now runs a crime victims group. "She understands me, and I understand where she's coming from."
Hoyt never committed a crime for Manson, and her testimony helped send the cult leader and four followers to death row in 1971. The following year, when the California Supreme Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional, their new life terms made them eligible for a while for annual parole consideration.
That is when the lives of Barbara Hoyt and Debra Tate began to intertwine. Over the decades, each as written letters to parole panels urging that the killers never be released, and each has traveled to obscure California farming towns for parole hearings in prisons housing some of the state's most notorious convicts.
At first Hoyt testified partly out of fear that the killers would seek revenge if released. But after becoming a registered nurse, she realized that the psychological and emotional pain of having to relive her involvement with the cult was another part of her payback to society.
"It's a descent into hell and then having to climb back out again," Hoyt said. "I think about it and I feel I was simply there to be a witness, because that has been my role. God gave me that role, and that's my reality."

Meanwhile Tate's late mother, Doris, had become the driving force for victims' rights in California and was instrumental in a 1982 law that allows family members to testify about their losses at trials and parole hearings.
When Doris died, that left her daughters Debra and Patti to carry on with her work. Patti died of breast cancer in 2000, leaving Debra, disabled from a postal service accident, to go it alone.
"Over time our mutual efforts brought us together," Hoyt said.
Now they talk regularly on the phone and get together when they're in the same town, usually for a parole hearing. Tate lives in the Southern California desert, and Hoyt in the Pacific Northwest, the specific location she wants to keep secret.
Trapped in drab institutional waiting rooms, they realized they were the same age and shared similar middle-class upbringings. Both were divorced mothers who raised daughters on their own. In 2006, when Manson associate Bruce Davis was up for parole for another murder Manson had orchestrated, the two had time to talk.
"I discovered that I really like Barbara," said Tate, who now works for victims' rights through her website http://www.sharontate.net . "She is a good person. She has a good soul and a good spirit and she has come through for us when it was very iffy whether these core members were going to get out."
As the friendship developed, Tate realized that Barbara has suffered from the murders as much as she had. "She flew under such a horrible social stigma for so long," Tate said. "For Barbara to have suffered the same stigma as those other sociopaths, well it just wasn't right."
Hoyt didn't appear Wednesday for the 77-year-old Manson's 12th and probably final parole hearing because she knew the prospects were virtually nil that the state would release such a notorious killer.
That left Tate alone to listen anew to the gory details of her sister's death, her hands tightly clasped, her lips pursed and her foot tapping.
They will be together again in June when Davis comes back up for a hearing at the California Men's Colony near San Luis Obispo. The parole board found him suitable for release in 2010, but then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger overruled the decision.
"We have been involved in this case since we were teenagers," Tate said. "Even if we could let go, the world would never let it go."
Both are adamant they will maintain the fight to keep all of them behind bars. Even though it is unlikely Manson's core group will ever be let go, they hope their resolve inspires other victims of crime.
"Both of us have been attacked by websites, viciously attacked over many, many years," Hoyt said. "I'd like to be an example to anyone who is ever a witness to a crime to come forward and be brave. Evil can be stopped, but it's up to us as people to do it."
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Orca- If the world would never let it go that means you could comfortably do so.
Orcette- Why have you been attacked? Because your Shorty Shea testimony is a complete lie based on the facts you present. Because your need for attention is on par with your need for curly fries. Because attention cannot fill the emptiness in your heart.
Hey is BUG going for her vagina with his left hand? Does he think she is his mailman's wife?
Looking at Kay's glasses do you think that guy EVER got laid?
Apr 15, 7:39 PM EDT
Women linked by Manson murders form odd friendship
By TRACIE CONE
CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) -- On August 9, 1969, two naive 17-year-old girls were launched on a path that led to the unlikeliest of friendships.
That infamous night, four young people under the sway of a charismatic career criminal slipped into a neighborhood of Hollywood glitterati, then bludgeoned and stabbed rising young actress Sharon Tate, coffee heiress Abigail Folger and three others. Across town the next night, the band killed again.
The name Charles Manson quickly became a synonym for unimaginable evil, which nobody knows better than Debra Tate, Sharon's little sister, and Barbara Hoyt, the Manson family member whose testimony helped put the killers in prison.
"We've got a lot in common," said Hoyt, now a retired nurse. "She has been a big help to me."
"She makes sure I am holding my head up high," Tate said, "and I do the same for her."
Now both about 60, a Manson family member and the last living Tate family member have bonded in their long quest to keep those responsible behind bars. Both have testified repeatedly at Manson's parole hearings. Both say they still get threats from the cult killer's supporters - mostly white supremacists enamored with murders Manson orchestrated to incite a race war dubbed "Helter Skelter."
Even now not a day passes without Hoyt dwelling on the suffering Manson and her former comrades inflicted and on the widespread terror that ensued.
"We are completely linked by this event whether we want to be or not," she said of Debra Tate, who now runs a crime victims group. "She understands me, and I understand where she's coming from."
Hoyt never committed a crime for Manson, and her testimony helped send the cult leader and four followers to death row in 1971. The following year, when the California Supreme Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional, their new life terms made them eligible for a while for annual parole consideration.
That is when the lives of Barbara Hoyt and Debra Tate began to intertwine. Over the decades, each as written letters to parole panels urging that the killers never be released, and each has traveled to obscure California farming towns for parole hearings in prisons housing some of the state's most notorious convicts.
At first Hoyt testified partly out of fear that the killers would seek revenge if released. But after becoming a registered nurse, she realized that the psychological and emotional pain of having to relive her involvement with the cult was another part of her payback to society.
"It's a descent into hell and then having to climb back out again," Hoyt said. "I think about it and I feel I was simply there to be a witness, because that has been my role. God gave me that role, and that's my reality."
Meanwhile Tate's late mother, Doris, had become the driving force for victims' rights in California and was instrumental in a 1982 law that allows family members to testify about their losses at trials and parole hearings.
When Doris died, that left her daughters Debra and Patti to carry on with her work. Patti died of breast cancer in 2000, leaving Debra, disabled from a postal service accident, to go it alone.
"Over time our mutual efforts brought us together," Hoyt said.
Now they talk regularly on the phone and get together when they're in the same town, usually for a parole hearing. Tate lives in the Southern California desert, and Hoyt in the Pacific Northwest, the specific location she wants to keep secret.
Trapped in drab institutional waiting rooms, they realized they were the same age and shared similar middle-class upbringings. Both were divorced mothers who raised daughters on their own. In 2006, when Manson associate Bruce Davis was up for parole for another murder Manson had orchestrated, the two had time to talk.
"I discovered that I really like Barbara," said Tate, who now works for victims' rights through her website http://www.sharontate.net . "She is a good person. She has a good soul and a good spirit and she has come through for us when it was very iffy whether these core members were going to get out."
As the friendship developed, Tate realized that Barbara has suffered from the murders as much as she had. "She flew under such a horrible social stigma for so long," Tate said. "For Barbara to have suffered the same stigma as those other sociopaths, well it just wasn't right."
Hoyt didn't appear Wednesday for the 77-year-old Manson's 12th and probably final parole hearing because she knew the prospects were virtually nil that the state would release such a notorious killer.
That left Tate alone to listen anew to the gory details of her sister's death, her hands tightly clasped, her lips pursed and her foot tapping.
They will be together again in June when Davis comes back up for a hearing at the California Men's Colony near San Luis Obispo. The parole board found him suitable for release in 2010, but then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger overruled the decision.
"We have been involved in this case since we were teenagers," Tate said. "Even if we could let go, the world would never let it go."
Both are adamant they will maintain the fight to keep all of them behind bars. Even though it is unlikely Manson's core group will ever be let go, they hope their resolve inspires other victims of crime.
"Both of us have been attacked by websites, viciously attacked over many, many years," Hoyt said. "I'd like to be an example to anyone who is ever a witness to a crime to come forward and be brave. Evil can be stopped, but it's up to us as people to do it."
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Orca- If the world would never let it go that means you could comfortably do so.
Orcette- Why have you been attacked? Because your Shorty Shea testimony is a complete lie based on the facts you present. Because your need for attention is on par with your need for curly fries. Because attention cannot fill the emptiness in your heart.
Hey is BUG going for her vagina with his left hand? Does he think she is his mailman's wife?
Looking at Kay's glasses do you think that guy EVER got laid?
Friday, April 13, 2012
But Where Will Orca Go if No More Hearings?
--- I love that she is worried about Charlie's afterlife
--- She went the full tranny look for this interview- good for her!
--- Voice...does she smoke two packs a day or something?
--- Yup I am certain that Charlie didn't show because he didn't want to become ORCA BAIT!
--- She went the full tranny look for this interview- good for her!
--- Voice...does she smoke two packs a day or something?
--- Yup I am certain that Charlie didn't show because he didn't want to become ORCA BAIT!
Saturday, March 31, 2012
Girl Who Stirred the Cream Cheese Pot
But this Living Example of Human Failure Robin Olsen didn't stop with rampant homophobia, she didn't stop with lies about the family on the eve of a burial. It was important to her that Statman personally knew how much she hated her. Because Robin Olsen "matters" godddammit just ask her. She matters. Her marriage isn't an empty dry husk like her vajayjay. Her life is not a waste of sperm. SHE MATTERS.
After all as she wrote Col Tate I WAS PATTI'S BEST FRIEND I REALLY WAS NOT JUST FOR MINUTE BUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS SHE WANTED ME TO HAVE THE KIDS NOT SOME UNSEEMLY DYKE SO I COULD BRING THEM UP TO BE COOL LIKE ME AND LOVE EVERYONE EXCEPT HOMOS.
I have a ton of this shit but I might be done. This is a sick, evil woman who should be shunned by mankind. I feel super unwell even reading it. At least is Orca's case her big famous sister was in fact murdered. She did in fact get herself disowned by the family. She has logical explanations for her mental illness that I can follow. Robin is just a demon, IMO .
Saturday, March 24, 2012
The Girl Who Played With Feces
So we want more evidence of the sickness of Robin Olsen?
One year after the death of his daughter Patti, Paul Tate receives this deranged hard to follow letter from Robin.
It basically says two things-
"I was Patti's bff, her bestie, her #1, I swear!!!!"
"An evil lesbian has tried to steal your grandchildren."
The level of sheer homophobia in this is so pathetic. These need to be shared with people that employ Olsen, if anyone is dumb enough. They need to see just how withered her soul is.
Oh yeah, Col Tate threw this out.
Saturday, March 17, 2012
The Girl with the Twisted Tattoo
Robin Olsen, a pathetic human being in my opinion, is determined to attack the beautiful book RESTLESS SOULS because she fears it will undermine the book about her imaginary friend Patti Tate that she will never write.
In so doing she has leveled charges against the book that are provably false, and gone to Hometown Buffet to rile up Orca Tate about the book, leading to more pointless drivel.
I'll address whatever bullshit I feel like when I feel like it because that is how he Col Rolls!
**** Robin/ Orca sound off about Patti being buried in the Tate plot. They make it sound like some sort of Lesbian Bake Off that allowed Patti to be buried next to her mom and sister. Actually Alisa did the only thing that mattered- she got Roman's permission since he had bought the damn plot for wife and son. She did,in fact, Orca, pretend to be a member of the Tate Family since homophobic laws back then would have prevented her from overseeing burial of her partner.
So there we go, one moronically false comment debunked. I've posted the original burial forms and Polanski's letter.
Trust nothing that these two losers say.
Saturday, March 10, 2012
Fighting Cretins with Soy Sauce
I was working on two pointed posts for you all
One was about Winifred Chapman. In the brilliant new book Restless Souls I learned she had been with Sharon and Roman before Cielo. It got me thinking how terrible that morning must have been for her.
The second was a work of art called "The Ballad of NotSharon", about a member of the Tate Family who wanted attention that went to her much more beautiful sister.
Then Robin Olsen, maybe acting on behalf of Debra Tate (maybe not, I had heard that Debra had wised up to Robin's craziness) started posting releases on the bullshit website that only her dogs read.
This is gonna take all weekend, fixing her lies and bullshit. Shit and I had a Mani/Pedi all set.
But for now, while you try to wade through this, use logic
-Debra Tate was disowned by her Family
-Patti Tate's legal wishes were for her children to be raised by Alisa Statman, NOT her own sister.
- Gruff Paul Tate was happy for his grandchildren to be raised by Alisa Statman
- Paul Tate didn't want his daughter to get any family items so he sold the Family home to ALisa Statman.
- Patti's own daughter is stating that she doesn't know her aunt AT ALL.
Use logic. This is insanity from Olsen with attention seeking from Debra. Nothing more. The book remains amazingly moving.
Robin and friends (if any)- You have declared war. That's fine. Nelson did that and he was ruined and died alone.
Here's what's next for Robin /Deb- if you don't know what I mean dear readers, they do-
-- The full report made by Debra and Robin to Paul to try to get Alisa removed from the Family. A more hateful work of homophobia have I never seen. It is subhuman. Both ladies are scum.
-- The permission from Roman Polanski TO Alisa Statman allowing Patti's Burial at Holy Cross
--The history of Robin Olsen's stalking of Paul Tate and attempts to attack ALisa.
-- News of pending litigation to remove Debra's false filings claiming ANY ownership of her sister, along with research into possible criminal allegations
--Revelation that Paul Tate wanted Statman to speak in his place at the Parole Hearings- NOT his daughter.
It's all coming Robin /Deb. You had to attack a very good book that really did honor your family because they refused to force you into it somehow. Have fun with your lifelong "trough" pass to Hometown Buffet. We are gonna fill you not with buttermilk but with truth. We will answer your "lie detector test" questions and present a bunch of questions we have for you to answer.
Ready. Set. Here we come Orca.
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Vera Dreiser is Robin Olsen. Robin Olsen is a cunt. A liar. Psycho. A filthmonger. And she makes bad sandwiches. Now the Bible says something about Cunts- I am not sure what. Over here , cunts may still post but under their real names. So Vera may either use the handle Robin Olsen, or just plain Cunt. Anything posted under Vera Dreiser will be deleted or ignored. I am asking the support of the evilliz people, which has turned into a fine place to go, and I know I have Cats' support. The inbreds at Lynyrd Skynyrd are too inebriated to follow this shit anyway.
Act unconcerned Robin Olsen, your shit has real world consequences.
Saturday, February 25, 2012
Col Scott Knows No Wrong

I am frequently attacked by fucking idiots who believe shit that Greg King, Unofficial Sharon Tate biographer says.
I am frequently told by fans (ewww) of Debra that I am lying about her stealing her father's ashes and mixing them with sour cream.
I just finished my latest read of the Statman book, the final draft.
You're welcome.
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The book is riveting and informative, the best book on the subject in over a decade.
Since I, The Col, The proprietor of the ONLY Official Blog on the case, have frequently crossed paths with Greg King, a self righteous phony who studied under convicted pedophile Bill Nelson on THIS message board, let's quote what the Tate Family thought about his biography of SHaron--
E TV is researching their infamous special THE LAST DAYS OF SHARON TATE. A breast cancer diagnosis has made Patti cancel her interview.
"Perhaps if I'd been honest with the show's producers they would have been more sympathetic with my family. As it was they interviewed biographer Greg King, who unfairly portrayed my father as a frostbitten tyrant and Mom as a starstruck, meddling, conniving stage mother, pushing Sharon into the limelight.....Had I done the show no one would have heard Greg King's interpretation of my family. I could have balanced fact and fiction." Patti Tate
Greg likes to play aw shucks around here but for years now has called THE COL out on whether Deb Tate was disowned by her family, telling the Col he was wrong.
Screw you Greg.
"There is my Aunt Debra. Although she is my mothers sister, she is a far-removed Aunt. Never close with Mama, always at battle with her, I knew Debra less than I knew Aunt Sharon. ...What little I Knew about her firsthand was that she had taken my grandfather's ashes and to date had not given him a proper burial." Brie Tate, Sharon's niece/ blood relative
STFU Greg?
Friday, February 24, 2012
Orca Not All in the Family
I'm grouchy. I read the comments and readers who are loving the Statman book are going "Gee Whillikers a whole book about the Tate Family and Orca is only mentioned three or four times what is that about?"
Is this the first post of mine you ever read? I've been here for fucking years already. DEBRA TATE WAS DISOWNED BY HER FAMILY TILL THE VERY END.
There. English.
She is not included in the wills. She was not left the family house (that was actually Statman). She was disowned and disinherited. This is a fact people. This isn't a mystery.
WHY she was treated thus is not certain. Speculation wonders if it was her relationship with her sister's suspected killer Pic Dawson. Her full nude OUI magazine photo shoot. Her need for attention. I don't know.
Like the ADD brat she is, when an incorrectly filled out document led to PJ Tate's ashes being delivered to her, Debra refused to allow the family to bury them according to his wishes. She still has the urn, and God knows what she says to it.
Her nieces and nephews don't know her. Statman has no relationship with her. And so why WOULD she be in the book?
Monday, October 10, 2011
Commenters Comment and Matter Not
There seems to have been an explosion in the comments section of the previous post. A crazed cat lady that goes by the handle Vera Dreiser started attacking her betters by defending Orca Tate and thinking she could ever run logic rings around me, the Col. Then another fidjit named katie also starting defending Debra. Both mentally impaired posters then convinced themselves that they had "won" the argument. They did not. But in so doing they so confused everything that I feel the need to clarify the facts even though NONE OF THIS IS NEW.
1- Debra Tate was disowned by her family a long long time ago. I do NOT know why. I hear reports that Doris would chase her as a young girl around with Holy Water. Not sure which one of them is crazier in that case. She has NO relationship with any of the survivors of the Tate family. She was specifically and clearly disinherited from all wills that were ever drawn up. Again, I do NOT know why. I heard stories and have seen pictures of her at 16 nude with Pic Dawson at Cielo. There's a good reason. Trying to trade on her dead sister's name and posing for Oui, there's a good reason. I can offer a dozen more reasons. I don't know why she was disinherited but she was. Completely.
2- In retaliation for this Orca keeps the ashes of Col Tate someplace other than in the grave next to Doris where he wanted to be. This happened because Col Tate did not fill out a living health trust leaving the ashes to a more responsible party.
3- When Sharon died any publicity rights (which didn't come into being for another decade or so in California, but fine) went to Doris. When Doris died they went to Paul. When Paul died they went to a trust for Patti's kids and for Debra's poor child. Debra Tate does NOT own any rights to Sharon Tate's likeness, name or pictures.
4- Despite the 100% accuracy of #3 above, Debra Tate frequently goes around legally threatening people for using Sharon's name and likeness. This despite the fact that that she OWNS NOTHING.
5- Debra defended Polanski in his lawsuit against Vanity Fair. Fair enough, I think he was right. But in so doing she claimed that he treated Sharon very well and that she was not about to leave him. This is a false statement. Does she lie or again was she not involved in the Tate family even then?
6- Debra never had a moment alone with Charles Manson. She was not called by the police when Sharon was found. No part of her story of involvement is true.
7- Despite a false reading of the rules by Dreiser, you are not allowed to have unlimited people speak for the victims. This would become a free for all. Each family files a legal designated form with the Board. As the direct heir, Paul filed a form designating who is legally allowed to speak at the hearing. It is not his disowned daughter Orca. Now no one has ever enforced this designation. My post was only about hoping that someone would at the next hearing.
Personally I don't like Orca Tate. She is a liar, a bully and a fraud and not a very nice person. It does not sound, from stories I have heard, that she became that way because of her sister's killing. It sounds like she was always that way.
But I will not bow to the lunacy of cat ladies like Dreiser or mental midgets like katie. They are welcome to like Orca or NOT like Orca. They can comment or not comment. Personally they mean nothing to me. It is when they MAKE THINGS UP that they become a plague upon us all.
Wednesday, October 05, 2011
Orca Tate Dives for the Microphone Again
Here's an interesting fact one of the Debra worshippers can bring up next time they want to get their tongues up her voluminous buttcrack.
Debra Tate is not the designated victim's spokesperson for the Tate Family at Parole Hearings.
That's right. Not just anyone who says they are related to Sharon gets to show up and whine at Tex and Katie. Otherwise Rosie could bang on for an hour. The next of kin has to designate if they themselves are not coming who they want to speak there.
Up to this point, and after several grueling hours of Sea World training, Patrick Sequiera has become use to Orca. She says the right things and she claps for the tiny fish treats he gives her. Hell, he even let her speak at the Leslie hearing, although Leslie never even met old Sharon.
But while disinheriting Debra, Col. Tate, with one of his final breaths, made sure to stipulate who spoke at hearings for Sharon. And it was not his Oui photographed, mailman daughter.
The correct person has always chosen to let Orca have her say, although they have attended recent hearings themselves.
The Col hopes November 16th when Tex gets denied the CORRECT person speaks, and Orca gets sent back to the holding pen. Just maybe....
Thursday, September 01, 2011
The Sister From Hell
The problem with Debra Tate is she has made it impossible to separate the damage and suffering that was no doubt done to her by the slaughter of her sister from her opportunism and narcissistic desire to be in the spotlight. Her appearance at hearings and her need to make it all about her goes back to when she frolicked nude at Cielo with drug dealers and let it all hang out for Oui Magazine. Remember, she was SPECIFICALLY disinherited by her father.
Anyway, here's some more of "Me me me me."
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Sister of Sharon Tate Discusses Burglary
Good Day LA phoner video.
Video from: Good Day LA
Video from:
Good Day LA
Posted by: Tony Spearman | myFOXla.com
Los Angeles - On Thursday Debra Tate, the executor of her sister Sharon Tate's estate, talked to us about the recent burglary of her home. During the break-in Sharon's wedding dress, furs, and other items were stolen. Debra thinks she knows who was behind the theft but said she needs more proof.
Debra asked anyone with information on the robbery to contact her via www.sharontate.net , and she will forward any info to the police.
She is NOT The executor of the Sharon Tate estate.
Anyway, here's some more of "Me me me me."
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Sister of Sharon Tate Discusses Burglary
Good Day LA phoner video.
Video from: Good Day LA
Video from:
Good Day LA
Posted by: Tony Spearman | myFOXla.com
Los Angeles - On Thursday Debra Tate, the executor of her sister Sharon Tate's estate, talked to us about the recent burglary of her home. During the break-in Sharon's wedding dress, furs, and other items were stolen. Debra thinks she knows who was behind the theft but said she needs more proof.
Debra asked anyone with information on the robbery to contact her via www.sharontate.net , and she will forward any info to the police.
Sister of Sharon Tate Discusses Burglary: MyFoxLA.com
-------------She is NOT The executor of the Sharon Tate estate.
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Greg King Tells Lies
I read Greg King's book. It was overwritten but I liked it. It told more about Sharon than I knew so that made it a plus. I don't think it sold that well and that's a shame. Perhaps that is why he's having hunger flashes and flat out lying on line. He posted the following to findadeath- and KTS reposted it and sent it to me-
Originally Posted by Greg King
Man, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but...
Please don't believe all the garbage you see thrown around about Debra. Yeah, I have a personal bias here, but I can also guarantee I know more about her and her life than some anonymous internet source. Well Greg, I believe you know what she wants you to know, sure...
She's interested in fame? Hardly. She tries to stay out of things unless approached for interviews or to attend parole hearings or to try to stand up for the rights of victims. Otherwise her life is very quiet and secluded. Of course. That's why she's on television every two months over the last three years. They DRAG her. Sure. And why is she showing up at parole hearings that don't apply to her? Her mother and sister didn't. They didn't need the attention.
She lies about Sharon's murder? Again, nope. As I've said, Debra has never read anything about the murders and only knows what she hears from others or from rumor, just as with her mom. Yes, she has said some erroneous things but not maliciously but rather from genuine lack of knowledge, and she has no interest in reading accounts of her sister's murder or her autopsy report. Until a few years ago she didn't even know that Sharon's face had not been disfigured.Except some of the lies involve HER actions before, during and after the murders. How do you splain that one?
She was disinherited? Again, nope. I won't talk about the ins and outs here, but suffice it to say this is just plain wrong-and I DO know. Hey Greg- BZZZT- wrong answer. I've seen the will. Debra was disinherited. Her father never wanted to deal with her again. And spitefully, she refuses STILL to bury him. She doesn't even know Patti's kids. YOU DON'T KNOW so kindly STFU son you sound stupid.
Debra is one of the most amazing, genuine people I know, and no one posting crap about her has any idea, believe me, of her real life or experiences- not by a long shot. I know something about Pic Dawson and Deb's real life experiences, does that make me someone?
You can believe me or not, as is everyone's right, but you should consider just how much familiarity anonymous people on the internet asserting things about her have with the actual details of her life. Well I stand by the above points- you're welcome to refute them with facts Greg.
On the other hand, perhaps I should recall that Greg used Nelson as a primary source and even promoted his book on Nelli's site. That seems to say it all.
Thursday, December 18, 2008
Debra the Whale Flips Again
If you believe the evil Mark Turner whose site seldom gets updated anymore (and most of which is now inferior to the Bret site) Debra JUST found out that Bobby was having a parole hearing in a few days. Of course, Bret's site reported this weeks ago. It seems she wants the public, or at least some internet dicks, to write emails in a hurry saying he shouldn't be let go.
I mean what the fuck man?! Did Bobby do something to Sharon Tate that I missed? He was in a jail when TLB happened. Where does she get off stating this? Bitch was disinherited by her family and disowned because she was a lying psycho. She still refuses to bury her father's ashes as per his wishes. I think she takes them out and talks to them or some shit. From what I hear, Dad never forgave her when he learned she used to run around naked at the age of 16 with ~~~~, the drug dealing ~~~ in her sister's ~~~~. Is that why she was disowned? Why do Patti's kids never converse with their own Aunt? Doris and Patti never interfered in the parole hearings of people that didn't attack them. I used to goad crazy Jimmy about Leslie, but if one takes TLB as one event, well then Leslie was part of TLB. She just was. Bobby wasn't.
Now I'm not deluded. I wrote a letter of support for Bobby once. I like the guy. But I think he's probably screwed as a "Mansonite". I hope he gets out. But it isn't likely. So what is with this Debra shit anyway? More attention whoring?
Let me clarify some of this rant for a second. She can do whatever she wants. But I ask why? Why not focus on the right people? You lose the moral high ground when you attack EVERYONE. Not that she ever had any high ground to begin with.
I would be thrilled if Bobby got paroled. But there's zero chance. Go ahead Mark, write your letter.
What could it possibly say anyway? "Hi I run a site called Charliemanson.com. If Bobby Beausoleil gets out he might come after me for some of the shit I wrote about him. Please keep him locked up. I am 1/3547th Hinman by marriage. Thank you." I mean sheeeit!
[just in case anyone cares, the preceding is my constitutionally protected fucking opinion. Maybe everything above is just bullshit. Take it seriously. Or not. But ever since Adam Gabriel's lawyer-by-night threatened to sue me for the truth back in June, I gots to be careful. People can't read very well.]
Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Debra's Work
Thanks Bret for this interview- I was in Mexico on the Beach and missed this Bitch talking.
Observations:
1- Why does she outright lie about how she heard about Sharon's murder? "Wayne" has nothing to do with it.
2- Is NBC willing to buy her Bullshit wholesale? DEBRA- you MOM and DAD disinherited you. Stop speaking for them.
This isn't TOO bad- but it is more of the attention grabbing Debra that we have had as of late.
Bye the way, Monkeyboy, she is talking about Steven Kay who enlisted Doris to fight the release of that murdering whole Leslie Van Houten!
Monday, June 16, 2008
Pants on Fire
Give a hoot? Don't slash throats!
(anyone hear Jim from NY squawking in the background in his cave? Leslie! Leslie! Squawk!)
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