Immediate Family Only

Hi there.  The Col is back from an hour reading the inbred LS8 blog and listening to them argue about why Bruce Davis should have been released.  Did you know you could actually feel your brain cells whither and die while reading that blog?  The Col still encourages every blog out there, the more the merrier.  But when you name yourself and your blog after a redneck Southern Rock band which supported the Confederate flag, surely it isn't because you want to do serious research about TLB!?  Of course not.

This seems to be the blog where the loons go to fly.  Mr. Poirot has a wide berth over there if you know what I'm saying.  I just read a bunch of their posts and comments about Bruce Davis.  They seem to be trying to insult the governor for not freeing him for all sorts of reasons.  Of course there is one good reason not to free him-

He KILLED somebody!

So we aren't here to support Bruce.  I have told you that he is not getting out.  Punk is gonna die in prison.  His wife figured that out, what haven't the inbreds?

The Col is much more interested in Debra Tate (Orca) and Barbara Hoyt (Orcette).  See Bruce and the girls can lie their asses off at every hearing and they do.  But they are where they belong.  Debra and Barbara lie their asses off in every hearing and pretend they don't.  They also contribute to the confusion about the case and that the Col does not abide.

So the Col got a very well researched email from a member of the research crew who cares about the truth.  Guess who's been lying to the Parole Board?  You're gonna be shocked!


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Hi Colonel!

I am so incensed that Debra Tate and Barbara Hoyt were allowed to represent Gary Hinman's family at Bruce's parole hearing that I decided to write to Davis' attorney and tell him what I knew about Gary's family.  See the email I sent him below.  He wrote back that because the Governor did not overrule the parole board on anything to do with Tate and Hoyt's being at the hearing it would not be grounds for an appeal.  But he was very interested in what I sent him.  He does not like Tate and Hoyt any more than you or I like them.  He said that he would certainly use the info for the next hearing in mid 2014 particularly if the DA's office trots those two out again.

Beckman and I exchanged a couple of emails and then asked me what I knew about Tate and Hoyt, if I could dig up anything on them.  I was able to find some stuff on Hoyt, she has had numerous civil cases against her in Idaho where she lives.  They are all because she owed money she didn't pay, had her wages garnished etc.  She's a huge deadbeat.

I will send you what I found on Hoyt in another email.

What doubly pisses me off is that the LA DA's office is the instigator in having Tate and Hoyt at that hearing.  They knew damn well how Gary's sister felt about things!

Name Redacted

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From: NameRedacted
To: Lawyer who still Uses Aol for emails
Subject: Bruce Davis/ Gary Hinman Relatives
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:12 -0800

Mr. Beckman

I am writing you in regards to the victim witness situation for Bruce Davis's last parole hearing. There were two people who spoke on behalf of the Hinman family, one of those persons was Debra Tate who was supposedly there for a first cousin of Gary Hinman.  The reason it was claimed for a cousin submitting a statement was that no one else was alive. This is simply not true!  Both of Gary Hinman's sisters are still alive.

I am attaching a number of things to support this fact.  First is Robert Hinman's, Gary's father, obituary naming his survivors. (the first two daughters in his obituary are Gary's sisters, the second two daughters are Robert's step daughters, his second wife's children from a previous marriage. Gary's mother died a few months after he did, Robert remarried after that.)

Second and third attachments are Been Verified reports on both of the sisters. I have done social security death index searches on both women and neither of them are listed as having died.  Barbara Jean Hinman apparently has some competency issues as I found a law case where this was discussed.  It was a case about an easement issue involving sister Carole as well.

http://co.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.19890706_0040310.CO.htm/qx

I also found something regarding Carole Hinman Romberg and her feelings on testifying at a parole hearing for Bobby Beausoleil.  She had moved on and did not wish to be involved any longer, according to her daughter who answered the request from the LA County DA's office informing Carole of her right to speak at the hearing.  I'm pretty sure you would be able figure out which of Carole's daughters answered the request from the DA's office from the pdf with Carole's info.  The parole hearing of Beausoleil's is at this link and is on page 86 of the document.  It is Beausoleil's 2010 hearing if the link does not work.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:STuHfjpmNREJ:www.cielodrive.com/transcripts/BobbyBeausoleil2010Parole.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjIbD891_X1O22-W1Tue2D7K5qjHFmcEVEtv73Wduaqn1XVBLmWqj1zjnQliYHUAaeS4hYTC4SLwOWm_fyhCACY091YakLlZmJ_-m7qOzb4GTXFqmNEX4F92LF1ZlWCXcXD1SGu&sig=AHIEtbR2j6Qa4Zoiab61A87CFygkWwjdfQ

I also have some information about some of Gary Hinman's first cousins on his mothers side of the family.  None of the first cousins names match the names of the people being represented by Debra Tate and the other person.  This is an obituary for Gary's aunt.

http://www.postindependent.com/article/20021011/OBITUARIES/210100028


Gary's father had one sister, Margaret Elizabeth Hinman, her married name was Chapman.  She was born in 1903 in Colorado and died in 1991 in California, where she had lived for decades.  Below are the death index records for her.  I believe her husband's first name was Hilton, although I am not entirely certain of that.  I did find a death record for a Hilton Chapman who was from Colorado and died in California in 1963.  Margaret Hinman Chapman got her social security number in 1963 in California, so that kind of fits. 


I was able to locate a 1940 census record for Margaret and Hilton Chapman.  They lived Colorado in that census.  There were no children listed on that census report.  If the person claiming to be a first cousin named Kay Martley was Margaret's daughter she should have been on that census as Kay Martley is 75 years old.  See fourth attachment.

I am not a forensic genaologist so can not guarantee total accuracy of all this information but I am experienced with doing this type of research.  I would suggest that you have someone else blindly try to replicate what I have learned for verification.  There should be grounds for an appeal I would think.

Respectfully

Name Redacted
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Therein follows much information about legal claims against Barbara Hoyt (Clayborn) who does appear to have problems paying her bills.  Too bad the book with Nellie/Molesto never panned out!

Anyway, The DA needs to address this.  Are these two attention seeking, burger inhaling, father ashes hoarding beached  whales lying to the government?  Since when do the wishes of a first cousin trump the wishes of a sister?

California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Margaret Elizabeth Chapman

Name:	Margaret Elizabeth Chapman [Margaret Elizabeth Hinman]
Social Security #:	568720473
Gender:	Female
Birth Date:	10 Sep 1903
Birth Place:	Colorado
Death Date:	31 May 1991
Death Place:	Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name:	Richards
Father's Surname:	Hinman Social Security Death Index about Margaret E. Chapman Name: Margaret E. Chapman SSN: 568-72-0473 Last Residence: 94536  Fremont, Alameda, California, United States of America Born: 10 Sep 1903 Died: 15 May 1991 State (Year) SSN issued: California (1963)

Stirring the Wasp's Nest

We got a letter from Gary's "relative." As usual the Col replies in red---

Yes I am really a relative of Gary's.Nice to meet you.

I don't need to tell you how I am related

to him. You don't need to tell me anything...unless of course you wish to be believed. Otherwise you need to tell me a lot more than this.
We never said we didn't want to be contacted.Not sure what this non sequitur means.

I can't speak for all of

Gary's relatives but his cousin and I don't mind be being contacted. Cool, maybe someone will contact you. Oh wait, Liz did.

Yes that is really

Bruce's letter. Yes that is a letter from Bobby. I wrote to them at the request

of Gary's cousin.Interesting how even they seem to doubt you are who you claim to be.


YourYou're, a contraction of "You" and "are" the one you never wants the truth.It's the only thing I do want, sister, and believing some lunatic off the internet is not how I will get it. You tried to contact me in early 2010, and when asked to offer a SHRED of proof you vanished. Maybe Liz has time to humor you. We do not.

You act like your some

big wig.I act like nothing. This site is WORDS. Anything else is your projection.

You no know nothing about Gary's life. I do.I have one question and one only, see if you answer it- how many times did you meet Mr. Hinman?

I know he wasn't a dealer and

I know your you're full of crap. Go ahead I'm through playing your game. Don't blame

Liz or Matt.Blame them for what? They censored my comment. That's their right. It is also mine to chastise them for censorship. But blame them?

Go ahead and ask me a few questions. I would be more than happy to answer

them for you.I asked you ONE above. I already know the answer but go ahead, we are waiting.

I really do care about Gary and yes I am dedicated to preserving his memory.Then you would not be doing so on a relatively new and specialized blog. Hell, you wouldn't be doing it here, and I've been at this longer than most. YOu would do so on www.GaryHinman.com. But you don't.

True I don't have any other pictures of Gary. But I don't need to explain

that tooto you either why I don't have them. You don't need to explain that unless you wish to be beiieved.

Don't try to make people look bad because you are so unhappy with your

own life. That you feel a need to make others look bad.Not at all- I feel a need to not entertain lunatics.

Liz only censored the comments so that you wouldn't badmouth Gary.Being gay is not badmouthing someone you ignorant, illiterate homophobe.

I knew you would. Because you are really pathetic. You are clairvoyant too.

True none of Gary's relatives have attended parole hearing but that doesn't

mean they don't care about him.It does send some sort of message, at least to me.
I know I do and I know two of his cousins

do also. Its It's really your problem not mine what you believe.Then why did you write to me?

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More Nutso Drivel

I wish you would stop Defaming Gary.Defamation is a legal term. I know this as a disbarred attorney from Hawthorne. You cannot defame a dead person. It is not legally possible.

Remember what comes around goes

around.The Circle Of Life! Gary was a good person with a kind heart.I believe his young music students got to see more than just his heart. Since you never

knew him you shouldn't be judging him.Did you know him? Meet him? I asked once already.

I really don't care what you think anymore.Yet you keep writing. You have a terrible attitude.Staying above the fray is hard.

I am not as peaceful as Gary was.Does that mean you don't have any MDMA? So keep pushing my buttons.

I will always remember Gary & the other victims honorably.Do you think that is what they would want or would they want the truth about their deaths to come out? WHY was Gary killed? WHO wanted him dead?

Not just because I am related to Gary. But because I think itsit's the

right thing to do and I won't ever stop defending him.You are not defending him. He is not being attacked.

Like I said please contact me. I am not afraid of you.

Like everyone else is.These are sentence fragments that make little sense- I will simply say that no one is afraid of me. Nor should they be.

BTW I am not on drugs.I believe you. I am certain that you are ignorant and illiterate and ranting without the use of narcotics.

Its really a shame you have no respect for Gary. I'm sure

he would be towards you.We be you you be me we be all together.

Actually Bruce & Bobby have more respect for others than you.

And their killers.You stopped making sense already, does your head explode soon? Did someone kill Bobby? That is what you have written.

YourYou're a real sorry human being. ItsIt's also a shame because most

of the blog owners are decent people and nothing like you. And most of them have not had to put up with cranks like you. Liz is great- give her some time.

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And now we get Liz, who is smart and articulate

Colonel, Matt responded for me earlier. i was out all day and didn't want you to think i was blowing you off. Miranda gave me enough proof that i believed her. yes those pictures were posted on TOTL, i am not sure if they are any place else. They originally come from a UCLA website. Miranda told me she had contacted Cats/Glenda a while back (years i think) and gave her those same pictures. Miranda did NOT give her those fotos. HUNDRED PERCENT. Miranda never mentioned to me contacting you or your blog.Early 2010 she did.

Besides Cats she mentioned another site but i forget the name now.

Miranda told me there were not alot of pictures of Gary, he did not like to be photographed. i believe it.Maybe. Let's say that fotos taken the year he was killed are rare. But his fucking family would have his senior prom foto. Where is that, Miranda? i hate having my picture taken and i think the last time i had my picture taken was 20 years ago when i had my daughter. i do not photograph well and cringe at the site of any photo of me. i really truly believe her, based on what she told me.I know you do. But you are young in this game and innocent.

she is a blood relative of Gary's. you mentioned on your blog, Gary's

immediate family never wanted to be bothered with the hearings.

they wanted to try to forget it all. it pains them. which i can understand.

Miranda lives on the east coast, a far and expensive trip to look at the person who participated/caused the death of one of your family members and to listen to their ever changing stories. If it were my relative, a small price to pay to keep the culprit behind bars. Not once in 43 years? theHinmans keep in contact with the parole board by mail. Gary's mother and father are both deceased now. When they were alive they had a lot of reasons why not to go to the parole hearings. over the years, especially in the beginning, they received threatening phone calls and hang ups from guess which family? the senseless crime wounded them so that they did not even want to face the killers of their son. it was NEVER spoken about. if anything related to it came on the t.v, it had to be shut off.Well that isn't healthy now is it?

people handle things diffrently, and i guess that is the way the Hinmans do it.

you mentioned on your blog that the letters from Bruce and

Bobby don't sound the same as the ones you receive.

Colonel you and i both know these people are chameleons.

the stories changed with every letter, parole hearing and interview.

they write the things they do to certain people to benefit themselves.

Case wise let me ask you this- if there was any type of drug factory, or drug dealings- don't you think it would be mentioned in a police report?This would assume that the lab was active, but Gary was leaving town in a few days.

i am sure you have read them, i have. also Gary had no drugs in his system at the time of his death. yes i know, maybe he didn't sample his wares but still.

And if she was a fake-how did it benefit her? This is the question. Why do so many people in LA tell the Col that they were headed to a big party on Cielo that night but canceled at the last minute? HELL, why do people pretend they were in OUR GANG when they were kids? They just do. she said nothing hateful about Bruce or Bobby. she remains in contact with Bruce to this day.

i don't know if you are in contact with Bruce, ask him about her-he can verify it. Miranda still exchanges mail with Bruce to this day.

And yes we gave her a fake name since she didn't want to use her real one.

You also said "these people don't want to be contacted." i never contacted Gary or Stephanie Schram's family. they contacted me.You are inverting the comment. I KNOW you didn't. But I a saying that THEY didn't either because it ain't them.

As for "censoring" your comment, one of the deal makers with Miranda was that we would not let any negative or hurtful comments through. weather you believe me or her, try to see it this way-

If one of your family was murdered in a terrible way- would you want to go on the internet and see terrible, un-true, hurtful things said about your dead family member?But they are true and I am not sure why being gay would be hurtful.

especially when someone promised you it would not happen?

and so what if Gary was gay, would that have justified killing him to rid the world of one queer? NO it wouldn't. But if we truly want to know WHY he was killed we need to look at his whole life and his sexuality is part of that, especially in 1969.

i have in no way benefited from that post. if anything all i have received is negativity. I hear ya, Evil One

hope this clears up a few things for you. Liz

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and now the finale

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From:	Riley004583@aol.com
Sent:	Fri 1/29/10 9:31 PM
To:	colscott@hotmail.com

I too have talked with one of the victims family members. Your theory about him being a drug dealer is bunk.In other words his cousin says that this is totally false and the killers and their defense used this to mitigate exterminating a fine human being. You can go go with your theory but we know its not true.

Although I have seen you have left his name off your blog for once. And we do thank you for that.

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• Re: drug dealer theory‏

From:	Riley004583@aol.com
Sent:	Sat 1/30/10 9:07 AM
To:	colscott@hotmail.com

Yes I was talking about Gary. His cousin is adamant about this. He says Rumours about him being murdered as a drug debt are totally false and just used as ploy by the murderers and their attorneys to mitigate the extermination of a fine human being. He says Gary may have used Marijuana casually but

thats it. If you don't believe me why don't you ask Bruce Davis or Bobby I have written to both of them

and they have told me that Gary wasn't a drug dealer and that's not why he was murdered. Even though

they are murderers at least they have shown compassion for the victims and remorse. Something people

off the internet no nothing about. You seem so one sided and made Bobby seem like this also. Bobby

actually does care about the victims as so does Bruce I believe. Not that I want them released from prison

but I see they are at least trying to make amends for what they have done and that is good. As for Jay Sebring and Frykowski I don't know them or anyone in their family but I have my doubts that they were

dealers. But you say you know Jay's nephew so why don't you ask him? See not all the victims relatives

are like Debra Tate on a witch hunt. Yes I do enjoy your blog at times. But constantly bashing Gary is

wrong. Also he wasn't gay either and didn't have a thing for little boys as you say. I know you say don't read my blog if you don't like it. You really don't know much about Gary or the type of person he was but he was a wonderful person who just wanted to help people. But some of the victims families do read your blog think about that the next time.

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To colscott@hotmail.com

From:	Riley004583@aol.com
Sent:	Mon 2/01/10 5:56 PM
To:	colscott@hotmail.com

You are so ignorant anyway. Your blog really does suck. And you are one of the most ignorant piece

of crap producers around. By the way your name is Don Murphy isn't it. I don't care if you believe me or not.

I am glad you posted my letter because people will now see you for who you are. Keep challenging

people and I am sure it will come back to bite you. You think you know everything but you really don't.

I can Defend Gary if I want. For once I think people would love for you to just shut your big mouth.

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From:	Riley004583@aol.com
Sent:	Mon 2/01/10 9:50 PM
To:	colscott@hotmail.com

We really don't care what you think about him. We think he was a wonderful person. He was a lot better person than you'll ever be. At least he cared about people and there feelings. Yes he did help people something you know nothing about. Yes you have defamed his character whether you believe that or not.

I don't need to read your false reports. Gary had a family that loved him and thought the world of him.

I wonder how you can go through life treating people this bad. Even Debra you badmouthed her all the time.

You really should put yourself in someone elses shoes before speaking. Debra may not be perfect but who is at least she loved her sister just like Gary's cousin loves him. Debra has helped people. I may not agree with everything she does. But I do give her credit and she seems like a strong person. Also to

the people on your blog we really don't care what you think about Gary, since really your a bunch of nobodys to us with no compassion or feelings for others. So remember your the one who has Defamed

Debra & Gary. You really don't know if Bruce has remorse or not. I say yes I have read what he says.

Your not always right just remember that.

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At no point does bitch say that she is Gary's relative. NOT ONCE. You can see the same illiteracy and ignorance. And she is DESPERATE to teach the COL a lesson and put him in his place. If she WERE a relative would she not have said so?

(and I have talked with other site masters who have similar emails)

Sorry Liz, she is not a relative, she never met Gary and MAYBE she talked to a cousin once. You were had. Better luck next time.

Me, I am used to it. Onward.

The Trouble with the Nets

The trouble with these newfangled internets is that people can say they are anything. I say I am a disbarred attorney from Hawthorne California, others say I am a rich film producer (sweet!). And without absolute proof, our desire for the truth can be thwarted by a two bit moron from Des Moines.

When Clark Ronson (not his real name) started the TLB message board peripheral people did show up- Karen McCoy Montecillo, the friend of Steven Parent who claimed they dated (he liked boys, so no). But then more central figures showed up, including the legendary Ouisch. But then it turned out that Clark himself was pretending to be Ouisch.

Nelson the Molester did uncover Snake and Hoyt, but even he was desperate to speak with the central people. He even wrote an unreadable book about trying to contact them.

Guess what? They don't want to be contacted.

Clem gets outed and his mobile attorney starts throwing threatening letters.

These people don't want to be contacted.

Repeat that to yourself over and over.

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On this site I have been contacted by many imposters.

I was able to ascertain that Nancy Pitman was real.

As was the grown up child of Lauren Willett.

Others not so much.

Why do people pretend? Because it makes them feel powerful.

But these people don't want to be contacted.

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Over at the Evilliz blog (where she has censored my postings, an odd thing for someone who complained about Cats so much) someone claiming to be related or associated with Gary Hinman has spoken out.

This person has sent photos. Photos that were unearthed by Heave on her awesome site years ago.

She has sent letters that don't sound like Bruce or Bobby, but who knows, maybe they are. Whenever I speak to Bobby, MDMA is a major factor in what happened.

She has sent claims. Claims that Hinman didn't deal drugs. It is very likely he did. Claims that he wasn't gay (again, I will never understand people acting like that is a bad thing.) He most definitely was.

But, Class, take the point above (these people don't want to be contacted) and decide

- Does the alleged close Hinman associate NOT appear at any Parole Hearing for Bobby or Charlie or Bruce for FORTY TWO FUCKING YEARS and then one day show up online at a new and disorganized site and reveal "the truth"?

Sit with that thought for a minute. Let logic be your friend.

These people don't want to be contacted. Liz, I love your work, dislike your censorship but baby, you been had!

Such A Strange Letter

Further to yesterday we got a reply from the strange fellow trying to rewrite history-


Yes I was talking about Gary. His cousin is adamant about this. He says Rumours about him being murdered as a drug debt are totally false and just used as ploy by the murderers and their attorneys to mitigate the extermination of a fine human being. He says Gary may have used Marijuana casually but

thats it. If you don't believe me why don't you ask Bruce Davis or Bobby I have written to both of them

and they have told me that Gary wasn't a drug dealer and that's not why he was murdered. Even though

they are murderers at least they have shown compassion for the victims and remorse. Something people

off the internet no nothing about. You seem so one sided and made Bobby seem like this also. Bobby

actually does care about the victims as so does Bruce I believe. Not that I want them released from prison

but I see they are at least trying to make amends for what they have done and that is good. As for Jay Sebring and Frykowski I don't know them or anyone in their family but I have my doubts that they were

dealers. But you say you know Jay's nephew so why don't you ask him? See not all the victims relatives

are like Debra Tate on a witch hunt. Yes I do enjoy your blog at times. But constantly bashing Gary is

wrong. Also he wasn't gay either and didn't have a thing for little boys as you say. I know you say don't read my blog if you don't like it. You really don't know much about Gary or the type of person he was but he was a wonderful person who just wanted to help people. But some of the victims families do read your blog think about that the next time.

And now with patented ColComments!-

Yes I was talking about Gary. His cousin is adamant about this. He says Rumours about him being murdered as a drug debt are totally false Except he was a drug dealer- this is in the police reports and almost every description of the guy- I can't just whitewash history because it would make you happy and just used as ploy by the murderers and their attorneys to mitigate the extermination of a fine human being. I don't think so- read the transcript- the DA never even questions it. I don't think Gary WAS a fine human being, I think he had his hands in all kinds of shit- but none of which he needed killing for He says Gary may have used Marijuana casually but

thats it. If we staked our research on the lies of distant cousins where would we be?If you don't believe me why don't you ask Bruce Davis or Bobby I have written to both of them

and they have told me that Gary wasn't a drug dealer and that's not why he was murdered.Well I have spoken to Booby regularly since 2003. There are two points in your posting. He maybe wasn't murdered because of it but he was a drug dealer. Bobby has always told me that. Writing to Bruce who still lies about other murders is kind of futile. Even though

they are murderers at least they have shown compassion for the victims and remorse. Bruce has done no such thing. You cannot show remorse while still lying about other murders. I do think Bobby is truly sorry. Something people

off the internet no nothing about. You seem so one sided and made Bobby seem like this also. Bobby

actually does care about the victims as so does Bruce I believe. Bruce just wants to get out. Therefore I conclude your beliefs are idiotic.
Not that I want them released from prison Why not- if they have atoned they DESERVE to be out under the law. Don't you believe in the law?

but I see they are at least trying to make amends for what they have done and that is good. Amends? Like fucking what? Saying boo hoo release me? As for Jay Sebring and Frykowski I don't know them or anyone in their family but I have my doubts that they were

dealers. Again, you can doubt birds fly, kiddo, but they do and they were. But you say you know Jay's nephew so why don't you ask him? I say I met his nephew almost 20 years ago. His nephew was like 2 when Jay was murdered. You really think he knows shit? See not all the victims relatives

are like Debra Tate on a witch hunt. Witch Hunt? She's crazy as a bed bug but a witch hunt implies she is going after innocent people. She isn't. Yes I do enjoy your blog at times. But constantly bashing Gary is

wrong. I have never bashed Gary. The FACTS don't equate to bashing. He did NOTHING to deserve murdering.
Also he wasn't gay either and didn't have a thing for little boys as you say. Both of these are confirmed by the trial testimony, the police report and those that new him. He used his piano teaching as a way to meet young boys. Again, NO reason to be killed. Not even a big deal. But the truth.

I know you say don't read my blog if you don't like it. No you really NEED to read it and open your eyes.

You really don't know much about Gary or the type of person he was but he was a wonderful person who just wanted to help people. Now come on, St. Gary? You cannot point to one thing he did to help people, unless letting a friend crash at your place now and then is help.

But some of the victims families do read your blog think about that the next time. Oh I know. Patti's children read regularly. Friends of Debra Tate (disowned by her own family and cut out of their will) read it and she probably does too. I wouldn't doubt that many of them read it regularly. Which is why we must stick to the truth, not to your anonymous ramblings.

A Year End Find

Catscradle whose excellent board is worth a visit - www.truthontatelabianca.com is taking some time away so she can focus on health issues.

Our prayers go with you Cat.

In the meantime, she scored BIG.

This is a photo that shows Gary Hinman and his ex-wife Gloria when they were in a UCLA dance group. He seems to be fifth down in the front row.

How many of you knew he had been married? Or danced?

How many of you have seen any photo of the guy aside from the freaking shot in the Bug novel?

Thanks Cat. Best wishes.

Here is the page the photo comes from.