Just Sayin'

If I were an LA District Attorney in 2011 I would arrest Steve Grogan for the LaBianca murders. He was never even charged for being there. I would play it in the press for all it was worth. Prosecutor reopens famous 40 year old murder case. I would do it seriously, not as a joke. I would get the word out so that the others out there like Kasabian etc who have skeletons would shit a brick.

Then I would take Clem and his dimestore attorney aside and have a chat. "I am going to ask you 100 questions. If you answer every one of them to my satisfaction, I am going to let you plead to time served. Avoid one question, or make me THINK you did and you'll spend what's left of your life in jail."

Bet I got some answers too.

Just sayin'.

Steve Grogan Murdered Shorty Shea and is Now Adam Gabriel, Band Member of Rhythmtown Jive

Finding that C and D letter from the silly lawyer got the Col pissed off all over again. She seems to think that after being a part of the most notorious murders of the last fifty years, Steve Grogan has some sort of entitlement to privacy upon release. Of course, as a failed lawyer myself I laugh at this woman. I especially love the bit where she says he has stayed out of the public eye. I mean WTF he is part of a band and his videos and pictures were all over their website. If that isn't the public eye what is?

Clem has a right to stfu. He has a right to a earn a living and raise a family. Hell, he has a LOT more rights than Donald Shea has at the moment. If he told his bandmates who he was and they accepted him anyway, then fine. If he didn't, that's his concern not ours.

But there is no presumed right to privacy for released murderers. And when he finally dies, Steve will be known as a Manson Family killer. If he is known at all.

So I am sorry Kyndra Miller, she who doesn't have a secretary answering her calls. Threaten me, threaten the missing Bret.

But Grogan is who he is and that's too bad for all of us. Really.

Those Were The Days My Friend

Why am I posting this now? I don't know. Maybe because I just remembered how super pissed off I was almost two years ago when this fucking lawyer sent me this letter acting as if I somehow was responsible for poor Clem Grogan, the man who BEHEADED Shorty Shea.

And somebody better tell me where the hell Bret is. Hey Bret, give me your site I'll make sure it doesn't fucking disappear every two months.

Yes I am in a bad mood thank you for asking.

(click on the letter to make it bigger and more amusing)

Please comment away about murderer Clem Grogan also known as ADAM GABRIEL. Thoughts?

Not Getting It

There seems to be much discussion about the outing of Clem Grogan as Adam Gabriel, singer for the band Rythymtown-Jive.

Some people think Bret should not have done it. That Clem had paid for his crimes and that he had been paroled and that people have been opened up to danger.

Now let's point out why I disagree-

1- Before they purged all record of Adam Gabriel/ Steve Grogan from their myspace page and websites, they pointed out that they played gigs at children's camps. Anyone who knows the Col knows that he draws the line at children. Nellie the molester- fuck you. And others. Clem Grogan not only was convicted of exposing himself to children, Clem Grogan is seen on tape in the MANSON documentary doing insane shit to children. Then he murdered AT LEAST one other human being. The law may say that he is allowed to walk the streets free- but associate with children? I don't care what the law says, that is seriously messed up.

2- He may be out legally, but only because a judge commuted his sentence to life from death. If he had been given death it would have been much harder to release him.

3- He may be out legally, but not because he is a helluva guy- he is out because he agreed after over a decade to show where the body of the man he KILLED was buried in order TO get out.

4- He is guilty of two other murders and has never been tried.

----> Susan Atkins was convicted of 7 counts of murder, 2 counts being the LaBiancas. She was an accessory before the fact (driving there, planning) and after the fact (keeping it secret) which makes it a conspiracy. Even though she never entered the LaBianca house she is guilty of their murder.
----> Linda Kasabian was charged with 7 counts of murder, 2 counts being the LaBiancas. She was an accessory before the fact (driving there, planning) and after the fact (keeping it secret) which makes it a conspiracy. Even though she never entered the LaBianca house she is guilty of their murder. Her deal was such that the charges were vacated AFTER she testified at every freaking trial involved. For years. She was charged and was guilty- the charges were vacated.
----> Steve Grogan drove to the LaBiancas and planned JUST LIKE Atkins and Kasabian. He kept it secret which makes it a conpiracy. He for some reason was never charged and stayed out on the streets. Lucky man.
----> There is NO statute of limitations on murder. Conspiracy to commit murder is the same as murder under the law.
----> Ergo Steve could still be arrested for this shit TODAY if someone woke up. (Monkeyboy might want to argue selective prosecution and see if he can find someone who cares anymore.)

I'm sorry- this is not someone who deserves pity.

Scramblehead

Tonight Bret will share with everyone what he shared with me two months ago.

What has the convicted killer of Shorty Shea been up to for decades?

How does he manage to stay in close contact with children?

Thurs Night.