Friday, January 27, 2006

Who Owns What?


60sKid made some posts so even though the Col had some other subjects planned for the day, I'm gonna keep on topic. Thanks KID!

So the Col wants to know what happened to Sharon's Estate, such as it was. There was whatever real property she left behind- rings etc. And intangible property, in this case her name and likeness and what have you.

It all went to her next of kin, Roman Polanski. This is FOR SURE.

He didn't want any of it. He assigned, waived what have you everything to PJ Tate and Doris Tate. This is FOR SURE.

Doris Tate died. She leaves basically everything to PJ. Patti does. She leaves basically everything in trust for her kids.

I mean they all leave a little thing here and there to others. But the bulk is what I mean.

Now, Paul has everything, as far as I can follow. I guess when Debra made all those threats against Yahoo RTV and stuff, she could claim she was doing it at daddy's request as owner. I doubt it but who is to say now, right?

Now the house, which is usually the biggest estate asset, is sold by PJ to Lisa Statman five months before he dies.

And the question is, who did Paul leave his estate (which included SHARON'S estate) to?

I am waiting to get the will I ordered. But if the many emails I am getting from people are correct, we may find out that Debra Tate, except for some items she may have been given over the years, has NO RIGHT to her sister's name, likeness, or items whatsoever.

I could be wrong. No definite conclusions yet.

But what will Miss Paige claim then, boys and girls? Hmmmm?

54 comments:

4Sharon said...

LOL I LOVE that last sentence "What will Miss Paige claim then, boys and girls" because how truthful can you be! Miss Paige will claim ANYTHING, making her as believable as a late night infomercial. She'll say anything and then say it is directly from Debra! People are so stupid to believe anything she posts on that board. GULLIBLE.

4Sharon said...

I think you nailed it. Debra probably owns just the little trinkets she was given over the years - photos, an outfit or two, things like that, nothing more.

4Sharon said...

I have nothing against Debra at all. Don't know her. As a matter of fact, I gave her CREDIT, saying I am sure she has BETTER taste than to choose Paige to be a "friend". Why choose a little hick, wino, "ex porn looking pillhead" for a friend?

4Sharon said...

I agree Carlos. Well said. There are mose scarey "serials" out there AND terrorists, to worry about, than this old washed up man and his old cronies. LOL

4Sharon said...

I agree Carlos! The last thing anyone needs to worry about, is ex hippies in thier senior years, who are still tripping on 60's memories. We need to be more worried about the ragheads, who are out to destroy us.

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4Sharon said...

60skid? Are you the Paige/Debra spokesperson? Sure sounds like it. The only comment I made about Debra is that I don't know her and have nothing against her. Also, that no one needs to spy on her boards, as the members share freely, the assanine things Paige posts about her obsessive worship of Debra and all things Tate.
Furthermore, I never mentioned liking much less worshiping Manson. I think he is where he belongs. The point we made, which you fail to GET, is that there are more dangers lurking out there, such as terrorists, rather than washed up 60's hippies.

4Sharon said...

But, now back to the topic at hand, before we got off topic, yes, it could very well be that Debra wants to be famous and will do anything in her power to bring alive Sharon's memory again, for a profit to herself, and recognition for herself. She needs to remember that Sharon was not a big star, and only made 5 movies. Can't do much with that.

Heaven said...

I can't help but agree here.. If this blog, it's contents or the posters offend you, don't look at it.

I may not agree with everything that's said here, but this is still America.. The right to post the non popular opinion still stands.

If you love Debra, wonderful, spectacular, fantastic. But you (nor she) can expect that everyone else is going too just because YOU feel it's what everyone else SHOULD do.

If the answers here frighten you then you should cease to ask scary questions.

Heaven said...

Oh and one more thing...

To those that are here posting in support of Debra and Paige, the more you post the more fuel you add to the fire. I know some of you are from the Sharon Tate Discussion board and your intentions are good, but you're just keeping the fires burning.

Paige and Debra don't need "support", if what they are doing feels right to them. None of us have the right to judge anyone else. I like Paige very much, I always have and nothing that's said here about her is going to change my opinion of her. So unless it's going to change yours, there's no need to post on her behalf. No matter what she does, not everyone is going to agree on her actions all at the same time.. It falls under "some people like you and some don't."
They should just keep on doing what feel's right to them and not worry about what anyone else has to say...

As for Debra, I don't hate Debra cause I don't know her. But yes, there have been times I've questioned her motives. But on the other hand, her motives are not my business to question......

So, in a nutshell, if you want the negative posts about Debra and Paige to stop, my suggestion is you stop adding to them...

Just my two cents...

=)

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Problem Child said...

60skid--

Everyone has the right to express their opinion. I won't knock yours and you don't need to knock mine. If you want to, that's fine. But I won't stoop to your level.

Onward....

Paige is a wannabe. She is overcome with awe that Debra is the sister of a mediocre actress who has been dead for 36 plus years.

Sharon wasn't destined to be a star. If she hadn't been murdered, she would have divorced Polanski and raised her child. It is a tragedy what happened to her. But honestly, would people still be talking about her if she hadn't died the way she did? She would have dumped the midget, lived a happy life with her child, and been an answer to a trivia question about the Beverly Hillbillies. Nothing wrong with that life. Paige and the others would have you believe that Sharon was on the level with Julia Roberts and Glenn Close. Come on! I've seen better actin' in tough actin' Tinactin.

Paige is a starstruck housewife. She leads a lonely existence with her husband (who, by the way, needs to buy some new clothes. The 80's are over buddy).

People here can say whatever they want. If you can't handle it stay the fuck out.

ColScott said...

problem child (who sounds a bit like me at times but is not I swear)

You've got a lot of aggro!

4Sharon said...

ProblemChild, you are so right. LOL I am LMAO at you. Paige would love for everyone to believe she knows Debra and is her bud. LOL Too funny. She probably fantasizes about looking like Sharon.
Sadly and truthfully though, she truly is obsessed with Debra. As credible as a late night infomercial. She has no life except that board. Her husband needs a modern haircut AND some new clothes. LOL

4Sharon said...

I have to agree too that Sharon is KNOWN for the kind of death she suffered, sadly. Mention her to anyone and what do they say? Not "wasn't she in Valley of the Dolls"? Instead, "wasn't that the actress slain, like in that vampire movie, Fearless Vampire Killers"? She was not a BIG star and I agree, when she had the baby, she probably would have left Roman and been a mom, period. But, she was known for her tragic death, not big movies.

Problem Child said...

ColScott said: problem child (who sounds a bit like me at times but is not I swear)

I'll take that as a compliment.

Yes, 4Sharon, I think she would have drooped Roman like a bad habit. I think she would have given up show business and devoted herself to being a fulltime Mom. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I think she would have made a wonderful mother and grandmother as well.

Do I think she would have won an Oscar? No way. I don't think she had more than two dozen lines in any movie she was in. You can't ask anyone about her without saying, "You know, the actress murdered by the Manson family." Until you mention that, no one knows who you are talking about.

But Paige. To be obsessive about a dead actress's sister? That is warped.

But as long as we're talking about brushes with fame -- I once met Johnny Cash's brother.

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Problem Child said...

60skid--

I can't speak for everyone here but I'll answer for myself.

I don't think Debra is sincere. For one reason or another she is the black sheep of the Tate family. But now that Doris and Patti are both dead, I guess she felt it was her turn. Which is fine and her right. But from the comments I have read about her and from what I've seen of her on television, she seems out for herself. She wants all rights to photos that aren't hers to begin with. If Sharon or Roman gave something to a friend, she wants that too.

And now this thing with the ashes. Why don't Paul Tate's grandkids know where his ashes are? Don't you think they have a right to know? What about Paul's girlfriend? Whether Debra liked her or not, the lady does have a right to know.

Should Debra have ALL of Sharon's belongings? What about others in the Tate family? Debra must have really pissed them all off. Now she's playing payback.

I can't believe it was all because she posed nude in OUI. After all, Sharon posed nude. But then again, Sharon was hot.

Paige is just the president and ceo of the Kiss Debra Tate's Ass Club. Heaven asked a legitimate question over there about where Paul Tate's remains were. All hell broke loose and the thread was closed. No answers were given other than "Debra has them". She probably is using them for cat litter for all anyone knows.

It is Paige and the others who put Sharon on the list with Kathrine Hepburn, Meryl Streep, and Julia Roberts. It is Paige and the others who worship Debra and the mail route she walks on.

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Heaven said...

60skid, i'm not the least bit upset. I was just calling you on your own words.

=)

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Dok said...

60'skid, Don't stop posting, that would be a mistake. It's like yin and yang, this blog and it's readers like to hear both sides. Just because we all may not agree does not mean that it is wrong. And if someone directs a comment to you about what you have posted, it's not meant for you to go away.

As far as everyone here knowing each other, that is wrong. There are bigger players (for a lack of a better word) who have been around this case for a longer period of time. Because of that, they know and/or are familiar with one another.

It is a shame when a family comes to this point. Yes, I agree what happened to the Tate family was like a Tsunami throughout their lives. The waves just kept coming in causing damage. That terrible moment on August 9, 1969 lead to a life time of terrible moments for the Tates.

The ashes of Paul Tate, should be in a place for the entire family and loved ones can go to, if they need to. If, in fact this is some sort of tit for tat fight, it is a disgrace and only causing harm. Debra Tate, you need to let go and rise above so you can heal. And so your family can heal.

For anyone who says that this is none of our business, well, their right. That does not mean that we can't discuss it or even let this kind of information out to the media. If it, once researched thoroughly, were let out, how embarrassing would that be Debra? Would it promt her to do the right thing? Would this be the right way this issue was brought to a conclusion?

Problem Child said...

60skid--

We may disagree but that's cool. This would be a very boring world if everyone thought the same way. The Col's blog here would be pretty empty.

What I'm saying is, don't stop posting. If I disagree with something you say, I will call you on it. I expect you to do the same to me.

4Sharon said...

Well, that settles it! Unlike Paige's phony board, we all agree that we can freely share our thoughts and feelings and we don't have to sugarcoat everything as Paige does, on her board. That's what makes this blog fun - facts can be let out, discussed, or just theories...some will like people, some won't, but at least it can be thought provoking, what we discuss.

Heaven said...

Dr Dodopariti,

That was an excellent post!
I agree with everything you said.

=)

Problem Child said...

I was just thinking about something.

In 1969 Roman Polanski was 36 years old. Sharon Tate was 26. Polanski's current wife was 3 years old. At that rate, his next wife hasn't even been born yet.

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cortex_jnr said...

u jackels are so nasty. why don u do wut we wabbits do and play nice.

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Problem Child said...

Speaking of message boards. The Col has posted here about what he calls the granddaddy of the TL boards. Is there a way to still access this message board? I know there are archives of Bill Nelson's site that can still be viewed. Is there a way to read an archived version of this old board. I'd like to see what the fuss was all about.

4Sharon said...

I think you have it wrong..no one here is UPSET about what Paige is saying on her board - all the lies and fabricated crap. We are getting a big hoot out of it, laughing our asses off at what a fool she is making of herself, and the dumbasses on the board who believe everything she says. That is what is so hilarious to us. The people ON the board are viewing for entertainment alone...so, we don't get upset, we pitty that poor little "ex porn looking" Paige.

4Sharon said...

Does anyone here know the connection we are hearing about Debra having a friend, that is now in prison, as a convicted child molester? The story goes that Robin had the rights to her board, but Debra and this guy in prison, got the rights from Robin (previous board controller) to own it and that Paige is also a good friend of this man. Is that true? Does anyone know anything about this?

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4Sharon said...

LOL Carlos - you are so funny! Happy snatching!!! LOL You are helpful to those who wish to see.

Do you know anything about the story of Debra being friends with a convicted child molester, in prison? Everyone is talking about her and Paige being friends with him..and that Robin knew him.

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4Sharon said...

LOL Yeah, or a look of disgust, like "you ARE a nasty woman!". LOL

No, not Bill Nelson..some guy from about a year ago. Paige would know, she knows everything. (like Mikey from Kix cereal)...of course she'll "have to call Debra and ask". LOL

Problem Child said...

What has happened over at sharontate.net? If you go to the WHAT'S NEW section, it's almost 2 years old. The guestbook is also horribly out of date. The only activity is the sugar sweet posts on the message board.

Chris Simmons was the webmaster over there and even his personal blog hasn't been updated in a couple of years. Maybe he's the guy in prison?

He and Robin were pretty close.

4Sharon said...

Problem child..I think that is the archived board, isn't it? Chris Simmons was on originally, but the members say he is no longer on. No, members are saying the child molester that is in prison now, WAS a member of Paige's board that she is moderating now. They said she was friends with him and Debra was also. Or they still are. I think he was on when Robin had the board too, not sure.

trollgirl said...

Paige looks like Keith Richards.

Dok said...

Thank you Heaven, I appreciate the compliment.

You know I have also been kicked out of the Sharon Tate board. The thing that gets me is, I rarely posted. When I did post, it was always appropriate and positive. My question is why are people being kicked out? Does any one know why?

4Sharon said...

Dr. I am not sure why, but I heard if you didn't totally agree with all of Paige's fake gushing and you were not filthy mouthed and cruddy acting, then she didn't want you on the board and it's funny, because last I heard, they only have about 5 members IF THAT, that actually post. Hmm, in a world so big, what is up with THAT?
LOL LOVE the comment about Keith. I had "ex porn queen" in mind. LOL
So, I beg the question AGAIN - how did this little HICK girl from the east coast and her croney in NY get TOTAL control of that board, unles THEY made it all up themselves. OR, had connections wiht the prison inmate/Debra scenerio.

4Sharon said...

Well, I heard this prison inmate I have been referring to, was introduced by Paige, when he first got on her board and she really GUSHED over him, like he was a star. Then, he gets in trouble and all the sudden she "knows nothing" and is very shut mouthed. LOL Also heard that Debra and this man have some pictures taken together floating out there...can anyone elaborate? Is this the type people they hang with?

holyterror2 said...

Now THAT is something to check into. Never heard about that. They must wanna hush that up FAST. Interesting.

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4Sharon said...

Did I miss something here? Why would Debra be associated? What are the postal connections?

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4Sharon said...

I'll do my best...although it is not too hard to "dig up" when members of groups and boards so freely OFFER information.

Unknown said...

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how come there are no morgue/autopsy photos of Baby Paul Polanski?