Thursday, September 01, 2005

Lies and Balderdash


Okay- AGNOSTIC MONK, a very smart person, asks--- "Ok, what were Barbara Hoyt's lies, exactly?

What were Linda Kasabians's lies, exactly?

What were Catherine Share's lies (during the penalty phase), exactly?"

This was in response to me stating that EVERY member of the Family lied on the stand at some point.

Since I only need to discuss ONE lie to prove my assertion, I will have at it.

In the main trial, Hoyt testified that the Family had meals at the back house and that at dinner time Charlie often spoke about "Helter Skelters". Of course, we know that while the concept of Helter Skelter was bandied about the Ranch, Charlie never had anything resembling regular meetings about it; this was just Hoyt following the Bug's instructions to bring up Helter Skelter in her testimony. In the Shorty Shea trial, in order to establish that she could have heard Shorty's screams, she claims they came from a tree area near where she was sleeping. Both Davis and Clem, who have now admitted the killing and have nothing to gain by lying, completely contradict her story.

I don't even have to begin to list Share's lies. Let's just take an easy one- she stated that Bobby Beausoleil did not kill Gary Hinman. Bobby fully admits that he did. She also accuses Leslie of being at Hinman and knows she wasn't. Share admitted her lies to Bug on some sick, fluffy talk show a few years back.

Linda,Linda Linda. You know her- the one who, at least according to FIVE TO DIE, when arrested swore that she'd never be a snitch. The one who drove to TWO nights of murder and did nothing, nothing to report them until she was caught. How many lies do you need from the girl that was only at the Ranch a couple of weeks? Do you believe she was told to HIDE the LaBianca wallet in a toilet? Uh huh. Do you believe she really went to the wrong apartment in Venice? Uh huh. How about an easy one? "Why did you leave your baby with these killers Linda while you left?" " I just knew, somehow, she would be all right."

Uh huh.

3 comments:

ColScott said...

We do agree that she is the least worse of the worst.

And I don't take that book at its word. At all.

And voluntarily turning yourself in AFTER they have sworn a warrant for you is --- a joke. Sorry.

And her future life as a drug dealer or what have you eliminates whatever distinctions you might award IMO.

Look- if she had JUST told the truth it would have been fine, IMO. I am glad she put away Tex and the gang. I have a problem with LIES so that you can get a free pass and send Charlie away.

And where are you getting the Gary "she would have done it anyway" from? Bug's book- a book where those he needs (Kasabian) get love and those he wants to nail (CM0 get bile and even his more talented rivals (Stovitz) get shit upon. I don't believe that was true because SHE WOULD HAVE COME FORWARD BEFORE SHE WAS BUSTED.

ColScott said...

Hey that's why adults can agree to disagree.
Bug needed her, she got the walk and said what she was supposed to.
I'd probably do the same.
I just gag at all the efforts to make her seem the lost innocent.
She was and is anything but.

ColScott said...

Note to self--- Finish argument with Monk later after the dry humping ceases.