JEMPUD in the comments writes
With regard to this latest posting "Leslie Houten Murdering Slut", I have to wonder whether the tenor (and more specifically the phrasing) might not be telling us as much, if not more, about Col Scott than it does about LVH. I am indifferent to LVH's guilt/innocence, and was not part of the legal machine that put her there. But a cold review of her lengthy incarceration suggests that thirty-eight years after the events there should be some kind of statute of limitations. Given that her continued presence in jail is a political issue rather than a legal one, does it not call for some examination of a process that allows, for example, 'victim's family rights' at hearings to people who have no relation to the victim of the parolee?
And should the people who continue to impede her being paroled when the whole legal system cries out that ‘yes, like it or not, she should be allowed to go free’, not themselves be arraigned for some kind of habeas corpus, fuelled by vengeance rather than justice? And, can a momentary lapse of judgment (induced by any combination of: youth, emotional immaturity, lack of self confidence, overdependence on a charismatic leader one is desperate to curry favour with, immense peer pressure, mind-altering drugs and the exhilaration, over-exuberance and hedonistic thrill of being young and dropping out in a happy, hippy, hedonistic age), even when leading to such terrible circumstances, not be considered ‘paid’ by now. I'm sure that all of us have at some stage done something without due thought of the consequences, egged on by people and circumstances we are unable or unwilling to control. And been prepared to pay for our stupidity/thoughtlessness. And after due time and process been prepared to show signs of atonement. In such cases is it not reasonable to hope for forgiveness? Forgiveness is the true mark of the Christian, and also of the rational mind – vengeance that of the heathen and of the mindless bigot. Let he (or her) that is without sin … Jem
The Great and Powerful Col Comments- I know many Christians and thus am proud to be a heathen. Christians are the man reason this world is going to hell in a handbag. That said, Leslie DOES deserve to be forgiven. Forgiveness does NOT mean that your punishment is eradicated. It means that your apology is accepted. You say you are sorry, Mommy still loves you and you STILL stand in the corner and apologize to your icky brother. Here is a quote from the Evil Mark Turner's website for YOU to digest, Jemmy-
The following are excerpts from Leslie Van Houten's trial testimony:
"I had a knife and Patricia had a knife. We just started stabbing and cutting up the lady."
"I stabbed her. I don't know if it was before or after death but I stabbed her."
When asked if she felt sorry, she answered: "That's only a five-letter word. It can't bring back anyone."
"What can I feel? It's happened. She's gone. You can't undo something that's done."
When asked if she felt ashamed, she replied "What is ashamed?"
When asked if she felt like crying, she replied "For her death? If I cry, it's for death itself. She's not the only person who died."
The following excerpt is from "Helter Skelter:"
In interviewing Dianne, I learned a number of things which hadn’t come out in her earlier interviews. While they were in the desert together, at Willow Springs, Patricia Krenwinkel had told her that she had dragged Abigail Folger from the bedroom into the living room of the Tate residence. And Leslie Van Houten, after admitting to her that she had stabbed someone, had commented that at first she had been reluctant to do so, but then she’d discovered the more you stabbed, the more fun it was.
Another excerpt from "Helter Skelter:"
Still think this murdering harlot (think FIFTH COMMANDMENT, Christian) should be allowed to roam free? You think that MURDER is a mistake in judgement?
By the time I’d finished my cross-examination on this, Leslie had admitted that Rosemary might still have been alive when she stabbed her; and that she not only stabbed her in the buttocks and possibly the neck, but "I could have done a couple on the back." (As I’d later remind the jury, many of the back wounds were not post-mortem, while one, which severed Rosemary LaBianca’s spine, would have been in and of itself fatal.)