Sunday, April 16, 2006

Mark Turner's Minions


The Col is finishing up his stint in the frozen North and really doesn't need a war with Mark Turner. I read the comments from the long weekend and Dr. Dodoparti and others are all getting harassed by Salem, who Mark says is Wheat. I remember Wheat from previous boards. Wheat is incoherent and a nut. If Salem is Wheat, congrats on getting much better- you at least make sense. But guys, guess what? I am not running a message board. Join KTS if you want to. Or join Mark, until he wipes his out again. The comments are what they are- I don't believe most of them and if you want to get bent out of shape by them, well get a grip. It is just a message board it is not real life. As far as Mark is concerned, my issues ranged before from him banning me from his board. I do not ban anyone - including Salem. Because we have a right to speak, if not to be listened to. I got over that because I LIKE HIS SITE- it is an exceptionally well done site. I would be proud to have a site like that and he should be too. As far as the truth goes, I think he is a bit all over the place. You cannot eat cake and then put it back on the shelf. Here is a post from his board with my comments---

I rarely ever look at that blog but have been hearing stories. This means he looks at it only once a week to see if there is anything good on it- just like I do with his site.

Col Scott got mad when I put the Dennis Rice vest on my website. No, please be truthful- Col Scott stated in detail (the post is still there) that the vest is NOT authentic- that there were only TWO authentic vests- one is gone and I own the other HALF FINISHED one.

We all know Col Scott is tight with Bobby Beausoleil and he talks about how wonderful Beausoleil's vest is. It is wonderful enough to me- people who I have shown it to do not think it is all that- and no where have I on this blog ever said it was the bee's knees or anything. Mark be truthful please!

If I were guessing, Col Scott owns that vest Why guess I stated I own it?
and that's why he got mad when another Family vest came on the market. Why else would he be so angry about it? Mark please show me my anger. Why would I be angry about a fraudulent vest? Can you not be truthful?

Do I expect it to sell? Not at the current price. But I THOUGHT everybody would be happy to see very nice, close-up photos of a Family vest. Yes, if it were actually authentic.
Heck, very few people could afford such an item but we can all entertain ourselves with the photos! Why not just be happy to see it and quit looking for ulterior motives? But you DO have an ulterior motive- to make money for a false Christian ministry.

Now, where do the accusations of Rice being a child molester come from? I don't know. I never said (can you read Mark? Or do you just make things up?) he was a molester. I said he was responsible for his children being molested. Just as bad to me,

I've never heard or seen such a thing that I can remember. If it's out there, feel free to refresh my memory. I suspect this rumor See, the truth is your friend. Dennis kids were at the Ranch and sexually abused while there. No rumors.
came from the story that Andy just posted about above. Bill Nelson's second book had a supposed interview with an unnamed Family member. She said she left the group after she saw Manson molest one of Rice's children. As Andy posted, Rice didn't come along until after the arrests were announced. Manson was already in jail by that time. So does that mean it was Clem then? Why were children there at all?

So basically, why is Col Scott so upset with Dennis Rice? Because he is a fraud who is selling a fraudulent vest and who claims he loves Christ but never loved his own children. Good reasons I think.

Many people question the Christian conversion of Tex, Susan and Bruce. The main reason I might not question it is because they've stuck with it for so long. So have Falwell and Robertson. But they are full of shit too.

If they were making the claim just to win parole, I suspect they'd have given up that scheme many years ago. But, back to Dennis. He was released from prison but returned a time or two. Then he had his religious experience and has stayed out of prison ever since. He didn't abandon it once he was paroled. He's stuck with it nearly 30 years and has made it his life's work. It should be obvious to anybody that he didn't just convert to win parole. So, why be so upset with him? I still think it's purely over the vest. No you don't. The vest is just further lies. Why not interview one of his kids, Mark? Ask for access and see what you learn. WHY NOT?

When such photos (like the vest) come my way in the future, would everybody prefer that I just keep them secret? Or would you prefer that I share them? I seriously thought most people would like to see them. What a crock of shit Mark. You didn't do it to share. GO LOOK AT YOUR SITE. You wanted to sell it to some sade lunatic with too much cash.

Same with the new nude photo of Sandy and Lyn. And same with the Sandy/Lyn knives. Would everybody prefer that I just keep such things to myself or would you like me to share pictures or aim you at the eBay auctions? The photo sold but I had no deal with the owner. I didn't make a cent from it. Who is complaining about those? They were real. Thanks for the tip I enjoyed them.

As for Wheat, she has long plauged any message board she can get on. As I previously stated, I banned her for posting false stories. Even Col Scott has made many jokes about her in the past. My only interest in Wheat is in keeping her off of this message board. I've never seen her driver's license. I've never posted it. What would I have to gain from that? The only photo I've ever seen of her is a weird one that she used to post in her "signature" on Frontera's board. She took a photo of 3 or 4 Manson girls and superimposed her face on one of their bodies. Christ I recall that photo. Wheat is crazy. She is probably better off not on your board. I know you are.

Wheat also posted that she heard I'd been sued for posting a photo of the Willett murder house. Totally untrue. Heck, you can confirm the photo is still online:

http://charliemanson.com/places/720-west-flora.htm

The owner initially complained about the photo because she thought it was a photo that she'd taken. After one e-mail, she totally changed her objections. We've exchanged a great many e-mails. She sent me a large envelope of additional photos of the house (front, back, sides and inside). She even sent me the sketch that her appraiser did. Plus, she made a very nice cash donation to the website. Sweet. Do her kids still love her? Just joshing, Mark.

As for the donations, I put that link on the site when I was laid off from work. In exchange I sent people a very nice CD of scans of over 1000 newspaper articles. For people who gave a little extra, I usually included a DVD of a Manson interview. There were never all that many donations and eventually they pretty much died off. I found a new job and took the donation link off the website. Hell I wish I had that CD- is it too late to donate?
Okay, this rambled on for far too long!


Mark- your site rules, but when you lie you are not fooling ANYONE, okay? Don't twist my words and you and I will be fine. I love the site and I enjoy you for the most part. But the truth is what it is. People can sputter, but facts are facts. Happy All That.

37 comments:

ColScott said...

Salem- Are you Wheat?

agnostic monk said...

hi salem, how was the weather in your parts this easter sunday? we've had 6 weeks of record rainfall in san francisco, today was off and on rain with the sun peeking out (sunshowers as we used to call it back east) but the times throughout the day when it was sunny and bright it was BEAUTIFUL!

went for a drive around the city with a friend after going to church. CHURCH! my mother was very pleased to hear that. had brunch at The Pork Store on Haight street, down the block from charlie's old crash pad on cole street.

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60skid said...
>>>Monk
I see you have a new picture of your lady<<<

hi 60s,

yup, that's my girl, doin her thing.

how are you this fine sunday evening?

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catscradle77 said...
>>>>Ummm...and Col...bees knees???<<<

cats we definitely know each other from a past life or something. I read the Col's new entry in it's entirety and THE BEE'S KNEES comment is what really hit me, in a laughing out loud kinda way.

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60skid said...
>>>Monk
I see you have a new picture of your lady<<<

hi 60s,

yup, that's my girl, doin her thing.

how are you this fine sunday evening?


Good Monk and you ?<<<<

60s! I'm doing alright. beautiful day in san francisco today, a bit drizzly but the sun poked through enough to light up the city and remind me of how lucky and grateful i am to live here. :)

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catscradle77 said...
>>>if I am ever in a street brawl I want the Col. on my side..<<<

shit, are you kidding me? i want the Col. bringin up the rear. just behind the ladies, 2-3 rows behind me. I'll sleep well knowing that's the lineup.

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agnostic monk said...

Sing with me Monk"Thats cuz were bad, were bad we know it"

WE'RE REALLY REALLY BAD!

I can't deal. That's when MJ went from his THRILLER coolness to his complete and utter LAMENESS. And it's all been downhill since.

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catscradle77 said...
>>>but ya know what Monk, it is all good cuz here we are...in the Official TLB blog just having a blast..really like Linda's pigtails<<

I know you think I'm nuts, but Linda's pigtails are cute.

Some folks hold her pigtails against her, as though it was staged for trial.

But look at some pics of the family girls at the ranch and in the desert. pigtails and ponytails were not unheard of. Oh so people want to crucify Linda for her pigtails? Ok well then please crucify the other girls for their NON-STAR PROSECUTION WITNESS pigtails!

:)

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60skid said...
>>>Yes with Monk and I know what you 2 are doing LOL<<

uh, WHAT are we doing exactly? These forums are odd, the way people accuse each other of doing things they aren't doing.

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catscradle77 said...
>>>Looking innocent in my Linda Kasabian pigtails..yanking Monk back into the supply closet..<<<

well twist my arm with your linda pigtails....

:)

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Keith said...
>>>We also want to hear more about the leather thong too.<<<

Linda saw the leather thong on Charlie in the car on the way to LaBianca's, right? She also noticed later he was not wearing it. She also identified it in court "it looks like it".

If Linda pointed out that the sky is blue, there are people who would have a problem with that.

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catscradle77 said...
>>>I aint hurting him, am I Monk?<<<

you talk as though that would be a bad thing!

:)

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catscradle77 said...
>>>I make dat Monk pray...hey Monk, whens the next service?<<<

I told my mom and one of my sisters that i went to easter sunday mass this morning with some friends (on the HAIGHT of all places).

my sister asked me if the holy water burned me.

"it's still sizzling" i told her.

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Dok said...

"catscradle77 said...
Doktor,
After many years in these groups, we all have been accused of being someone we are not...please just dont take it so hard..your input is missed..
Still laughing about yer comment about Leno dropping them kids at the pool..so come on Dok... "

The Doctor is a sucker for a pretty kitty, so I can't let her down. Hello Kitty, I'm back!

Col you are right in every sense of the word right! In my country, a man's honor is very important and we take offense easily when it is insulted. So.. if they ask "would you like white bread or wheat with your order, I'll say 'Ah F*@k not again!'" Wink!

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