Sunday, April 09, 2006

The Perils of the Frozen North


The Col admits his mistakes.

In the comments of the Round Up post, the Col commented that Bugliosi had perjured himself under oath about bringing the newspaper headline MANSON GUILTY NIXON DECLARES into the courtroom.
As the lovely Heaven pointed out, this is not true.
Bugliosi perjured himself about being the source of Bill Farr's story. That is why he went out of his way to say "I only know I didn't" in the Helter Skelter novel. Because he knew people knew he did.
I did not have my Stovitz interview notes with me and just went from memory. I apologize for the error.

67 comments:

Heaven said...

It's no problem hon, we all make boo boo's.. I'm glad I could be of help...

And I appreciate being called lovely...

=)

Spahn84 said...

Heaven is way smarter than the Col

Heaven said...

I wouldn't go that far lol

Col Scott is very well educated when it comes to the crimes. He just made a mistake.. I've been known to make a few myself...

=)

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Savage RDDB-DA said...
"The ultimate "PIG" site, in this humble man's opinion."

Unfortunately, exploitation is rampant in America.

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Jane Doe said...

Religion is one of humanity's worst inventions.

From Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand:

They claim that they perceive a mode of being superior to your existence on this earth. The mystics of spirit call it 'another dimension,' which consists of denying dimensions. The mystics of muscle call it 'the future,' which consists of denying the present. To exist is to possess identity. What identity are they able to give to their superior realm? They keep telling you what it is not, but never tell you what it is. All their identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, they say--and proceed to demand that you consider it knowledge--God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Their definitions are not acts of defining, but of wiping out.

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Savage RDDB-DA said...
"And they keep Manson locked up?"

Do you think he should be free?

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60skid said...

"Next the fake Raven will be selling stuff LOL"

Who is Raven?

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60skid said...
"I also think writing someone to get something to sell ..it very wrong."

I agree with you completely.

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Salem said...
>>>>CM wrote in one letter how the guards would let this BIG black guy out on week ends and open certain cells and this guy would rape CERTAIN inmates. Guards would sit back and laugh.<<<

That doesn't surprise me at all. I'm sure there is a ton of corruption within the prison system. Think about the kind of person that goes into that line of work in the first place? Not that I'd believe anyone in the prison guard line of work is automatically suspect, but I'd imagine it does attract a certain personality type with power issues. Oh no, now *I'M* generalizing!!! :)

Salem did you hear about that study done at Stanford University a while back where they divided the students into two groups (inmates and guards) in a simulated prison and that within a shockingly short amount of time the "guards" were inflicting all kinds of cruel and humiliating punishments onto the "inmates"?

Pretty scary stuff.

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Jane Doe said...

Religion is one of humanity's worst inventions.

From Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand


Anybody who quotes Ayn Rand is A.O.K. in my book.

Let me also offer these:

Author Unknown: "Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned."

Annie Dillard: "An Inuit hunter asked the local missionary priest 'If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?' 'No,' said the priest, 'not if you did not know.' 'Then why,' asked the Inuit earnestly, 'did you tell me?'"

Ghandi: "Christ...I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians, for they are so unlike your Christ."

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60skid said...

"But to let immates be abused by other immates and prison guards is very wrong ..it makes them no better then the prisioner they are guarding ."

I don't believe in the American prison system. It's barbaric. Not enough is being done to rehabilitate these people and help them adjust to society after completing their sentences.

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem
I have seen where Raven claims to be Brenda and Country Sue. I think Raven is another whack job trying to pass herself off as someone she isn't. I have it on good authority that shes a liar. But that probably doesn't come as any surprise.

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Andy said...

bashing? seems more like he's responding.

cortex_jnr said...

I think i can speak for many of us over at the charlie manson message board when I say that you are a very nasty and pathetic woman. Since you are wheat you are not welcome there and i am very happy that you were banned. You insult Mark like the insane woman that you are while he answers your threats like a professional and gives you the courtesy of a reply. If you have nothing nice to say then simply keep your mouth shut. Stay off of our board as you are not welcome there anymore.

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Wheat is exposed by Webmaster:

Now, if anybody saw the posts by "Dianne" please be aware that she continuously harrassed this message board from way back in its early Bravenet and Delphi days. At that time she used the name "Wheat" and currently she's using the name "Salem" on Col Scott's blog. Anybody that has seen her posts in the past knows that she's claimed all kind of rediculous things such as:

Her ex-husband went to Spahn Ranch.

Her ex-mother-in-law knew Jay and was invited to Cielo.

An uncle was in a motorcycle gang that bought pot at Spahn.

Another uncle was in the CIA and went into the Tate house after the murders and confiscated celebrity porn tapes.

Her ex-husband was in the army with Sandy's non-existant brother.

She couldn't remember where she put her copies of the trial transcripts (how do you lose that many boxes?)

She had one of Manson's leather thongs.

She destroyed the thong.

But she still had it.

She had a bunch of Manson letters in her attic.

Her husband made her destroy them.

But she managed to quote from letters that "I'm holding in my hand."

She loved Manson.

But she hated him once she hooked up with a fan of Van Houten.

But she still loved him when that friend wasn't around.

She's supposedly been in contact with Sandy for years and gave the wrong phone number as it was listed in atwa's WhoIs record.

She still claimed to have regular conversations with Sandy long after she moved and any such number would definitely be wrong.

She claimed to swap e-mail with Sandy although Sandy will not touch a computer. She also gave an e-mail address for Sandy. If you googled it, it was obviously somebody elses.

She spotted a scan of a check on Hollywood Hangover and claimed it was Brenda's new name. There was absolutely no connection and the site is very clear on that.

It goes on and on, but the first few items should make it pretty clear why she has no place on any message forum that is serious and truthful.

cortex_jnr said...

wheat, you owe webmaster an apology as well as everyone else over on the CM.COM message board.
whoever col scott is he should throw you off his blog for acting the way you do. youre such a pitiful excuse for life that im amazed that you can show your face anywhere. why do you feel the need to lie? is it that you just crave attention?

Andy said...

well it didnt take long to get hacked since i only posted that first message by me

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andy said...
>>>whoever col scott is he should throw you off his blog for acting the way you do.<<<

I know very little about cm.com, mark turner, or this fued between he and salem, so I probably should not stick my nose in where it doesn't belong, but I DID want to interject that Salem does not act abusively on the Col's blog at all. She and I disagree on a lot (Sandy, Linda K, Manson himself), but other than being somewhat secretive and evasive here and there she's still friendly and respectful to most everyone in here.

I do not think the Col should kick her off his blog - I doubt he would anyway but it would be a shame if he did.

Andy said...

ok, obviously people can create an account with the same name as another person. For the record I only made that first post that i didnt think mark is doing the bashing and the other one about my account being hacked. Its not hacked just someone posting using the same name. its a shame that people are so lame that even with the saftety of just being on a computer they're still afraid to talk as themselves. Im also the one whos posted on the CM board with this same name. uptil now at least.

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ok, obviously people can create an account with the same name as another person. For the record I only made that first post that i didnt think mark is doing the bashing and the other one about my account being hacked. Its not hacked just someone posting using the same name. its a shame that people are so lame that even with the saftety of just being on a computer they're still afraid to talk as themselves. Im also the one whos posted on the CM board with this same name. uptil now at least.

agnostic monk said...

happy easter everyone!

:)

agnostic monk said...

god bless us everyone!

(monk just got home from one too many beers)

:)

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Salem said...

She couldn't remember where she put her copies of the trial transcripts (how do you lose that many boxes?)

????????????
where did this come from???
i never said i had any transcripts!
this is NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salem said...

Another uncle was in the CIA and went into the Tate house after the murders and confiscated celebrity porn tapes.


another LIE
mu uncle worked in Washington and heard thr the grapevine tapes were taken out of a house in anadale va!
Go get a life andi who ever u are!

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Salem said...

She destroyed the thong.
NO I HAVE IT SWEETHEART!

But she still had it. YES I DO!

She had a bunch of Manson letters in her attic. YES I DO

Her husband made her destroy them.
NO THAT IS A LIE.

But she managed to quote from letters that "I'm holding in my hand."
MANY TIMES I HAVE QUOTED HIS LETTERS

She loved Manson.
I DO NOT LOVE MANSON, I FEEL SORRY FOR HIM, I FEEL SORRY FOR THE CHILD HE WAS AND HOW HE WAS RAISED, I THINK HE WAS RAILROADED AND NEVER GOT A FAIR TRAIL.

But she hated him once she hooked up with a fan of Van Houten.
I HAVE NEVER HATED CM.

But she still loved him when that friend wasn't around.
THIS MAKES NO SENSE .

She's supposedly been in contact with Sandy for years and gave the wrong phone number as it was listed in atwa's WhoIs record.
YA , LIL SNEAK FOR MARK WAS HUNTING, I GAVE A NUMBER BUT NOT SANDY'S NO* I AM NOT STOOOPID! lol
I CAN PLAY JUST AS DIRTY AS MARK. SO ALLONE , REMEMBER THAT .
3 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH ME WHEN I HAVE TALKED TO SANDY ..
I KNOW HOW MANY VULTURES ARE FLYING, I WOULD NEVER GIVE OUT A ADDY OR A NO* TO ANYONE NOT IN THE WHEEL*
OOOOOOOOOO
I DO KNOW A CERTAIN GROUP THAT ARE IN AZ NOW, DOING SOME WORK FOR CM.
OMG.......BUT I AM INSANE SO DONT MIND ME! lmao

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cortex_jnr said...

You know Brenda. Webmaster says you are a FAKE and I believe him.
Sandy and Brenda would have nothing to do with such an insane woman.

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cortex_jnr said...

keith makes a good point wheat. we do have your picture as you can see because the link was posted for all to see.

why not be a good sport and do the right thing honey.

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