Monday, September 04, 2006

Late Show Part 1

hmmmm

32 comments:

Salem said...

very interesting since CM doesnt fit the mold.

chasingbunnies said...

Charles Manson doesn't fit the profile of a serial killer. A serial killer usually starts by torturing and/or killing animals. They are fascinated with fire and are bed wetters. At least that's the triad that I hear most often from these FBI profilers like Robert Ressler. (I'm sure there are exceptions to this triad.) They usally work alone or with one other person. They have to kill at least three people over a stretch of time in order to be considered a serial murderer. Killing three people at once would make them a mass murderer, or a rampage killer. Charlie isn't either one of those. His followers are. Serial killers have a cooling off period between each murder that lasts for months or even years. Charlie didn't do that.

Besides...

CHARLIE WAS NEVER PROVEN TO HAVE KILLED ANYONE! SO HOW CAN HE BE A MASS MURDERER, OR A SERIAL KILLER? LOL!
cb

chasingbunnies said...

"It wasn't from a specific case," he points out. "It just became evident that I was dealing with a lot of cases that were repetitive homicides. The media was calling all of them ‘mass murder’ without any differentiation, and my colleagues and I became aware of the fact that this was too general. We thought we ought to come up with a way to identify different forms of homicidal behaviors, so we started coming up with terms. 'Serial' became more or less self-evident because I'd been to England and there they called repetitive crimes 'crimes in a series' or 'series crimes.' I didn't want to just lift the British term, but I was thinking along those lines. When I was a kid, I'd go to the movies and we'd watch these ten-minute serial adventures that they used before the main feature and it took several weeks to play out the story. So from that I started calling these crimes ‘serial crimes.’"

Robert Ressler
Former FBI Profiler

Salem said...

nice read CB!
thank you.
:)

meatwad said...

Was Pinochet a mass murderer? Was Pol Pot (he indirectly murdered 2 million fucking people and never shot anybody).

What planet did you guys come from?

Salem said...

meatwad said...
Was Pinochet a mass murderer? Was Pol Pot (he indirectly murdered 2 million fucking people and never shot anybody).

What planet did you guys come from?

3:15 PM, September 04, 2006

I SAID
CHARLES MANSON DIDNT FIT THE MOLD. HE WASNT A MASS MURDERER. HE NEVER KILED ANYONE.
NOR WAS HE A SERIAL KILLER.

meatwad said...

SALEM SAID:

I SAID
CHARLES MANSON DIDNT FIT THE MOLD. HE WASNT A MASS MURDERER. HE NEVER KILED ANYONE.
NOR WAS HE A SERIAL KILLER.

Duh...he is a murderer whether you like it or not.

Sooooo....are you saying he didnt actually have to stab or shoot so he is innocent?

Salem said...

Sooooo....are you saying he didnt actually have to stab or shoot so he is innocent?

yes I am.

He cut Hinmans ear. He shot Crowe.
But he didnt KILL them. Oh he hit Lynn once! and Dianne Lake.

mass... puts to mind Jim Jones.
or Hitler.
not Charles Manson.

Salem said...

Most mass murderers are male, white, conservative and come from relatively stable, lower-middle-class backgrounds. They are not usually adopted, illegitimate or institutionalized as children. They are usually people who aspire to more than they can achieve. That sure doesnt fit Manson does it?


Julio Gonzalez came to the United States in the 1980 Mariel boat lift. Ten years later, in a fit of jealousy, he killed eighty-seven partiers. Pissed off at his ex-girlfriend, Lydia Feliciano, who was dancing with someone else, Julio bought a buck's worth of gasoline and torched the Bronx's Happy Land Social Club killing nearly everyone inside. Only six survived. As luck would have it, one of them was lucky Lydia, his ex-girlfriend.

meatwad said...

Salem said,

"mass... puts to mind Jim Jones.
or Hitler.
not Charles Manson."

Ok....so where is the line?

Ten?

Twenty?

Or the eight or nine....Tate..Frykowsky..LaBiancas....etc.

Whats the cutoff?

chasingbunnies said...

meatwad said...
Was Pinochet a mass murderer? Was Pol Pot (he indirectly murdered 2 million fucking people and never shot anybody).

What planet did you guys come from?

3:15 PM, September 04, 2006

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That would come under 'genocidal maniac.' Same as Hitler.

meatwad said...

Meatwad said,

"Sooooo....are you saying he didnt actually have to stab or shoot so he is innocent?

Salem said,

"yes I am."

Well Salem....it appears that you are opposite of everybody with a brain on the planet.

Care to withdraw your above statement?

chasingbunnies said...

meatwad said...
Salem said,

"mass... puts to mind Jim Jones.
or Hitler.
not Charles Manson."

Ok....so where is the line?

Ten?

Twenty?

Or the eight or nine....Tate..Frykowsky..LaBiancas....etc.

Whats the cutoff?

4:00 PM, September 04, 2006
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Genocide goes hand in hand with a powerful dictator, such as Hitler etc...There is a book that Robert Ressler wrote that distinguishes different types of murderes, and motives and profiles the different types, for the purposes of profiling them in order to catch them.
cb

meatwad said...

Bunny said,

"Genocide goes hand in hand with a powerful dictator, such as Hitler etc...There is a book that Robert Ressler wrote that distinguishes different types of murderes, and motives and profiles the different types, for the purposes of profiling them in order to catch them. "

I agree this isnt about genocide....far from it.

The point you miss is that people can be manipulated into causing crimes.

And that is CONVICTABLE AND A CRIME IN ANY CIVILIZED SOCIETY.

Sorry for the caps, lol.

Salem said...

The point you miss is that people can be manipulated into causing crimes.
says meatwad.

ok.
you must go along with Bug's LIES!

Salem said...

no i am not goinG to withdraw.Nor am I going to argue with you. I said he did stab, and cut and shoot.
I also said he DID NOT KILL ANYONE.

meatwad said...

Salem said,

"ok.
you must go along with Bug's LIES"

What a cheap shot...your stupidity is showing.

You have no logical answer, so you come back with rhetoric.

I used to think southerners had style...you have none.

Salem said...

I used to think southerners had style...you have none. says meatwad

sorry
your ignorance showing.
if you think CM masterminded this , dont you see you are just a beleiver of Buggies fairy tale.
nuff said.

chasingbunnies said...

Charlie WAS convicted and sentenced to death along with the others. He will die in prison. Rest assured he will never get out. I just don't agree with BUG's version about motive I think CM was a scapegoat.
cb

Synesthesiac said...

Charlie innocent ? Hardly

Charlie has culpability, Charlie 's got conviction, conspiracy, theft, tampering, contempt and basic thuggery in general. Charlie's got no murder though.

Salem said...

Synesthesiac said...
Charlie innocent ? Hardly

Charlie has culpability, Charlie 's got conviction, conspiracy, theft, tampering, contempt and basic thuggery in general. Charlie's got no murder though.

5:54 PM, September 04, 2006


yes
CM admits he is guilty of consiracy.But never has said to what. Unless it was going into Leno's home.
Tampering, yes, he did go back to clean up and find a knife, tho thats not proven.
yep. he was a thug, he stole things in his life. He also had dealings with drugs.
But NO murder.
Peace

Salem said...

Hope everyone had a nice Holiday week end.

and Happy Birthday CB!

I Luv Salem said...

I just want To Say I Luv Salem

Salem said...

I Luv Salem said...
I just want To Say I Luv Salem

9:59 AM, September 05, 2006

thank you
I dont know who you are, but thank you.

I Luv Salem said...

Salem said...
I Luv Salem said...
I just want To Say I Luv Salem

9:59 AM, September 05, 2006

thank you
I dont know who you are, but thank you.
yourwelcome salem.you are the best

I Luv Salem said...

salem ,
please tell charlie ilov him ok ?

chasingbunnies said...

Salem has a secret admirer
:)

i luv salem said...

How did you get to be so smart about this case? You are so smart.

Salem said...

i luv salem said...
How did you get to be so smart about this case? You are so smart.

11:03 AM, September 05, 2006

This is the Cols blog, so me thinks the Col is the smart one.

i luv salem said...

You're so right about Charlie, Salem. He didn't deserve to get locked up for what those dam kids did.

Salem said...

i luv salem said...
You're so right about Charlie, Salem. He didn't deserve to get locked up for what those dam kids did.

12:23 PM, September 05, 2006


I agree. I think Charlie was railroaded.
I think these so called friends he had turned on him, lied and now hide behind the Cross.

I Luv Salem said...

Salem said...
i luv salem said...
You're so right about Charlie, Salem. He didn't deserve to get locked up for what those dam kids did.

12:23 PM, September 05, 2006


I agree. I think Charlie was railroaded.
I think these so called friends he had turned on him, lied and now hide behind the Cross.

You are so right Peace