Friday, September 15, 2006

20 Questions for Mark Turner
















I went to the well-designed website of the evil Mark Turner and it reads that on Halloween, "MANSON will be seen around the world." Is he talking about the film? Or people in masks?

This got me thinking, what does Mark Turner stand for? He seems to be pro-Bug. And pro-Debra. But even that is unclear. He's against the killers, but then so is everyone. But he's pro-Davis. And Catherine the cop-shooter. And Dennis the Family Man.

The thing is, the site is SO well done and so useful he must be fairly obsessed with the case. Like we are. He's also obsessed with censorship on his board.

So the Col decided to write up one of those email interviews and send it to Turner. You will see below that the questions are clear and non-antagonistic. If he replies, I will print them here as is.

I hope he replies. Those of you that know him, please alert him to this post.

"Hi Mark. I really like your site but I can't figure out what you are all about. Here are some questions that I would like answers for. I will run all answers unedited for the blog readers. Thanks in advance."

1- Do you think Charlie Manson, who you named your site after should be released? Why or why not?

2- How did you feel about the information gathering techniques used by the late Bill Nelson?

3- Which of the Family in prison would you be okay with being released and moving to your block?

4- How do you feel about Debra Tate keeping her father's body from a proper burial?

5- Do you own a brick from the Cielo Drive House?

6- If Vincent BUGliosi perjured himself during a Capital Offense case the punishment is the death penalty. Do you think he deserves it?

7- If Bruce Davis has found Jesus and you like Jesus is it the same Jesus or maybe two clones?

8- Did you ever have a martini with Patti Tate while she was alive? What kind?

9- Do you think Linda Kasabian should have a statue erected of herself in Chatsworth California?

10- If you are talking about the documentary Manson having midnight screenings on Halloween Eve, how do you feel about people holding up a short, stupid non-killer as a boogeyman?

11- If Dennis Rice was doomed to purgatory for allowing his small babies to be molested at the Ranch, how much time out does he get for converting to Christianity?

12- What weight is Gypsy pushing at the moment and is she still in Federal protection?

13- Which of the Manson girls made that exquisite vest you feature on your site?

14- In a free internet society what is gained by squelching dissent at one site when it can and does just move elsewhere? Phrased differently, "Is it not easier for a control freak to control dissent when it stays in one's home?"

15- In the Bible, we are told that he without sin should cast the first stone. How many rocks do you feel worthy of tossing at Leslie and Bobby?

16- If Clem wanted to paint your house mauve, would you let him?

17- Which of the many tomes in the Case Lore do you refer to the most?

18- What is your favorite Charlie Manson song?

19- Jessica or Lindsay?

20- Finally, how do you reconcile all these ministries you support with the reality of nine gruesome, senseless killings?

38 comments:

Pristash said...

Purgatory? Me thinks the Col must be catholic!

Salem said...

GREAT QUESTIONS COL.

I DOUBT HE WILL REPLY.
HOPE U HVE A GREAT WEEK END.

PEACE

Salem said...

Finally, how do you reconcile all these ministries you support with the reality of nine gruesome, senseless killings?

Because he is a brown noser, I have had the pleasure to meet on line.
WJY

Jimmy_Crossroads said...

20- Finally, how do you reconcile all these ministries you support with the reality of nine gruesome, senseless killings?

the way i see it the great reconciler for this sorta hypocrisy is $$$
jimmy

Joe said...

I have two questions in response to the Col's questions:

Re: #12- What weight is Gypsy pushing at the moment and is she still in Federal protection?

HAS THAT EVER BEEN CONFIRMED?

re: 14- In a free internet society what is gained by squelching dissent at one site when it can and does just move elsewhere? Phrased differently, "Is it not easier for a control freak to control dissent when it stays in one's home?"

HOW "FREE" EXACTLY, IS YOUR SITE, WHEN YOU POST THE WARNING ON YOUR BLOGGER BOX: "Comment moderation has been enabled. All comments must be approved by the blog author."

deadwoodhbo said...

good post Col .........mark had a good post board but it isnt no more i e mailed him to ask why and he never replyed charming man (not)

ColScott said...

JOE

Delaying a post so I can make sure it isn't off topic nonsense or people claiming they know Charlie is not repression of any kind, foolio. No one has ever been BANNED here (mainly because there is no mechanism to do so, lol) and even an obnoxious post like yours is still posted. Try that with Evil Mark and you will be banned and then mocked. On occasion I have to delay comments because the children get restless and forget to take their meds. That is cool. I am happy you are here, but if you must criticize my greatness, be funnier.

Col

Heaven said...

Moderation doesn't inhibit free speech...

=)

ColScott said...

Shockingly no reply yet from Turner

Joe said...

Col wrote: "Delaying a post so I can make sure it isn't off topic nonsense or people claiming they know Charlie is not repression of any kind, foolio. No one has ever been BANNED here (mainly because there is no mechanism to do so, lol) and even an obnoxious post like yours is still posted. Try that with Evil Mark and you will be banned and then mocked. On occasion I have to delay comments because the children get restless and forget to take their meds. That is cool. I am happy you are here, but if you must criticize my greatness, be funnier."


Col: First of all, you don't "delay" comments you kill them before anyone else sees them. I know, you've done it to me. And each time when I've questioned one of your more outlandish claims. As anyone knows who reads this board, what little I post, when I do, is never assaultive, confrontational or suggestive that I have connections to Manson people (I don't). I simply question. As I did in the post earlier today which you ridiculed and called "obnoxious." So you delayed that one -- what will you do with this one? Will it join my other "delayed" AKA never seen posts?

And, since you seem to be without a dictionary, here's the definition of "censor" from Websters:

"To examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable (censor the news); also : to suppress or delete as objectionable (censor out indecent passages)."

If it's a "free internet society" as you call it, that's not the kind of freedom I want. Put up the "obnoxious" blogs without censorship and let us decide. Zeig Heil!

spookycatz said...

No reply? What a shocker!

Lololol.....

=^..^=

Dok said...

This one is my favorite:

"16- If Clem wanted to paint your house mauve, would you let him?"

4Sharon said...

Col., I LOVED your name "foolio", in your reply to Joe. That name made me laugh. LOL

4Sharon said...

P.S. - I love it that we can freely speak here...if it were on Deborah's message board, you would be FRIED.

ColScott said...

Joe Foolio-
your problem is your lack of education, like so many on the internet. Freedom of speech is not an unlimited thing. You don't have the right to come into my house and espose homophobia, for example. Should you do so, I have the right to remove you and perhaps have you arrested if you will not leave. You have the right to write "Joe Foolio Forever" on a piece of paper or a canvas- you don't have the right to do so on the side of a store.

The way the world works- I invite you to come here and post. Then we get some very strange people who don't make any sense. Or Salem who thinks she speaks with Charlie via Ouija Board. So then, I don't need these posts in my house. So we go on moderation for a while. Might be a week- might be a day. Mostly, as the regulars know, it is a free for all in here.

As far as ever not publishing one of your posts, I don't think that was true. Unless you did so under some sort of attack name. Outlandish Claims? This is the ONLY site on the web that consistently speaks the truth. So come on, point out an untrue claim by me. I defy you.

Finally, on the Turner site, people that don't like him are removed. Here, you don't like me, I think you are a foolio, and look, you are still here!

Col

Joe said...

Col. writes:

"Joe Foolio- your problem is your lack of education, like so many on the internet. Freedom of speech is not an unlimited thing. You don't have the right to come into my house and espose homophobia, for example. Should you do so, I have the right to remove you and perhaps have you arrested if you will not leave. You have the right to write "Joe Foolio Forever" on a piece of paper or a canvas- you don't have the right to do so on the side of a store."

Okay, Big Shot, by that logic what the hell gives you the right to bash Mark Turner for "moderating" (as you so Bush-esquely put it) his Goddamed house?! If you can censor, why the hell can't he?

And here's a question for you, since you're so exacting about your "phrasing." On You Tube you describe your site as "the only official site about the Charles Manson Case." What exactly, Colonel, makes it "official"? Who or what agency, praytell, declared your site "the only official site about the Charles Manson Case" and, if you please, by what process?

Oh, and as for my posts that you censored in the past, how in the hell am I supposed to produce them when they were deleted by you? You think I save what I put on this silly page???

ColScott said...

Joe Foolio-

Paragraph One- Turner does NOT moderate. He bans and deleted the truth. So you are arguing from a wrong premise.

Paragraph Two- what do you mean on YOU TUBE, uneducated one? It says it on the top of the page every time you log in. We ARE the only Official Site on the web. This is all explained in a post a year ago. Only this site is Official on the whole www.

Paragraph three- if you think this is silly, why come here? Doesn't that make you a Silly Foolio? You can't produce them, I say they don't exist, we have a draw.

Col

Salem said...

Or Salem who thinks she speaks with Charlie via Ouija Board.

I dont have a Ouija board.
sorry if CM does have connect with me...do u talk to Charlie?
Peace

ColScott said...

No I stopped listening to the voices in my head
you should too

Salem said...

why Col!!!!
what has happened to you?
you KNOW better. Just ask Bobby what CM said. You will see.
if not, oh well.
Peace

Salem said...

*shakes head*
no voices in here*
:)

Salem said...

Hope the Nice Col comes back soon.

ya know we love ya.
feel better soon!

chasingbunnies said...

10- If you are talking about the documentary Manson having midnight screenings on Halloween Eve, how do you feel about people holding up a short, stupid non-killer as a boogeyman?

---
There is no boogeyman, that's what 'the boogeyman' is all about. It' the belief in him that makes him real. Charlie isn't the boogeyman, he's a human and he did not kill anyone. He is not The Devil, or Satan or anything of the kind. I don't even think he is evil... The BUGLOSIE-MAN continues to perptuate the myth, with the help of the media.
Dig deeper into your resources people and you will see that there is no boogeyman. There is no Tooth Fairy, or Santa Clause either...but, we need something to keep our kids straight and scared so that we can control them.
cb

spookycatz said...

Why does paranoia run rampant in all sites devoted to TLB/Manson?

=^..^=

deadwoodhbo said...

This is a message for Joe.The Col,s blog is one of the best on the internet ,i have belonged to many manson blogs and most are no good.
And to Col Scott keep up the good work ,your blog is very good.

deadwoodhbo said...

I hate nothing more than people who claim to know Charlie. Its the most anoying thing going,i know of one person on the net who writes to charlie and does know Him .His name is Kurt.Has for Raven ,white rabbitt and salem the storys getting very old.YAWN YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salem said...

deadwoodhbo said...
I hate nothing more than people who claim to know Charlie. Its the most anoying thing going,i know of one person on the net who writes to charlie and does know Him .His name is Kurt.Has for Raven ,white rabbitt and salem the storys getting very old.YAWN YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

7:32 PM, September 17, 2006

sorry sweety.
..there are many who are in contact with C* and they are close friends.

4Sharon said...

What dummies, claiming to be good friends with Charlie - they they are claiming they love Sociopaths and are one themselves. Sickos

deadwoodhbo said...

4Sharon said...
What dummies, claiming to be good friends with Charlie - they they are claiming they love Sociopaths and are one themselves. Sickos

5:07 PM, September 18, 2006

I am not a friend of Charlies i dont know Him at all,However i surport Charlie 100%.

Salem said...

I am not a friend of Charlies i dont know Him at all,However i surport Charlie 100%.
SAYS DEADWOOD

How do you support him deadwood?
4Sharon...I am not in LOVE with CM. I just feel sorry for him. His life has ben one big cluster *uck.after another...
I feel sorry for the Man that never had a childhood. ( not even close to a normal one)
I think it is wrong for him to still be in prison all these years when HE did NOT KILL anyone!!!!!!

deadwoodhbo said...

Salem said...
I am not a friend of Charlies i dont know Him at all,However i surport Charlie 100%.
SAYS DEADWOOD

How do you support him deadwood?
4Sharon...I am not in LOVE with CM. I just feel sorry for him. His life has ben one big cluster *uck.after another...
I feel sorry for the Man that never had a childhood. ( not even close to a normal one)
I think it is wrong for him to still be in prison all these years when HE did NOT KILL anyone!!!!!!

6:56 AM, September 19, 2006

how do i surport Him?boy you are getting to be quite the pest,however i find this bickering back and forth quite amuseing HEHEHE!!!!!!!oh did i mention its none of your business how i surport him lol whoo hooo!!!!!!!

Salem said...

Did I mention spell check?
I'm no pest. You seem to be the one that wants to start verbal attacks.
so go ahead. Knock ya self out.

Heaven said...

I don't talk to Manson, but I do have an autograph from Billy Flynn, if that counts for anything LOL

=)

4Sharon said...

I too feel sorry for the sad childhood Manson had. Tragic. However, we are given choices, and he continued to make one bad one after another. Many children have bad childhoods, yet grow up to be productive, law abiding citizens. Being a sociopath, he led alot of people astray.

Salem said...

4Sharon said...
I too feel sorry for the sad childhood Manson had. Tragic. However, we are given choices, and he continued to make one bad one after another. Many children have bad childhoods, yet grow up to be productive, law abiding citizens. Being a sociopath, he led alot of people astray.

yes..
His childhood til his adulthood was spent in institutions...and for the era he was born , it was very hard for him to adjust , esp not having any positive role models for any length of time in his life. Seems he went on to do what he learned as a child. Trying to live on the steets at the age of 9 thr 13 HAD to have been so hard.
He just never fit into our world after all the years inside prison.

I just think to myself how could a mother do that to her ONLY son.
It's so hard for me to understand that. I think when he got out and had all these people around him, that approved of him and liked his music he thought he had found some sort of connection/family.
Peace

deadwoodhbo said...

Salem said...
Did I mention spell check?
I'm no pest. You seem to be the one that wants to start verbal attacks.
so go ahead. Knock ya self out.

12:45 PM, September 19, 2006

lol okie dokie

deadwoodhbo said...

Salem said...
Did I mention spell check?
I'm no pest. You seem to be the one that wants to start verbal attacks.
so go ahead. Knock ya self out.

oh and by the way i think you should read some of Charlie,s letters before you point the spelling bee at me ,if you have any that is.

4Sharon said...

As I said on a prior thread, sad childhoods or not, if you cannot BE civilized, then you do not belong in Civilization! Charlie is right where he needs to be! He's a little sociopath and does not belong in society. He led alot of young people astray. There is no excuse for that. That is why we are given CHOICES in life and he continually chose wrong. I do feel bad he had the sad childhood, but that gave him no right to live the way he did and lead others astray. Uncivilized little sociopath chicken is what he is. Too chicken to do his own will, so he sends others to do it for him.