Monday, February 20, 2006

The Minotaur is Your Friend


Labyrinth 13 is a book available by Curt Rowlett at LuLu.com. The Col bought it upon its release in December because he read about it on Amazon under the review of another book called Sex and Rockets. The Col really liked Sex and Rockets. So he bought Labyrinth 13.

The Col enjoyed reading Labyrinth 13, but then the Col enjoys reading any book that questions reality and the status quo. The information on Jack Parsons was a repeat, and some of the points made about the Zodiac Killer were, umm, off the mark. But it wasn't a bad book. No, a bad book would be something by Adam GoRightly.

If you have a few dollars to spend, try the book. Here. It will make some good bedtime reading for you.

So anyway, Curt doesn't know that the Col read his book already. Hell, I was on his email newsletter reminding me to buy it. But he likes the Blog. Everyone likes the Blog except Oogly and Debra. And Curt wrote me an email.

Hello Col. Scott:

I am writing a book on the Manson case and am hoping that you might be able to assist me with some information.

I found a comment on a thread on your blog that mentions a possible gay relationship between Steven Parent and William Garretson that I found to be quite intriguing (see www.tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/01/
off-thread-upon-odd-thread.html)

Can you supply me with any more information about this? Maybe even some sources?

Also, would you have any objections to my mentioning your blog in my book? If not, I would be interested in learning a bit about your background as you seem to be very involved in researching the case.

I also wanted to let you know that I have just discovered your blog and have spent the last couple of days reading through most of the archives. You have some very interesting and well-thought out information there. I thought I knew a lot about the Manson case, but learned several new things since having been to your blog.

Thank you,

Curt Rowlett

Now, there are only two books the Col wants to read about this case- THE BUG, the unauthorized biography and The Manson Family Encyclopedia. The Col is too lazy to write either, so he hopes that is what Curt is writing. The Col DID want to read Tom O'Neill's book and Gypsy's book and Linda's book and so many others. But they don't come out and GoRightly's did. Life sucks. Hard.

So Curt, I don't know what you are writing but you can have my $15 now if you want it. I need to keep my shelves complete.

I don't know about a comment on a thread on my blog... did you read the whole blog? You need to research thoroughly in this case. No one but me does. There is a posting somewhere- google it- with a photo that reads "Homophobia is so Gay" In it we learn that two cops and Aaron Stovitz told me that Steve and Bill had a tryst. They investigated everything those cops. But don't take my word for it. Do your homework and read the police reports. They are on CM .com or Bret's site. Or buy it from Aesnihil like I did. William G was a "known homosexual" like they used to say. And Steve was experimenting I guess. Don't know. Doesn't really matter in the long run. It had nothing to do with being slaughtered.

Or I guess you could believe that a young boy from El Monte was visiting guest houses in Bel Air at midnight to sell clock radios to a virtual stranger.

I still believe Paul McCartney is gonna invite me to join the Beatles to replace John.

As for mentioning the Blog, no worries, please do. Just note that we are the only OFFICIAL TLB Blog on the worldwide web.

As for background, I am Col Scott, originally from the Ronson Board. co-opter of the name Harold False from an unmitigated douche bag who hates me, a disbarred attorney from Torrance California, a private investigator from New Rochelle or a little known film producer. I annoyed the piss out of the Yahoo RTV group as well as Linda Mann's board and later Mark Turner's first board. Ultimately I met my match with the Yahoo KTS housewives, who, after accusing me of horrible things, beat some sense into me and found internet friendship. I am mentioned in the closing chapter of that GoRightly book but please do not buy a copy. Like Charlie, everywhere and no where is my home. I adore Bobby and think he should be free. I hope SA and PK and TW never see daylight again, and do not think they ever will. I think CM made a deal with the devil to be famous and has to live with that deal. And, more that anything, I want to know WHAT HAPPENED that weekend in 1969 and WHY. The truth.

I am whoever you say I am. If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?

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Heaven said...

Monk,

Maybe it's for the same reason that people communicate with Manson and Tex...

I don't see how anyone can be "close" to someone they've never met....

I personally haven't talked to any members of the family, but I have spoken with someone who was very close to Jay Sebring... Very close...

=)

Heaven said...

You are most welcome... Happy reading!

=)

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Heaven said...

Yeah, I knew what it was, but it was the best I could find on short notice...

I have a copy of the trial transcripts that were given to me by a friend..

I think you can buy copies now from Ebay and other sites...

Or, you could call the courthouse where the trial took place.. See if you can buy copies there

Worth a shot...

=)

Heaven said...

60skid,

I didn't discuss the murders with this person out of respect..

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WHITE RABBITT said...

see george wanted to bring the girls to join sandy and squeaky at spahn, it got ugly and bad mean, most of the girls from naturaulism been to spahn george was murdered becouse there was a slip in lsd rescue over joining the family, sandy and squeaky had been in hollywood at the naturaulism house,

Heaven said...

Salem hon,

You can be a murderer and still love animals.. I realize Manson didn't kill the Tate/LaBianca victims, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the blood of others on his hands.

I despise spiders and think they should all be erased off my planet, but that doesn't mean I go around kicking puppies lol

There have been a lot of killers who were good to animals. To assume they're all cut from the same cloth is, in my opinion, stereotyping...

It's the same as men who beat up their wives or girlfriends but don't touch their children...

Not everyone is the same...

Marks site just happened to be where I found a topic I was looking for.. I'll post from any site if it's relevant to my point...

I think it's fairly obvious that Manson had a death fixation.. He preached how death was beautiful and together he and Tex gave lessons to the girls on how to kill a person.

He also did shoot Barnard Crowe and assumed he had killed him.. He also sliced the ear off Gary Hinman..

That is not the actions of a gentle loving person. Least not in my opinion.

If Mark kicked Col Scott off his board, that's between Col Scott and Mark... I do like Mark very much and have many wonderful conversations with him. But I don't want to get involved in any issues he may have with other people.. It's not my business...

=)

Heaven said...

Monk,

I wouldn't expect Salem to reply to you.. For some reason he seems concerned only with my posts... lol

I've noticed he hasn't responded to anything you've put out to him today...

=)

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Heaven said...

I dunno,

I think there is some great need to try and prove every single point I've made, wrong...

I noticed that the questions I put out to him, have gone completely ignored...

Oh well... Maybe they went unanswered because there is no answer...

But hey, I have no knowledge on the case, so what do I know?

LOL

=)

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Heaven said...

I've read where he spends more time in solitary then he does in his cell..

I think prison is the only home he's ever known.. In there he is somebody, or at least he was.. He's in his 70's now...

I'm also under the impression that San Quetin is one of the worst prisons in the country... Having never been there myself, I can only go by what I read...

=)

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Heaven said...

60skid,

Yeah, it wasn't true.. Lynette got word that Manson had cancer back in the 80's.. She escaped from prison and tried to get to Manson, but she was found (the next day I believe) and taken back to prison...

Manson has outlived quite a few people associated with the crime.. To name a few would be Kenerak, Paul Fitzgerald, Doris Tate, Patti Tate, Terry Melcher, Bill Nelson.. and even some of Manson's followers are now gone.. Paul Watkins for instance...

As for the hero part, ya got me... I feel sorry for the victims, not the killers...

=)

Heaven said...

Audio,

Yeah, I had read that Manson was moved to Corcoran, in 1989..
I was referring to when he was at SQ...

I think he spends a lot of time in the hole at Corcoran too...

=)

Heaven said...

I hear ya Monk...

It's fine if he wants to pick everything I say apart. I'm used to it from my early days on KTS lol

Just like I did there, I'll also keep posting my thoughts, no matter who doesn't like it...

=)

Heaven said...

Monk,

Before I call it a day, I have a question for you, well, more like your opinion on something...

Manson and Sandy both seem to be very concerned about the treatment of the environment. Sandy even served time for sending out death threats to those she felt were polluting the earth...

That being said, why'd they all leave Spahn, Barker and Myers looking like dumps?

There was trash all over the place, abandoned vehicles, old mattresses, clothes and other garbage left behind...

Why would people so concerned about animals, trees, water and air, leave these places in such a filthy mess?

I'm curious....

WHITE RABBITT said...

george ran naturalism and had all the girls, there was 20 girls maybee 4 guys
if george had brought all the girls to join sandy and squeaky then u would have seen the re birth of the family only much larger
sandy and squeaky wanted them to move everyone to spahn this was before the fire, it would have changed everything

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Heaven said...

Thank you Monk,

I believe you're probably right...

About the Sandy rumor, I have heard back from the person who told me..

They said they heard it on the Mark Turner forum from someone named Ergot... They said it was about a year ago...

Maybe it was true a year ago but isn't anymore... I dunno

=)

Heaven said...

Catscradle,

I don't know my Bible as well as I should, but when my grandmother died, I asked a lot of questions about this stuff...

I was told that there is no memory of this world... I'm told that in Heaven, everyone knows everyone...

So if that's true (and we won't know until we get there) then our loved ones won't know us from this world, and we won't know them..

So basically, the killers won't "know" the victims, and the victims won't "know" the killers.. Not from this life anyway...

But everyone who reads the Bible sees something different, so it's really a matter of each individuals interpretation...

I hope that helps...

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WHITE RABBITT said...

catscraddle where did u find the link to george peters murder

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Heaven said...

Sorry Salem,

I didn't realize you are a girl...

=)

WHITE RABBITT said...

catscraddle
i would like to read the link but the la times did alot on the story and tutched on the manson family conection to the church of naturalism

Heaven said...

Wow... 481 posts...

This has sure been an active topic..

=)

Heaven said...

Satori,

If I had to guess, she's changed her name and living somewhere in the mid west...

They all seem to be living somewhere in the mid west with new names lol

=)

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WHITE RABBITT said...

catscraddle can u get me the link i know the la times posted about the connection between the church of naturalism and manson family

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Heaven said...

I agree with you all about Sharon and Roman...

Contrary to what Debra says, I think Sharon would have eventually left Roman.. A woman is only going to take just so much pain and humiliation..

Debra adamantly denies that Sharon would have divorced Roman. Her defense is "The Tate women don't believe in divorce".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't Patti divorced?

I think with Sharon, it was one thing when Roman was sleeping with women she didn't know, but it was quite another when he began sleeping with her friends.

I think she would have waited to see if being a father calmed him down and if it didn't, I think she would have dropped him like a bad habit...

As for her and Jay getting back together, that could have been very possible... Sadly, we'll never know.

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Heaven said...

60skid..

I've seen Debra say it over on the old official board. Everyone was asking her if she thought Sharon would have divorced Roman and she replied, no, because the Tate women didn't believe in divorce....

Heaven said...

Dennis became "acquainted with the family when he picked up two girls hitch-hiking.. One girls alias was Yeller (not sure who that was) and the other was Patricia Krenwinkle.
Dennis had picked them up and brought them back to his house.. After he showed them his gold records, he had sex with them...

Afterwards, he discovered they had given him The Clap...

Dennis arrived home one night to find Manson and his girls all in and around his house. Many of the girls were topless.

Later that evening, Dennis took part in an LDS induced orgy that Manson oversaw...

It doesn't give specific names of all the girls besides Yeller and Patricia, but suffice it to say he was pretty near all of them at one time or another... They all lived at his house for a while, and Manson freely shared his girls...

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Heaven said...

LOL Satori... Dang typos.. Someday I'll actually start proofreading lol

4Sharon,

I heard the door survived...

=)

Dok said...

Mormon orgies LOL! Thats funny stuff. Hey I think there are pictures of the door on Mark Turner's site. It did survive.

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ColScott said...

Mary Brunner bought a house near her childhood city of Eau Claire in 2000.
This is how the Col's PI found her. I called her. I fedexed her. She doesn't want to talk.

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Unknown said...

Is it possible for you to send me any links pertaining to this inpiticularly .

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