Saturday, September 08, 2012

RIP KTS!


Wow. I knew it was sick but I never thought it would die.

When the Col started this Blog one of the driving forces was I was sick of the ignorance of the internet. The original board that I was glued to for years in the late 1990s by a Clark Ronson ended up in turmoil with imposters, lies, no conclusion and Ronson himself turning out to be an Neve Campbell obsessed lunatic. Then came the only real meeting place over at the GoRightly site- problem was he only wanted to sell poorly written books. Eventually though there was KTS in the Yahoo Groups- Killed The Sixties. Mostly a Kawfee Klatch with women clucking about nonsense, it did at one point become a good place to visit thanks to people like Denise and Heaven who ran it.

The problem was that for many years the ladies would ban the Col on site. They didn't like his knowledge or his table manners. I kept coming back and getting my ass banned. And then started the only Official Blog on the subject mostly to tell the KTS people to go fuck themselves. This of course led to us becoming fast friends.

Heaven gave up. The site lingered for years- it still had good docs and pics and a great montage on the front. And now I randomly checked it and it's gone. Like Bret's site too. Like Bug's diginity.

Yippee Kai Yay.....

23 comments:

J.J. said...

I am sorry to hear this news. I was registered over there and KTS was 1 of the 4 sites that I regularly check for my TLB news fix. (Also Eviliz, Lsb3, and here) Hope that maybe they are moving to a different server or platform.

leary7 said...

Ah, the shelf life of infamy and notoriety. I saw allot of burnout in my years spent knee deep in the JFK conspiracy swamp. But I have to say I am surprised there is so much in TLB land. If one is truly interested in weirdness and evil, where else do you go?
I took a quick look at the contributor list on the Col's site and don't think I have seen two-thirds of those people post. I suppose a good amount of attrition and 'moving on' is inevitable.
I just can't imagine not being interested in TLB news.

Leigh said...

I've been interested in this case off and on since I was in my early teens and read Greg King's flawed Sharon Tate biography. There are times, especially being absorbed in a dark topic, when a rest is required. Well, maybe I'm speaking only for myself...but I would imagine that accounts for a lot of the contributors being MIA - burn out. The flicker of interest in this subject never blows out entirely, but it wanes and I do find myself stepping back at times and needing to devote my psychological resources to something that feels more positive and life-affirming. Thinking about these victims' - or any victims' - last moments and the evil that brought them about is a draining exercise if you're a sensitive soul. Or maybe some of you are a bit more cynical than that...?

Shak El said...

After Heaven left whoever took it over became very rude.

andy said...

i mustve missed out because although i havent looked at that group in years now, the reason i stopped was cause there never seemed to be shit there. you had heaven, but she posted here too for a while. you had white rabbit, i dont think i need to follow that up. uhm...you had every two weeks or so a new ruth anne imposter. and between that a bunch of old hippies flirting with each other. was that site really a good source for info at some point? i know there were and are others not mentioned in the col's post but i just never caught anything good at kts.

andy said...

what ever happened to heaven? did she bloop from the online world of tate labianca manson case studies? we spoke a few times and she seemed like good people and was very knowledgable about stuff too.

ST. Circumstance said...

I spent many hours reading that site when I first started reading about this subject on the internet.

my condolences if anything happened to anyone involved with it.

I read the H/S book and took it for fact myself from ages 17 to 38. It was after reading the Family and The Ultimate Evil in my late 30's when I started looking for more information about Charlie
That I came across KTS and Manson Family Today which allowed me to understand more completely that I knew nothing about this subject at all. I spent almost a full year reading and linking every single piece of information on Brett's site... Every Parole hearing, and transcript, photos, maps , interviews. It fascinated me and has held my interest after all of these years.I evolved of course- all the other books, and videos- blogs- visits. Found the other great sites at the time- Cielo Drive- Col- Back Door... all the places to get information and talk with people who have seen and know more than I do... which has grown but still = shinola in the big picture.

But those were the first places which stoked the fire for me

Pioneers lol if you will I consider them...

eternal gratitude and respect

Marliese said...

'eternal gratitude and respect'...very nice, St. C.

I miss Heaven...and the unwavering stability in her encyclopedic TLB knowledge, and her support. I miss her, lots.

Matt said...

GoDaddy is flat-ass down right now. As a result any domain that relies on their DNS servers is also down. Thus, Eviliz must wait it out.

I hear Anonymous is taking credit...

ST. Circumstance said...

Leigh- I love what you wrote...

I take " rests" all the time in the form of tantrums and retirements lol

But I agree with everything you say and appreciate the way you said it.

:)

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Marliese said...

Is that bossy loud mouth fat gramma still around? The one who thought it was cool to make excuses for having an abusive, child stalking, registered sex offender contributing to her group.

dgreek said...

Damn! I guess it was destiny. I'm still sad a little :( Miss Bret too.

agnostic monk said...

I went away when Heaven went away. She was a class act. Same with Cats. Without blogging with Cats on here I was all like whatever. This is not to insult or drunkenly say that other participants are not worthy of discussion - because holy shit many here are... yeah, fight me on my perspective of Kasabian (she's essentially a good girl but whatever) But you know, ERAs end, we get busy with making a living and tending to our loved ones and enjoying life outside of thoughts of death and we make a try to make a little love. A little love wish from me to...

XOXOXOXO Col, Heaven, Cats, Jean Harlow, Marliese, many others...

Grateful that I have had interesting discussions with you. .

jempud said...

Good to see you online again, Monk. You were always one of my favourite posters.

Jem

Marliese said...

A.M! You have been missed!

I am grateful for every one of your posts...you always made me stop and rethink my own.

Thank you for the love wish...

And for you too...xoxoxo

ST. Circumstance said...

I dont know some of these people lol- but if the old school people who know more about this case are going to re-emerge or come back

I, for one, would be happy to shut up and listen and learn from people who know and discuss the case civilly

that should encourage a few lol ;)

louis365 said...

We are in the midst of Helter Skelter...ffs....Wake the fuck up


We are in the midst of Helter Skelter ffs..wake the fuck up








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ST. Circumstance said...

But not if its going to be like that

Jean Harlow said...

oh Monk you are so sweet ... xxx ooo to you too

Marliese said...

The End. Rest in peace, KTS.

Some nice people there.

Heaven, if you're around and still reading, you were always warm and friendly, with encyclopedic knowledge of TLB! Worthy of trust, and not a double standard anywhere.

All these years later, have never heard, read, or met anyone with the tlb knowledge you had, while always being fair, and nice. Simply nice. Thanks for sharing all you knew...

Hope all is well for you and yours.

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deadpaintersgallery said...

KTS banned me for daring to insinuate that maybe Scott Peterson should get a trial before they lynched him.