Thursday, June 21, 2012

The Usual Suspects


DORGAN, Joseph Thomas, LA778 843D, CII 2 945 008 Male Caucasian, DOB 8-24-44, 5-11, 150, brown/blue . Subject has an arrest record for 10851 V.C. (DWOC); 11910. H.& S (Possession of Dangerous Drugs) and a conviction in July, 1968, of 487.3 P.C. (GTA). He is Suzan Struthers's fiance and one of the individuals who discovered Mr. LaBianca's body. Investigation disclosed that Mrs. LaBianca did not approve of Suzan's relationship with Dorgan. A polygraph examination was administered by England, S.I.D., on August 14, 1969, tape No.32233. The examination proved negativ3, even though he admittedly smoked marijuana two hours prior to the examination. The subject's prints were taken for elimination.

STRUTHERS, Suzan, aka Suzan Rae (no criminal record) Female Caucasian, DOB 2-27-48, 5-6, 130, brown/blue. Subject has had many disagreements with the victims over her relationship with Joseph Dorgan. She was a suspect in the fraudulent use of a credit card in January, 1968 (DR 68-429642) , involving Dorgan. Sgt. McRobbie, Van Nuys Forgery, investigated the case, but criminal prosecution was not sought because Mr. LaBianca made restitution. A polygraph examination was administered by Funk, S.I.D., on August 21, 1969, tape No- 32286. The examination proved negative and her prints were taken for elimination.

STRUTHERS, Frank Lynn, LA 960 851S Male Caucasian, DOB 4-19-54, 5-9, 135, brown/brow. Subject was arrested in May of this year for 602 W.I.C., 10851 V.C., (DWOC), where he was a passenger in a stolen car. Subject was at the crime scene approximately two hours before the bodies were discovered. A polygraph examination was administered by Sgt. Howe, S.I.D., on August 14, 1969, tape No.32234. The examination proved negative and his prints were obtained for elimination.

O'BRIEN, Orval Alan, LA 972 485 Male Caucasian, DOB 6-29-55, 5-6, 115, red/blue. Subject is an acquaintance of Frank Struthers, Jr., and in the past has expressed animosity towards the LaBianca's. Interviewed and eliminated August 14, 1969, because of his detention at Sylmar Juvenile Hall during the commission of the crime.

NEGRINI, Gian-Carlo, LA 960 849N Male Caucasian, DOll 12-19-54, 5-6, 110 brown/blue. Subject is an acquaintance of Frank Struthers, Jr., and in the past has expressed animosity towards the LaBianca's. He was interviewed and eliminated August 14, 1969, because of his detention at Sylmar Juvenile Hall during the commission of the crime.

NEGRINI, Vittoria , LA 96.4 628N Male Caucasian, DOD 8-8-53,6-1, 165, brown/blue. Subject is an acquaintance of Frank Struthers, Jr., and in the past has expressed animosity towards the LaDiancas. He was interviewed August 19, 1969, and eliminated through investigation. He was printed for elimination purposes.

POSELLA, Leonard, LA 189 324P, CII 973193 1-1ale Caucasian, DOB 8-26-34,5-11, 185, brown/brown. *Felony Warrant No. A05 6027, bench warrant for 4390 B & P (Forged Prescription) issued,6-2-69, State Narcotic investigators handling. Subject has resided with his mother, Julia Posella, at 3267 Waverly Drive. 1 This residence is directly east of the LaBianca residence. He has had mental problems in the past and claims he blacks out for periods of time and is not responsible for his actions. He has threatened his ex wife with a knife and has stated that he will cut her head off. He has been convicted of 245 p.C., ADW, and has many Drunk arrests. He is currently being sought on the felony warrant for Forgery of a Prescription, and investigators have been unable to locate him. No make on fingerprints; but need palm prints for elimination.

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The above is taken from the LaBianca murder investigation report. Reading it again for shits and giggles I was struck by ...well everyone's been arrested. Credit Card fraud for Suzan, Car Theft for Frank, Drug Possession for Dorgan, friends in Juvie. Embezzlement for pops. It does beg the question- is that a lot of criminality or is it just me? I mean I don't know that many criminals and I know a ton of people.

It feels like there is something here, but then again it is hard to form a theory.

12 comments:

blipcrotch said...

According to the Schreck book, Negrini and O'Brien were from the Sylmar area, where the Labianca wallet was found in the gas station.

The notion being that the placing of the wallet was an attempt to frame them or point suspicion towards them. They supposedly had beefs with the Labiancas.

The interesting point being that the killer(s) knew the doings of the Labiancas enough to know that fact.

rfoster1 said...

Interesting. That makes me wonder about the possibility that the LaBianca killings were a murder by hire, which could make sense given the motive (my belief) for the Tate killings were drugs/money.

beauders said...

has anyone notice dorgan is not listed as a motorcycle gang member let alone a straight satan.

starship said...

Yes, Dorgan being a Straight Satan would make things very interesting indeed.

But although he is rumored to have been one, it is not proven he ever was.

And where did the rumor come from? The only source I can find is from CM himself in one of his interviews.

Panamint Patty said...

Maybe he was not a full initiate. Patty is told that her father in law used to "run with the Angels" but he was only loosely on the fringes due to his role as a bouncer at a popular biker hangout.

These people all knew each other, they all had criminal records, they all had similar lifestyles. Whether Dorgan actually owned a Harley is kind of a moot point. It was most certainly about drugs and money.

Matt said...

So August 9 & 10 are drug hits? If that's the case the Manson Family gets two contracts to fulfill back to back?

Let's say that is true. Then where was the payoff. Why were theyso broke for the move to the desert?

Brian Davis said...

@Matt, Perhaps there was no payoff because Manson owed them ? Much like Tex owed Manson one ? Idk, just throwing it out there.

I don't think that the two nights have the same motive, imo.

A.C. Fisher Aldag said...

Were the contracts completed successfully, or botched?

If the latter, no payoff.

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ST. Circumstance said...

Intriguing

rfoster1 said...

Brian Davis said, "I don't think that the two nights have the same motive, imo."

You're right, in my opinion, the Tate murders would not have been for hire.

blipcrotch said...

What if the Straight Satans accepted the death of the Labiancas as payment of some sort of debt owed by Manson or someone associated with him?