Sunday, December 03, 2006

An Open Letter Sent Today









December 3, 2006

smgillon@ou.edu

Dear Mr. Gillon,

As a professor, author and television host, you have an obligation to history itself to be accurate and truthful. I don’t know whether you know it or not, but in the latest episode of OUR GENERATION, you are guilty not only of propagating outlandish myths, you are guilty of omissions that are reprehensible.

For the first part, you spent half of your silly show repeating the falsehoods about Charles Manson being the devil in the Garden of Eden. Far from it- he was a small, pathetic, loser with no super powers and precious little going for him. You never once mentioned that the actual killings were committed by Charles Tex Watson. You don’t even mention his name in the entire show. Second, you allow the now aged and always silly Vincent Bugliosi to repeat his usual banter, most of which is fabricated. This man, who ran into trouble himself for beating his mistress, repeats the lies that Susan Atkins told about wanting to kill Sinatra and Taylor. This is known bullshit, but you allow it on your show.

Secondly, and far worse (since the standard Manson bullshit is to be expected on your extremely ordinary show) you hold Catherine Share up as some sort of paragon of virtue on the show, some fat, old housewife who escaped Charlie who beat her. Except nothing she says is true. You can go and watch MANSON the documentary and see her talking about how Manson was Jesus to her. She was arrested during the trials while robbing a gun shop- she fired repeatedly at Hawthorne Police officers and served jail time for it. She later became a gun moll for a hardened convict. She later was on the run for organizing a nationwide credit card scam. It is extremely likely that she LED the cleanup after the murder of ranch hand Shorty Shea. Just a few years ago she was in witness protection. This is a CAREER Criminal, as the police would call her. Let me repeat- she has SHOT at cops and been an accessory to murder, according to people who were there. And yet you let her speak her slander (did you know that Clem has been free for 22 years and probably never did anything to her like she says now he did? Did your lawyers even check your show or did they have trouble staying awake?) and lies and expect the audience to know the facts without you presenting them?

You should be ashamed of your episode. Any of your students could have done a better job.

Sincerely,

ColScott

The Official Tate-LaBianca Murders Blog

www.tatelabianca.blogspot.com


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Anonymous said...

She was a hot chick.

Anonymous said...

Well Said.

The fabrications and the absolute hypocrisy of this case is monumental.

You've got Barbara Hoyt who claims she listed to Shorty Shea being murdered and did NOTHING but crawl under a bunk and go to sleep.

Then you have Catherine Share who may have had a hand in killing Shorty Shea and possibly burying the body going back to Spahn Ranch for a picture shoot.

Then you have Charles Manson the so-called Mass Murderer, Serial Killer who never stabbed anyone, but only confessed to having sliced Gary Hinman's ear overshadowing Charles Denton Watson, the repressed sexual murderer who knowingly killed at least 7 people in cold blood and who most likely is responsible for the death of Marina Habe as well.

The American Media itself has become a shameless and unnecessary outlet because it no longer cares about truthful reporting.

The media is all about sensationalism. They don't care about the truth. The news reporters and the pimps they work for only care about dressing up a story so they can feed it to the brainless idiots who believe everything that's presented to them.

This case has been a cash cow for so many people that it's in their own best intereset to villify Charles Manson and Company as the worst criminals that ever appeared on the American landscape.

It's a shameless hustle that's become so very obvious to many and for Vince Bugliosi to open that mouth of his and spit out the same old jive that he's been dealing out for the last 36 years is beyond me. He's the master pimp who knows the truth but won't ever go public with it because it would be a bold faced admission that Helter Skelter was a fabrication.

It's amazing to me how Charles Denton Watson, who's role in this case was NEVER in doubt, literally gets ignored and the focus always goes back to Manson.

Watson and Krenwinkel butchered those people ....... that's a fact that nobody can deny. Whether Manson actually gave the order or not, in my eyes, does not and should not overshadow what the other two did.

Go back and look at the autopsy reports ..... If you play the Bugliosi card of Manson the mass murderer, just remember that it was Watson and Krenwinkel that hunted those people down and murdered them.

Facts are Facts.

Anonymous said...

she still is hot.

and coherent. good combination if you were to ask me.

Anonymous said...

SLAVEAGE TO A IDIOT...WITH NO BRAINS SAID,

"The media is all about sensationalism."

No...the media is what you get from it.

If you want sensationalism...there ya go.

If you want coherent, logical thinking..one can find it.

Try not to be so hysterical, grasping at favorite icons like michael savage...they are selling you out like a crack whore by a pimp.

try to develop some thinking on your own...

maybe an original thought.

not something spoon fed you by the colonel or savage.

Anonymous said...

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

John Adams, 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770
US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)


Meathead said: "No, The media is what you get from it"


Not Quite .... "Garbage In, Garbage Out" ..... That's how the media operates.

The problem with the media is that there's nobody behind them to verify that they're not abusing their profession. They're not interested in the truth and they brainwash the average fool into believing that what they're being told is factual when, in most cases, it's not.

They all preach the lie "4 legs good", "2 legs bad".

The american media, which in some cases is owned by foreign interests and investors, isn't concerned with what's ethical. They're working overtime to dumb down the sheep so they'll be easier to control.

After all, a man that can think independently is a danger to the New World Order. We can't have that now can we.

Keep spitting out the lie that Charles Manson is a mass murderer and that he's the greatest danger to society that there ever was. After all, it fits the agenda, doesn't it? How many people got rich at Manson's expense and did any of that money make its way to the victims or the charities they established?

The American Media has become a rogue entity that serves its own self interests and the foreign nationals that own them. The American citizen is a fool and moron in their eyes. A sheep that's easily manipulated.

Be honest with yourself Meathead, you fear Michael Savage because you know he's the only one who's warning us about what's coming.

It's just like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" .... only a handful of people can see what's happening and the others have already had their minds and their wills stolen from them.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Savage Disciple said...
Then you have Charles Manson the so-called Mass Murderer, Serial Killer who never stabbed anyone, but only confessed to having sliced Gary Hinman's ear


I guess his shooting Bernard Crowe and assuming he had killed him makes him a model citizen.

Salem said...

BRAVO COL.

Happy Holidays.

Salem said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...
Savage Disciple said...
Then you have Charles Manson the so-called Mass Murderer, Serial Killer who never stabbed anyone, but only confessed to having sliced Gary Hinman's ear


I guess his shooting Bernard Crowe and assuming he had killed him makes him a model citizen.

6:07 PM, December 03, 2006

CM did not go there with intent to kill anyone.

Salem said...

Far from it- he was a small, pathetic, loser with no super powers and precious little going for him. You never once mentioned that the actual killings were committed by Charles Tex Watson. You don’t even mention his name in the entire show. Second, you allow the now aged and always silly Vincent Bugliosi to repeat his usual banter, most of which is fabricated. says Col Scot

SO TRUE! CM wasnt a killer at all. How the HELL did Tex slip through whole entire period and then get married and have kids..Set up his False Cross, and yet today its still
* Charlie made me do it*
PUKE!
what bullshit.
THEY ALL HAD FREE WILL!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said:

>I guess his shooting Bernard Crowe and assuming he had killed him makes him a model citizen.<

No, but i believe that the argument could be made that Crowe's shooting was in self defense.

I can't recall if TJ's story was along those lines but Mansin didn't go there to kill anyone. It was to address the drug burn of Bernard Crowe by Tex Watson.

Again ..... Charles Denton Watson gets involved in something that Manson ultimately gets fingered with.

Salem said...

A drug burn that TEX set up himself even!
How stooooooopid is that!
OMG and they called Steve scrambled
head! Tex was worst( puke) as far as I am concerned.

Anonymous said...

Believe me, i'd love to do an old fashioned western showdown with Tex Watson myself, especially for how he treated Leslie.

You can sell it to HBO or any other pay per view medium and donate a percentage of the money to the Doris Tate foundation.

It would be just like one of those old clint eastwood movies .. two guys with a gun and holster and music chime to wind down the count.


If i win ... Leslie goes free.

If i lose .. Then so be it. You can
give Tex back his conjucial visit privilages.


Believe me, i'd love close the book on the founder of ALMS. That's one match i'd sign for.

Salem said...

hehehe
now that's the kinda shoot out I'd love to see, wonder if Tex still has the Rage in him?
He may just hold up his Bible and say a prayer for ya tho Savage. The lying cheating bastard he is! His words of GOD mean nothing to me, he's a fake. He can take his ALMS and stick it up his ass!

Anonymous said...

I'm sure there's plenty of rage left in him. He'll see that there's plenty of rage in me too.

I like the idea.

No matter how it turns out, somebody wins.

Salem said...

;)

One thing for sure, he could have let Linda and Leslie out of it all , but I think he used FORCE to get them to do things they did.

Salem said...

Go back and look at the autopsy reports ..... If you play the Bugliosi card of Manson the mass murderer, just remember that it was Watson and Krenwinkel that hunted those people down and murdered them.

Facts are Facts.

also
abby and Voy had the most wounds I think.
Tex was pissed, he got burned again. Abby and Voy had made him very angry earlier that day.
and HE was the Devil and there to do the Devils'Work.

deadwoodhbo said...

Oh for f^&*sake who cares.Hoyt and share ever get the feeling CM dont give a shit .

Anonymous said...

Believe me, if Tex and I were in the same room, the only prayers he better say is for himself.

Minister or not, i'll let God sort that one out.

Happy go lucky Tex won't need a bible in my presence.

Just give him the gun and the holster. That's all he'll need.

All i need is one bullet with the words "Griffith Park" enscribed on it.

deadwoodhbo said...

Savage Disciple said...
Believe me, if Tex and I were in the same room, the only prayers he better say is for himself.

Minister or not, i'll let God sort that one out.

Happy go lucky Tex won't need a bible in my presence.

Just give him the gun and the holster. That's all he'll need.

All i need is one bullet with the words "Griffith Park" enscribed on it.

8:36 PM, December 03, 2006

DAM WELL SAID

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
CM did not go there with intent to kill anyone.

So that makes shooting someone ok? Just so long as you don't intend on killing them? Is that a hick law?

Deb B said...

Looked at the pics on the Turner site - she's 64 years old - she looks good!

Salem said...

So that makes shooting someone ok? Just so long as you don't intend on killing them? Is that a hick law?

3:34 AM, December 04, 2006

NO YOU BACKWOODS TURD, ITS THE FREEKING LAW. IF YA HAD A DAMN BRAIN YOU'D FIGURE THAT MUCH OUT.
GO FETCH FIDO*

1969cielodrive said...

If I understand the story correctly, the only person that was armed was Charlie. Crowe didn't have any weapons on him. I don't know if it can be called self defense or not since Charlie went freely to Crowes apartment, with a gun no less. It would have been different had Crowe showed up at the ranch threatening, but that's not what happened.
If it wasn't Charlie's intent to shoot anyone, maybe he shouldn't have brought a gun with him.

Ok, maybe Charlie didn't ever kill anyone and maybe he is getting a bum rap. But go read about Pamela Smart. She didn't kill anyone either and she got life without the possibility of parole. She wasn't there when her husband was killed. But Charlie gets something Pamela will never get, regular parole hearings.

I hear those all the time talk about how Charlie got locked up for something he didn't do. I can appreciate that. But Charlie himself doesn't seem to mind and also doesn't seem to take his parole hearings very seriously. He seems happy where he is. So why can't people just accept that and move on?

Just my two cents.

Salem, I hate to disagree with you, but there is no law saying it's ok to shoot someone as long as you don't have the intent on killing them. Maybe that's not how you meant it to read, but that's how you're coming across. Go back and read your words cause the name calling doesn't really help prove any point you were trying to make. Helter Skelter was only repeating your words back to you in the manner in which you presented them.

Again, just my two cents.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
NO YOU BACKWOODS TURD, ITS THE FREEKING LAW. IF YA HAD A DAMN BRAIN YOU'D FIGURE THAT MUCH OUT.
GO FETCH FIDO*


So according to you there is a law that says it's ok to shoot people just so long as you don't intend to kill them?
I asked you if that was a hick law and you say "ITS THE FREEKING LAW". So now I ask you to please point out where I can find that law. I'm sure there are loads of people in this country who'd like to shoot someone. Ya know, just as long as they don't intend to kill them.
I think it's not I who is missing a brain my dear. I think you'd greatly benefit from learning to read instead of waiting to speak there Fido.

Salem said...

I hear those all the time talk about how Charlie got locked up for something he didn't do. I can appreciate that. But Charlie himself doesn't seem to mind and also doesn't seem to take his parole hearings very seriously. He seems happy where he is. So why can't people just accept that and move on?

well duh*
maybe its becase he KNOWS he will
never get out!
and when he tries to explain himself they all make him out to be this lunatic. So why should he even try?
Happy Holidays

1969cielodrive said...

Salem said...
I hear those all the time talk about how Charlie got locked up for something he didn't do. I can appreciate that. But Charlie himself doesn't seem to mind and also doesn't seem to take his parole hearings very seriously. He seems happy where he is. So why can't people just accept that and move on?

well duh*
maybe its becase he KNOWS he will
never get out!
and when he tries to explain himself they all make him out to be this lunatic. So why should he even try?
Happy Holidays

I think you missed my point, but that's ok.

VeraDreiser said...

Too bad the "Colonel" has to resort to his usual bullying and name-calling in his "open letter" to Professor Gillon.

Here’s an “open letter” to you, “Col.”

If you were even slightly mature or professional, you could have actually raised some of your valid points in the letter, mailed it with an actual signature (speaking of hypocrisy and deception) and probably have rec'd a well thought out response (all you have to do is send it on that Sony letterhead, DM, you'd get a reply, you know it). But instead of forcing him into a corner with an adult argument and extracting, possibly, some concessions, you resort to your tedious bellicose way (which, ironically, is no less autocratic and inflexible than those people you love to despise, ie. Bugliosi and Turner).

Grow up "Col," you're defeating, as always, your "purpose": to find out the deeper truth about the murders. Too bad, another missed opportunity (and don't say he wouldn't reply, trust me, anyone who’s been to college knows history profs, even if they’re also cheesy television hosts, authors, whatever, they can't – and won’t -- resist a good challenge).

Love,

Dr. Dreiser

Pristash said...

Oh, man...I've seen some lame websites in my time, but check out Professor Gillon's OU profile and such....not much there....

If he truly is an academic with any sense of integrity, then he really does have alot to answer for...the History channel should be ashamed for puttin on such tripe, although I bet the powers that be don't know even a quarter of what we here at the blog know and can agree on when it comes to TLB. Who owns the Hitory Channel anyway?

Salem said...

Manson wanted to help his pal's girlfriend and asked T.J.to help, Walleman brought a gun with him, which Manson ended up putting in the back of his pants as the two approached Crowe's apartment.

At Crowe's place, they found the angry dope dealer and two white friends of his. Watson's girlfriend was also there, crying and terrified.

Manson told Crowe he would make good on the money and asked the dude to let the woman go . Crowe said she would stay until he got the cash or the drugs. Manson got on his knees and begged Crowe to let the girl go and to give him time to get the money. When Crowe said no at Manson's plea, Manson pulled the gun and offered it to Crowe butt first. Crowe was pissed. He rushed Manson, attempting to strangle him. With Crowe on top of CM, Manson twice pulled the trigger only to hear the gun click. He pulled it a third time and the gun fired. Crowe's heavy body fell to the floor.
self defense.
just sayin*

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Interesting version of events.

According to Charlie himself

"Okay, T.J., It's up to you and me. Are you going with me? "Sure Charlie, I'm with you. But wait a minute , we might needs some persuasion."
With that he disappeared and returned with an old Buntline .22 revolver. Seeing the gun and realizing I MIGHT HAVE TO USE IT, should have opened my eyes about how drastically things had changed in our group. But since we had gone into all-out thievery, guns were as common with the bikers and ex-cons who hung out with us as the knife I always carried.
We took Johhny Swartz's old Ford and headed toward Hollywood, the gun lying on the seat between us. When we got to the apartment, T.J. picked up the gun and stuck it in his belt. On the way up the stairs, I stopped, turned around and asked T.J. when he was going to do if he had to use the gun. He gave me a blank stare. "Hell man" I said, "if it takes you that long to decide, you aren't going to be very useful, give me the gun."
I stuck it in my belt behind my back. While on the way over, I had been trying to imagine what we might be getting into and how I was going to handle it. I felt Crowe and I could come to some agreement without a fight if I'd promise to be responsible for the money. And I hopes he'd give us a few days to come up with it. So when I knocked on the door, I was still into bargaining and not fighting.
After the first knock, the door opened a few inches and a big white guy peeked out at me saying "you Charlie?" I nodded and he opened the door. Besides the guy who opened the door, there was another white guy in the room, but no black. I was told Crowe had left for a few minutes but would be right back. The girl, bound and gagged, was lying on the bed. The guys didn't seem too hostile and there wasn't any tension. I made light of the situation and started clearing off a very cluttered table. The two guys remained as they were after letting me in. T.J. had found himself a spot against the wall by the front door and remained standing. Seeing the guys weren't uptight, I went over and started untying the girl. One of the guys spoke up. "Crowe said to keep the girl tied". "Come on man" I replied, "where's your manhood? This girl can't out muscle both of you. Besides, we need some coffee and she can make it for us." I finished untying her and told her to go to the bathroom and wash her tearstained face and then make us some coffee while we waited until Crowe arrived, as he soon did.
Crowe, know as Lotsapoppa, weighed close to three hundred pounds. He sized me up, gave T.J. a look and shouted "What's the broad doing up walking around? I told you guys to keep her tied! What's the matter with you fuckers? And you, you smart little bastard, where's my money and that other bastard?" "Look man," I told him, "Things aren't any different then when I talked to you an hour ago. Tex ain't nowhere around. If he's still got your money, I can't find him. And until tomorrow or the next day, I can't come up with that much bread. But let the girl go. I'll stand good for the money." Crowe didn't say anything until after he had walked over to the padded and sat down like some king on a throne. Then, in a louder than natural voice, "I gots'ta answer to some more people" he was tied up with some more black dope dealers, "so I'm gonna give you four hours to raise the bread. The broad stays, and if I don't fuck her to death in the meantime, you can have her when I gets my money."
I begged and promised I'd deliver the money but needed more time, and asked him to let the girl loose. The more I begged, the more vicious and threatening he became. We weren't getting closer to any terms and the girl started crying and pleading with me to do something and get her out of there. Crowe seemed to delight in our dilemma and became even more arrogant, finally saying "Get out of here, punk! Now you got two hours. Go get my money!" I dropped to my knees in front of his chair. "Look, man, I'm on my knees to you, please don't hurt that girl. I promise to get your money. Just let the girl go. He laughed at me and said maybe he'd just rather kill the girl and watch her die instead of waiting for the money. Still kneeling, I took the gun from behind my back and held it butt first out to Crowe and told him, "Here man, if you have to take a life, take mine." He looked at the gun for an instant before reaching for it. When he reached, I twirled it around so the handle rested in the palm of my hands and sprang to my feet. I stepped back and said, "All right, you motherfucker, I've begged, kissed your ass and promised, now I'm taking the girl out of here, and you can say goodbye to her, me and your dollars."
Crowe stood up and showed a lot of heart, saying, "You little white trash bastard, you ain't got the balls to shoot anyone. I'm going to take that gun from you and shove it up your ass. Then I'm going out to that commune of yours with all my partners and screw all those white trash bitches. And if I have to, I'm going to pin your eyes open with toothpicks and make you watch while your white whores suck my black dick." He was taking steps forward as I backtracked. After a couple of steps, I PULLED THE TRIGGER. Click, nothing happened. Crowe laughed and put his meaty hands around my throat. By now my back was up against the wall. He started squeezing and lifting me from the floor. I PULLED THE TRIGGER AGAIN and got just another click. "Oh shit" then once more I yanked ON THE TRIGGER. Buried as it was in his stomach, the gun didn't make a loud report, but it was enough to change the whole atmosphere of the room.
Crowe raised up his toes, his fingers tightened on my neck for the slightest instant, then relaxed as he slid down my body to the floor. The guy closest to me lunged toward me, but T.J. finally came to life and grabbed the guy around the neck and threw him back against the wall. He made no more efforts at being a hero and neither did the other guy. The girl let out a weak scream and started crying again. I hadn't moved. Crowe's body, lying at my feet, had me pinned to the wall.
I looked down AT THE BODY and thought there wasn't much blood showing. I KNEW HE WAS DEAD. I pointed the gun around the room and told the other guys I hadn't come there to hurt anyone but had been forced into it. "Now, if either of you have an argument with me, let's hear it." Their faces were drained of color and their lips seemed too dry to speak. They just stood there staring at the body on the floor. As I stepped over Crowe, I was aware that I had just KILLED A MAN, BUT HAD NO FEELING OF REMORSE. I wasn't sick or, at that moment, concerned about what the consequences of the shooting might be. Actually, all the pressure and tension left me, a feeling of strength surged through me. I felt good! Looking at Crowe's friends, I could see fear in their faces, as if each expected to be the next victim. I delighted in their fear.

Self defense? When Charlie went there with a gun? Had he not gone at all and let Tex handled it, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
You don't go to someone's house, with a gun, shoot them and call it self defense. Would you want someone coming to your house with a loaded gun and shooting you or your kid and claiming it was self defense?
Just sayin.

Salem said...

Would you want someone coming to your house with a loaded gun and shooting you or your kid and claiming it was self defense?
Just sayin.

the gun was given TO Crowe, a scufffle occured and CM was on the defense, what most people would say self defense* would I have shot if I had been in that situatio? HELL YES.
Tex brought this all down anyway , and I think that was the original gist of the topic.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

I agree with you on that, this was Tex's problem.

The gun was given to Gary too.

My point was, there is no law that says you can shoot someone as long as you don't intend to kill them.
As you implied.

Anonymous said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

"Salem said...

NO YOU BACKWOODS TURD, ITS THE FREEKING LAW. IF YA HAD A DAMN BRAIN YOU'D FIGURE THAT MUCH OUT.
GO FETCH FIDO*


So according to you there is a law that says it's ok to shoot people just so long as you don't intend to kill them?
I asked you if that was a hick law and you say "ITS THE FREEKING LAW". So now I ask you to please point out where I can find that law. I'm sure there are loads of people in this country who'd like to shoot someone. Ya know, just as long as they don't intend to kill them.
I think it's not I who is missing a brain my dear. I think you'd greatly benefit from learning to read instead of waiting to speak there Fido."

I don't think you are gonna get a reply. She was quoting dem der hick's law.

Them southern hicks gots a way with language just like the law.... like when they's "fixin to go downtown". Or they's enjoyin' sum "chicken fried steak"

THAR AIN'T NO DAYEM CHICKEN IN IT!!!!!

wypjgu said...

Helter_Skelter_aug_1969, it's pointless to argue with a moron. Salem isn't the brightest crayon in the box. I think she's a few cards short of a full deck. She pretends that she's one of Manson's girls, so what's that tell you?
She's like a bedpan, full of shit and best when dumped.

Anonymous said...

" Savage Disciple said...

Believe me, i'd love to do an old fashioned western showdown with Tex Watson myself, especially for how he treated Leslie."

I would pay 100 bucks to see that. You stupid geek boy, he'd tear your ass up!!!

I would even give you odds...a buntline revolver with one shot and chucky would have a baseball bat.

Dayem...let's set up an octagon!

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

meatwad said...
I don't think you are gonna get a reply. She was quoting dem der hick's law.

*LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!*

Salem said...

wypjgu said...
Helter_Skelter_aug_1969, it's pointless to argue with a moron. Salem isn't the brightest crayon in the box. I think she's a few cards short of a full deck. She pretends that she's one of Manson's girls, so what's that tell you?
She's like a bedpan, full of shit and best when dumped.

1:51 PM, December 04, 2006

YOU ARE A LIAR! I HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID I WAS ONE OF MANSON'S GIRLS.
YOURE THE ONE FULL OF DUNG.

wypjgu said...

Salem said...
YOU ARE A LIAR! I HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID I WAS ONE OF MANSON'S GIRLS.
YOURE THE ONE FULL OF DUNG.

And you are a waste of skin. Too bad you don't send as much time with your child as you do prentending to be Manson's right hand.

Anonymous said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said:
>>>Crowe stood up and showed a lot of heart, saying, "You little white trash bastard, you ain't got the balls to shoot anyone. I'm going to take that gun from you and shove it up your ass. Then I'm going out to that commune of yours with all my partners and screw all those white trash bitches. And if I have to, I'm going to pin your eyes open with toothpicks and make you watch while your white whores suck my black dick." <<<

Based on what you just read, it sounds to me like Manson was more than justified in shooting Bernard Crowe.

It's a real shitty deal, because Tex Watson creates the problem, and note that he's more than willing to toss his girlfriend's life in the trash by leaving her there, and then Manson ends up having to go there to answer for it.

If i was standing there and a gun was present and Bernard Crowe made those statements to me, i would have shot him myself right then and there. Threats were made and it almost seems like Manson was within his rights to defend himself.

As for Tex Watson ..... tell him to put away his bible and then give the SOB a gun and holster and i'll take care of the rest.

All i want is a revolver with one bullet that has the words Griffith Park engraved on it.

We'll see who's faith is stronger, his or mine.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage, you're in love with Charlie so of course you'd say it was justified. According to your words, he can do no wrong anyway.
As for Tex, you talk real big and tough, safely tucked away behind your keyboard.

Anonymous said...

Meatwad said:

>>I would pay 100 bucks to see that. You stupid geek boy, he'd tear your ass up!!!<<

Give the money to the Doris Tate Foundation.

I meant what i said.

If i win .... Leslie goes Free.
If i lose ... So be it.

I'd take Watson to school. He'll never know what hit him.

Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton once did something similar. I'll do the same with Watson.

His faith against mine ....

Anonymous said...

ss said:
>>Savage, you're in love with Charlie so of course you'd say it was justified<<

Not at all.

I'm just saying that Bernard Crowe made what sounding like threatening jestures and Manson probably felt as if he had to defend himself. Crowe already had Tex's girlfriend there and she probably feared for her life so the atmosphere in there must have felt threatening and hostile.

Self Defense if you ask me.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
If i win .... Leslie goes Free.


Yeaaaaah. I'm sure they'll let her go with no problem.
What a crock. This is the dumbest crap I've read on here in a long time. The insanity is never ending.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
ss said:
>>Savage, you're in love with Charlie so of course you'd say it was justified<<

Not at all.

I'm just saying that Bernard Crowe made what sounding like threatening jestures and Manson probably felt as if he had to defend himself. Crowe already had Tex's girlfriend there and she probably feared for her life so the atmosphere in there must have felt threatening and hostile.

Self Defense if you ask me.


So if someone was to come into your house with a loaded firearm and you got cocky with him, he'd be absolutely justified in blowing you away. It's purely self defense when some one comes into YOUR home and shoots YOU?

Too bad no one could tell that to Jay Sebring. Tex was completely justified in walking into some one elses's house, and shooting him.

I only hope that you never serve on a jury.

Anonymous said...

ss said:
>>As for Tex, you talk real big and tough, safely tucked away behind your keyboard. <<

What i said is out here in the open for ALL to see. I don't make idle threats. Sometimes you have to take a stand.

Watson, in particular, has alot to answer for. His ministry is an abomination to the people he murdered. A unremorseful murderer hides behind the cross. That in itself is a red flag in my book.

For what Watson did to Leslie, you're damn right I want a piece of him.

Win, lose or draw, he wouldn't be the same man after i'm done with him.

Anonymous said...

ss said:
>>Too bad no one could tell that to Jay Sebring.<<

Jay Sebring wasn't holding anyone captive and he didn't call the ranch threatening anyone on the phone.

It's not the same thing.

wypjgu said...

What if Manson or Tex had just called the cops and reported that Crowe had kidnapped a girl and was holding her hostage. They wouldn't even have to identified themselves. Just tip the cops off.

The point of all of this was, I believe, that ALL Manson did was slice off Gary's ear.
Not quite. Whether or not Manson was justified in shooting Crowe seems to be debatable among his fan club. If you're a fan of Manson's, then it was a justified shooting. But if it was anyone else, it would have been, well let's see.

Attempted murder
Criminal threatening with a firearm
Possession of a stolen firearm

What else?

What about the fact that Manson was on parole? I think there could have been some charges there as well.

But since it was Manson, it's all ok and perfectly acceptable.

Anonymous said...

Slave to Savage said,

I'd take Watson to school. He'll never know what hit him."

Dude, the guy had a record in Texas for some athletic thing.

He climbed a f'n 30 foot telephone pole with a 30 pound boltcutter and cut wires with it.

He slaughtered several people by shooting them and knockiing the f outa their heads as well as stabbing them countless times.

He probably came back to the ranch after that and did some push ups.

LOL...my money's on chucky.

Ok...I'll give you a fully loaded AK47 inside the octagon.

Chucky gets a wet noodle, geek.

Fair enough?

Susan_Sucks said...

Since the only stories we have regarding the incident are from drug dealers, pimps and murderers, what's the point in arguing about it?

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

I'd like to know what proof Savage can offer that Charlie didn't kill Shorty. Besides his opinions and assumptions.

Anonymous said...

ss said:
>>What a crock. This is the dumbest crap I've read on here in a long time. The insanity is never ending.<<

You're entitled to say what you want. It doesn't matter to me.

I presented what i thought seemed like a reasonable solution to a longstanding problem.

I look at this way, If i win, i see it as freedom for Leslie and the end of a devil masquerading as a man of the cloth. Vindication for many.

If i lose, then i meet my maker knowing that i stayed true to my own faith and i leave this world with some dignity.

It's like playing Russian Roulette ... you have to have the courage to stare death in the face.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
What a crock. This is the dumbest crap I've read on here in a long time. The insanity is never ending.

You're entitled to say what you want. It doesn't matter to me.



It's your time, you're free to spend it anyway you please lol

Tex is a big woose now. So you'd probably win by default lol.

Anonymous said...

Slave to Savage said,

"I presented what i thought seemed like a reasonable solution to a longstanding problem."

I'd like to know what is reasonable about it at all?

Without ANY reason is closer to it.

Anonymous said...

Susan Sucks commented,

"Tex is a big woose now. So you'd probably win by default lol."

And how do you know this?

Susan_Sucks said...

meatwad said...
Susan Sucks commented,

"Tex is a big woose now. So you'd probably win by default lol."

And how do you know this?

I don't, I was just trying to help Savage feel big and mean lol

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

I'm rather curious. Savage, what do you feel Tex *did* to Leslie?
I was always under the impression that Leslie was claiming responsibility for her own actions. Is she just another who needs to blame it on someone else?

Salem said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...
I'd like to know what proof Savage can offer that Charlie didn't kill Shorty. Besides his opinions and assumptions.

2:50 PM, December 04, 2006

BECAUSE CM SAYS HE DIDNT KILL HIM.

Salem said...

wypjgu said...
What if Manson or Tex had just called the cops and reported that Crowe had kidnapped a girl and was holding her hostage. They wouldn't even have to identified themselves. Just tip the cops off.

LMAO
what a idiot.
you totally missed the 60's.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
helterskelter_aug_1969 said...
I'd like to know what proof Savage can offer that Charlie didn't kill Shorty. Besides his opinions and assumptions.

2:50 PM, December 04, 2006

BECAUSE CM SAYS HE DIDNT KILL HIM.


Is your name Savage?

wypjgu said...

Salem said...
wypjgu said...
What if Manson or Tex had just called the cops and reported that Crowe had kidnapped a girl and was holding her hostage. They wouldn't even have to identified themselves. Just tip the cops off.

LMAO
what a idiot.
you totally missed the 60's.


Salem, why don't you pretend to be a decent mother and go spend some time with your poor, neglected child. Charlie will still be in jail when you return, so you won't miss anything.

Salem said...

BITE ME YOU LOSER!!!!!!
I SPENT THE WHOLE WEEK END WITH MY CHILD FOR YOUR INFO.

AS FOR SAVAGE, AT LEAST HE SPEAKS HIS MIND AND DOESNT FOLLOW THE BEATEN PATH. HE'S NOT A LEMMINGS LIKE SOME OF YOU.
TEX COERCED LESLIE TO DO WHAT SHE DID AT LENO'S HOUSE. JUST LIKE HE SENT LINDA TO THE DOOR AT TATE'S HOME. THE COWARD ALWAYS CALLED ON SOMEONE ELSE WHEN HE GOT IN DEEP SHIT.
THEN HIS FRAGILE LIL MIND SNAPPED AND HE BECAME * THE DEVIL*

Salem said...

wypjgu
You repeat yourself over and over about my child, geesh makes me wonder if you arent into kids.

Anonymous said...

BITE ME YOU LOSER!!!!!!
I SPENT THE WHOLE WEEK END WITH MY CHILD FOR YOUR INFO. AND NO ONE SHOULD EXPECT ME TO EVER SPEND ANOTHER MINUTE WITH HIM BECAUSE I SPENT THE ENTIRE WEEKEND WITH HIM.

wypjgu said...

Salem said...
wypjgu
You repeat yourself over and over about my child, geesh makes me wonder if you arent into kids.

We know you're not into your kid. I feel bad for any neglected child.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
TEX COERCED LESLIE TO DO WHAT SHE DID AT LENO'S HOUSE.

Your name still isn't Savage. If I had wanted to hear from you, I would have asked for your opinion.
You really can't read can you?

Salem said...

If your brain matter was axle grease, there wouldn't be enough in your head to grease the dynamo on a lightening bug's ass. You must have a very large brain to hold such a vast amount of sheer ignorance. However, I'll consider letting you have the last word if you guarantee it will be your last. How true is Stanislaw J. Lec's famous remark: "Every now and then you meet someone whose ignorance is encyclopedic."

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
If your brain matter was axle grease, there wouldn't be enough in your head to grease the dynamo on a lightening bug's ass. You must have a very large brain to hold such a vast amount of sheer ignorance. However, I'll consider letting you have the last word if you guarantee it will be your last. How true is Stanislaw J. Lec's famous remark: "Every now and then you meet someone whose ignorance is encyclopedic."


You have such a low opinion of yourself. That must be your problem, low self esteem.
Is it a hick thing?

Anonymous said...

Hey, let's all join in and guess when savage came close to death.

I bet the closest you have come to death is when you....?

My guess is he got a paper cut on his d__k.

Salem said...

helterskelter_aug_1969
GO FIND SOME KIDS TO PLAY WITH.!!!

HICK IS SOMETHING I AM NOT. YOU HAVE NO CLUE, BUT YOUR FREINDS FROM VA AND KENTUCKY MAYBE WORTH CALLING HICKS. AMAZING, I BET YOU HAVENT LIVED IN ANY OTHER STATE THAN WHERE YOU WHERE BORN. THANK GOD I CAN SAY I HAVE LIVED IN AT LEAST 15 STATES IN MY LIFE .
YA PAL MEATY HAS THE lingo OF A HICK, dem..dat.. thar.. and all the other stooopid little words he uses.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
helterskelter_aug_1969
GO FIND SOME KIDS TO PLAY WITH.!!!

HICK IS SOMETHING I AM NOT. YOU HAVE NO CLUE, BUT YOUR FREINDS FROM VA AND KENTUCKY MAYBE WORTH CALLING HICKS. AMAZING, I BET YOU HAVENT LIVED IN ANY OTHER STATE THAN WHERE YOU WHERE BORN. THANK GOD I CAN SAY I HAVE LIVED IN AT LEAST 15 STATES IN MY LIFE .
YA PAL MEATY HAS THE lingo OF A HICK, dem..dat.. thar.. and all the other stooopid little words he uses.

Unlike you, all my hick friends can spell. Maybe Santa will bring you a dictionary for Christmas.

Salem said...

maybe he will bring you some kids.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
maybe he will bring you some kids.

Maybe he'll take your kid away. How sad that people like you have children just so you can ignore them. How sad indeed.

Anonymous said...

Meathead,

Once again you show your maturity level.

No disrespect to you, but you don't excatly bring very much to the table do you?

Anonymous said...

"Salem said...

helterskelter_aug_1969
GO FIND SOME KIDS TO PLAY WITH.!!!

HICK IS SOMETHING I AM NOT. YOU HAVE NO CLUE, BUT YOUR FREINDS FROM VA AND KENTUCKY MAYBE WORTH CALLING HICKS. AMAZING, I BET YOU HAVENT LIVED IN ANY OTHER STATE THAN WHERE YOU WHERE BORN. THANK GOD I CAN SAY I HAVE LIVED IN AT LEAST 15 STATES IN MY LIFE .
YA PAL MEATY HAS THE lingo OF A HICK, dem..dat.. thar.. and all the other stooopid little words he uses"

Wow..I'm dumfounded. I didnt realize that salem was such an idiot.

I apologize for making fun of her and will not in the future.

I really feel bad about my actions and promise not to repeat them.

I didnt know.

Sorry.

Meaty

Anonymous said...

IT'S NOT A TUMOR

Anonymous said...

Someone said,

"IT'S NOT A TUMOR"

Praise the allmighty.

Salem said...

Dianne Young said...
IT'S NOT A TUMOR

4:58 PM, December 04, 2006
amazing
ripping off names and putting up personal pics of mine.
LOSER

Anonymous said...

Salem said...
Dianne Young said...
IT'S NOT A TUMOR

4:58 PM, December 04, 2006
amazing
ripping off names and putting up personal pics of mine.
LOSER


LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER
IT'S THE ONLY WORD I CAN SPELL. I'M A HICK. HICK. HICK. HICK.
I LOVE POSTING ONLINE AND GIVING OUT MY PERSONAL PICTURES. I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE ME. I HAVE EVERYTHING I COULD EVER WANT. I'VE LIVED IN 15 DIFFERENT MENTAL STATES AND I'M ONE OF CHARLIES GIRLS

Anonymous said...

http://www.kewcc.co.uk/media/where_eagles_dare.mp3

I wonder if the head honcho of ALMS is familiar with this tune.

Should bring back a few memories.

Anonymous said...

This one's for Lurch :-)

Thought he might be getting a little homesick :-)

http://www.classictvhits.com/shows/addamsfamily/sounds/theaddamsfamily-1.mp3

Anonymous said...

From "www.aboundinglove.org"

-------------------------------
Charles Denton Watson - Current:

Charles lives peacefully in prison. He is a man of character, who shines brightly in a dark place. His identity has shifted from that of a murderer to a child of God. He no longer allows his crime to identify who he is. He sees himself as God sees him -- a new creation in Christ.

He is not only a man of faith, but of feeling. He works as a housing unit janitor, where he relates to men on a caring level. He walks the prison yard while sharing what it means to be a Christian. He fellowships with other Christians and helps them to see God as their heavenly Father who loves them unconditionally. He is a leader within the chapel program and teaches there regularly.

He is a man of sound logic and reasoning. People listen to him because of the life they see him living. He listens to people and encourages them in their weaknesses. He shares a Godly wisdom that has come through past failures and years of spiritual and mental growth.

He boldly rejects the perception of legalistic Christianity, where people are led to believe they can earn their salvation through their own good works. He lives every day reaching out to unbelievers with the grace of God and prays with believers to understand their awesome inheritance because of their union with Christ's death, burial and resurrection.
-------------------------------


-------------------------------
Charles Denton Watson - Future:

Charles sees a dynamic future for himself with God in control. He moves with strong faith and high optimism. As the prophet Daniel says, "...the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits" (11:32). Charles knows his God and trusts Him with all future plans.

Charles sees the Lord continuing to bless others through his writings. He sees himself exhorting not only prisoners, but even a wider audience on the world wide web. He sees the value of a life serving others by being an example of God's ability to change lives.

He sees a life ahead of many growing friendships not only in prison, but outside. Will Charles ever be set free from prison? His freedom in Christ is what he really counts as joy. He does desire a future in free society with his family, but that is not of utmost importance. He has truly learned to be content in whatever state he is in.

He would like to be paroled and move back to Texas, but expects Christ will return for His church way before then. He looks forward to the glory of heaven, but until then, he wakes up daily spending time with God. He wants to encourage you to shift your perception from earth towards heaven, so together we can be more effective in the days to come.
-------------------------------


Charles Denton Watson - No Future

Give him the gun and the holster and let's get his new bunk ready down in the hottest corner of the cellar.

There won't be any harps or angel wings laying around where he's going and there won't be 72 virgins hanging around in some ranch house waiting for Mr Happy go lucky himself.

Tex Watson will be showing his souvenir Griffith Park bullet to all of his new friends with pointed ears who walk around carry pitchforks and other sharp objects who, at one time, called themselves born again christians.

Instead of "Nearer my heart to thee", Tex will be whistling to the tune, "Come on baby light my fire".

It will be just like old times.

Anonymous said...

This was more of what i had in mind for Tex Watson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2l4IKz3m7c


Don .... You make it happen and you can film it. You'll have a once in a lifetime event that people will talk about for a long time to come.

As long as the terms i listed are met ... If i win, Leslie walks.

It's too bad Nellie isn't still with us. I can see him drooling now.

Salem said...

Don .... You make it happen and you can film it. You'll have a once in a lifetime event that people will talk about for a long time to come.

As long as the terms i listed are met ... If i win, Leslie walks.

It's too bad Nellie isn't still with us. I can see him drooling now.

8:11 PM, December 04, 2006

ya, that will be awesome huh?
Beats the Transformers*
Nellie's ghost is here...Can't ya feel him?
Peace

Salem said...

Hey Savage,

talk to QT . He's great. Open minded when it comes to films.
He's a good ole boy from Tenn.
peace out!

Salem said...

Don .... You make it happen and you can film it. You'll have a once in a lifetime event that people will talk about for a long time to come.
says Savage.

He already has an event that will be talked about in this lifetime.
:)

Anonymous said...

Salem said:
>>He already has an event that will be talked about in this lifetime.
:) <<

Interesting. I wonder if it has something to do with Bobby :-)

He's a good artist and a very talented musician.

His painting, "The Magician's Hat", I have on my wall in the dining room. If i remember correctly he used the picture of that painting on his CD, "Dreamways of the Mystic". It's a very impressive looking work.

Don't keep us waiting Don, none of us are getting any younger and the clock is ticking.

Here's a little something that i dug up just for Don Murphy :-)
lol

http://strypervyper.fileburst.com/Music/AllSheWantstoDoIsDance.mp3

Anonymous said...

Salem said:
>>He already has an event that will be talked about in this lifetime.
:) <<

Interesting. I wonder if it has something to do with Bobby :-)

He's a good artist and a very talented musician.

His painting, "The Magician's Hat", I have on my wall in the dining room. If i remember correctly he used the picture of that painting on his CD, "Dreamways of the Mystic". It's a very impressive looking work.

Don't keep us waiting Don, none of us are getting any younger and the clock is ticking.

Here's a little something that i dug up just for Don Murphy :-)
lol

http://strypervyper.fileburst.com/Music/AllSheWantsto
DoIsDance.mp3

Salem said...

NAAAAAAAA

It isnt about Bobby.
;)

I cant get this to work Savage;(
http://strypervyper.fileburst.com/Music/AllSheWantsto
DoIsDance.mp3

but i know the song. :)

Salem said...

He's a good artist and a very talented musician.

His painting, "The Magician's Hat", I have on my wall in the dining room. If i remember correctly he used the picture of that painting on his CD, "Dreamways of the Mystic". It's a very impressive looking work.

umm
never really listened to his music.
saw one painting of a flying penis.
LOL
I always thought CM's paintings and artwork where best:)
guess i am bias huh?
HAPPY HOLIDAY!

Anonymous said...

I added the song to my audio clip.
You can hear it there if you click on the picture and then click on the audio link.

I took down Jimi Hendrix ... but only for a short time :-)

Salem said...

ok:)

please put Jimi back up tho!!!!
;)

dayumm
quiet here today, ya think the 7 are at Foreplay's?

make sure ya got your security settings high. We are prime targets!natural born rebels! but WITH a cause.

chasingbunnies said...

Charles Denton Watson -
Current:


Charles lives peacefully in prison, and that my friends takes some real denial. It's also what we call an oxymoron -- kinda like 'deafening silence' Peace-prison? Honest Lawyer, get it?... but He is a man of character, who shines brightly in a dark place. That's his holy and biblical way of expressing his constitutionally protected right to self release when he's not having conjugal visits with that typical murderer groupie scamming ex-wife of his. (Tex left the doors wide open so that psychpath, Richard Rameriz can fnd a sick, psycho hoze-houndress to marry him.) In Tex's head, His identity has shifted from that of a murderer to a child of God who romps, and skips through the clouds with wings and playing a harp. He no longer allows his crime to identify who he is. Everyone else allows it to, but, whatever. He sees himself as he thinks God sees him -- a new creation in Christ. Poor Jesus Christ. All I have to say to you, JC, is RUN, JESUS RUN!!


Charles Denten Watsone sees himself as a man of wealth and taste who's been around for a long, long year, and stole many a mans soul and faith. When his fingers aren't in the till, stealing money from his floundering, dipshit ministry, He works as a housing unit janitor, where he relates to men on a who cares level. He would like to be a carpenter jist like Jayzuz, but the prison won't allow chainsaws, hammers, nails and those carpentry things in the cells. He walks the prison yard while sharing what it means to be a Christian. On those five minute walks around the yard he has not much to share. Why would he? Nobody goes with Him, anyhow. Everything he thinks is delusional. He "fellowships" with other Christians and helps them to see God as their heavenly Father who loves them unconditionally. He is a leader within the chapel program and teaches there regularly. (Sounds more like an AA meeting only instead of alky's he has a murderers, child molesters, and rapists 12 step meetings.)

He is a man of sound logic and reasoning, and he can prove it, too. Just ask him. That's enough proof for me. People listen to him because of the life they see him living. Then they pay him. He's a carnival barker.

He listens to people and encourages them in their weaknesses. He shares a Godly wisdom that has come through past failures and years of spiritual and mental growth. (Growth? lol) That must be the reason why he has been denied paroled yet all these years. The only growth I can imagine is those stubbly old whiskers at 5:00 PM. As for spiritual growth, lol, WTF does that mean? Maybe it has to do with his precious little piece-of-shit Planet he lives on that he calls "Abounding Loves Ministry Loves"

He boldly goes where no man has gone before along with all the other rejects with His perception of legalistic Christianity, where people are led to believe they can earn their salvation through their own good works. He lives every day reaching out to unbelievers, and skeptics who just don't give a shit about the grace of God. He prays with psychotic believers to understand their awesome inheritance (just like the awesome inheritance he never understood that August 9th and 10th, 1969)

I capitalized the word He when I referred to Tex, because I think he is holy and has done so many good works for society

cb

Salem said...

((((((((((CB)))))))))))

hey:)
nicely said!

:)
I have always wondered if Tex and Bobby and Bruce still get off on getting it up the rear?
ya rekon? LOL

Anonymous said...

I'm actually kind of flattered that someone would waste their time trying to hack into my laptop.

Hey, i've said from day 1 that i make a habit of saying whats on my mind and i don't make any apologies for it.

The truth is the truth and i'm under no obligation to anyone.

My words are my views and nobody elses. I speak for myself.

It's been an amazing journey and whoever once said that you can't go home again got it all wrong.

All that matters to me in my own mind is what i think is important.

There are too many people out there chasing ghosts when the truth is staring them right in the face, but they're too blind to see it.

Ironicially enough at the end of the day the only sane one appears to be Charlie and he seems to be outliving them all.

Wasn't there a movie around called "It's a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad World"?

I'll end this thread on that note.

peace and love to all.

Salem said...

Ironicially enough at the end of the day the only sane one appears to be Charlie and he seems to be outliving them all.

RIGHT ON SAVAGE!!!!!!!!

Susan_Sucks said...

Dedicated to Salem, the broad who never shuts up.



You Talk Too Much
RUN DMC

Shut up!!!

You talk too much...
You talk too much...
You talk too much...
You talk too much...

Hey! You over there, I know about your kind
You're like the Independent Network News on Channel 9
Everywhere that you go, no matter where you at
I said you talk about this, and you talk about that
When the cat took your tongue, I say you took it right back
Your mouth is so big, one bite would kill a Big Mac

You talk too much You never shut up
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up

You talk about people, you don't even know
And you talk about places, you NEVER go
You talk about your girl, from head to toe
I said your mouth's moving fast, and your brain's moving slow

You talk too much You never shut up!!
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up

You're the instigator, the orator of the town
You're the worst when you converse, just a big mouth clown
You talk when you're awake, I heard you talk when you sleep
Has anyone ever told you, that talk is cheap

You talk too much You never shut, up!!
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!

Talking is the one thing, that you can do best
You told the cavity creeps, to watch out for Crest
You never have the story, right and exact
And then you always try to bore me, with your yakkity yak

You talk too much And then you never shut up
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!

Everyday you are out fighting someone in the street
And you're always fighting someone you know ya can't beat
Then you wonder how, you got in this mess
Just think of what you said, then take a guess

You talk too much You never shut up!
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!

You're always spreading rumors, whether bad or good
You're the damn Walter Cronkite of the neighborhood
The Barbara Walters, and the Howard Cosell
You always come around, with a story to tell

You talk too much And then you never shut up
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!

Said it's everybody's business that you love to mind
And talkin to you, is like dropping a dime
You're spreading the word, like it is your job
You should be a stool pigeon, who works for the mob

You talk too much And you never shut up
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up!

A big blabbermouth, that's what you are
If you were a talk show host, you'd be a star
I said your mouth is big, size extra large
And when you open it, it's like my garage

You talk too much And then you never shut up
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never shut up

You always like to gossip, just like a girl
You talk so damn much, it's outta this world
When you're reincarnated, in your second life
You won't be a man, you'll be a nagging wife

You talk too much Then you never shut up
He said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!

SHUT UP!!!
SHUT UP!!!

Twenty-five hours, eight days a week
Thirteen months outta year, is when you speak
I'm tired of listening to the garbage you talk
Why don't you find a short pier, and take a long walk

You talk too much Then you never shut up!
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!
You talk too much You could be, out of breath
You talk too much Man you naggin me to death
You talk too much Tired of hearing you speak
You talk too much Eight days a week
You talk too much Then you never shut up
I said you talk too much Why don't you ever SHUT UP!!!
You talk too much Then you never shut up!
I said you talk too much Homeboy you never SHUT UP!!!

Anonymous said...

Susan_Sucks said...

"Dedicated to Salem, the broad who never shuts up."

Now she gone talk 'bout this.

Susan_Sucks said...

Does she sit here all day hitting refresh, just waiting for someone to make one post so she can comment on that post 15 times?

Now I hear she's telling people that Col Scott is stalking her because he needs information from her about Charlie. That is the funniest shit I've ever heard.

Anonymous said...

Susan_Sucks said...

"Does she sit here all day hitting refresh, just waiting for someone to make one post so she can comment on that post 15 times?"

Tell us 'bout it...she camps here like she is waiting to buy playstation 3.

She claims a direct connect to Sandy but I've never seen any proof.

She doesn't claim to be a manson moll but she sure plays it up like she is.

I didn't realize how vacuous she is until last night...I feel only sorry for her.

Susan_Sucks said...

meatwad said...
I feel only sorry for her.

You feel more for her than I do.
You'll never see proof of her communications with Sandy. No communications exist.

Anonymous said...

Meatwad I heard a rumor that your Poche. Any truth to the rumor?

Salem said...

Now I hear she's telling people that Col Scott is stalking her because he needs information from her about Charlie. That is the funniest shit I've ever heard.
yes u do suck Susan.

I never said the Col was stalking me. If he needs info from CM he can write him.

nice Rap ya had going there Suck, you and snoop dog should get it on.

Savage Disciple said...

That's nice.

The Meathead appears to have trashed all of his posts along with mine.

I have to admit, he's a crafty fuck, whoever he is.

I think i'll bid farewell to the blog for a while ... the inmates are having too much fun.

I saw that the name "POCHE" was being listed .... isn't that the Childmolester that frequents another yahoo forum who's also stalked Heaven in the past?

That explains alot.

Salem said...

Savage Disciple said...
That's nice.

The Meathead appears to have trashed all of his posts along with mine.

I have to admit, he's a crafty fuck, whoever he is.

I think i'll bid farewell to the blog for a while ... the inmates are having too much fun.


well Savage, yanno there is one person here that has 9 handles.( or more)
Think I will bid farewell also for a while.
Tis the season to be Jolly!

Anonymous said...

Savage Disciple said...
I saw that the name "POCHE" was being listed .... isn't that the Childmolester that frequents another yahoo forum who's also stalked Heaven in the past?

That explains alot.


You are correct Savage Disciple, that's the one and it does explain alot.

deadwoodhbo said...

Salem said...
Ironicially enough at the end of the day the only sane one appears to be Charlie.

No contest to that statement

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
I never said the Col was stalking me. If he needs info from CM he can write him.



Salem, could you please enlighten us all as to some conversations you had where you said you were being stalked by Brad Pitt and Col Scott.
Could you also share with us how you said the Col was going to fly out to you with Brad Pitt, pick you up with his personal jet and fly you out to Calif so you can help him write his book.
I'm sure the Col would also like to hear how you've been telling people that he's been stalking you for years and that he stalks you on Yahoo pool. Care to enlighten the Col on any of this?
Can you share with us how it is you got banned from the Foreplay board or should I just go ahead and post the links?
I'm also interested in knowing how Jon Voit contacted you and asked you to help him get his daughter, Angelina Jolie to settle down.
This is all quite fascinating stuff. I wonder if the Col is aware of the things you've been saying about him.
It's amazing what modern technology can do. Why it can log internet conversations, it can take web shots of conversations and did you know that answering machines can record phone conversations?
Pretty cool age we live in huh?
It's just amazing what people will claim they never did but all this modern technology just proves otherwise. Did you know that AOL conversations can be logged and forwarded to the authorities. I think the cops would love knowing that you're threatening a little kid and telling people you're going to sic Hells Angels on them. Fascinating indeed.

Salem said...

I think the cops would love knowing that you're threatening a little kid and telling people you're going to sic Hells Angels on them. Fascinating indeed.

10:48 AM, December 06, 2006

YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR!
ME THREATENING A LITTLE KID! YOUR ONE PERSONTHAT LIES AND LIES ONE AFTER ANOTHER.
I NEVER SAID THE COL WAS COMING TO GET ME IN HIS JET EITHER.(WITH BRAD PITT! LMAO.
GET OFF THE DRUGS OR EITHER BACK ON THEM!
OH I KNOW ABOUT RECORDING MESSAGES. I HAVE ALOT I RECORDED MYSELF.
GO LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN KID. STAY OFF THE SEX LINE AND YOU MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIFE.
SCUMBUCKET.

Susan_Sucks said...

It's not like I expected you to admit it. Screen shots, links and web logs don't lie, unlike you.

Here's a link to you getting kicked off Foreplex

http://fora.templumadlibitum.
com/foraplex
/index.php?topic=157.15

Just copy and paste for viewing pleasure.

Didn't threaten a child? Let's see what all the screen shots say. Looks to me like you told the childs mother you were going to *get* her child.
But like I said, it's like you're going to just fall down and admit it.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
Think I will bid farewell also for a while.

Just like all the other times she's said she was leaving. I knew it wouldn't last long.
I have been on some of the boards where Salem was telling everyone she was being stalked by everyone from Brad Pitt to Col Scott to Big Bird.
I have also seen her use the HA threat agianst people too. None of this surprises me. It's classic Salem.

Anonymous said...

Susan Sucks said:
>>>It's just amazing what people will claim they never did but all this modern technology just proves otherwise. Did you know that AOL conversations can be logged and forwarded to the authorities. I think the cops would love knowing that you're threatening a little kid and telling people you're going to sic Hells Angels on them. Fascinating indeed.<<<

Unless you legally obtained authorization to do this, and that usually involves getting a court order or some other legal authorization, not only can you be charged under the Identity theft laws you can also be charged under the guidelines of Illegal wiretapping.

My guess is that youre some two bit punk who happens to know a few things about the internet but who doesnt know dick about the Law.

Also, the person who's been attempting to hack into my laptop should know that i've given a list of those IP addresses to the IT group of the company I work for.

When the times comes for lawsuits to be filed, you won't be hearing from me. You'll be hearing from the lawyers that my firm deals with and i can assure you that if its at all possible to prosecute you, they will.

Every IP that hits my firewall gets reported to the group, and i will allow them to do whatever it takes to put an end to your little game.

Anonymous said...

It's too bad you decided to pull the WETSIDEWALK AOL name.

The only problem was that it allowed me to find out who you are :-)

Consider this a warning.

Salem said...

nothing there shawdowdancer and wetcitysidewalk and catscradle among the other handles.

jealous* is your game, and all you called me about was to talk about Monk. not to mention how you hated the Col and it was payback time for him. remember now????
geez, how sad.
anyway
Merry Christmas to the Real people here.

Anonymous said...

That's the beauty of Corporate Law, they have deep pockets and unlimited Legal help.

Won't cost me a dime.

Every new IP that hits my firewall, i've been instructed to write down the IP and just hand it over. They'll do the rest.

This should be fun ...

Salem said...

My guess is that youre some two bit punk who happens to know a few things about the internet but who doesnt know dick about the Law.

yep Savage .and 2 live in the same state of Ohio! they get tips from a pal in Ca.
yeeeeehaw. LOL

Happy Holidays!

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
My guess is that youre some two bit punk who happens to know a few things about the internet but who doesnt know dick about the Law.

Savage and Salem must be the same person because I didn't see any of this directed at Savage, but he/she is getting really upset about something that has nothing to do with him/her.
Since I have suggested to the victims that they give these items to the police, I guess we don't have to worry too much about the law. DUH!
As for the rest, I'm just trembling in fear. You scare me big fella.

Anonymous said...

As a matter of fact, i have new one to hand in.

205.188.248.99 on port 1115

Susan_Sucks said...

You probably are the same person because not only do you get upset about things that have nothing to do with you, you always show up here together at the same time. Makes sense now. No wonder Salem gets defensive to anyone who disagrees with you. You're her alter ego.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
As a matter of fact, i have new one to hand in.

205.188.248.99 on port 1115


Goody for you. Mine starts with a 7

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
It's too bad you decided to pull the WETSIDEWALK AOL name.

The only problem was that it allowed me to find out who you are :-)

Consider this a warning.

Again, I'm deeply frightened, but I don't recall saying anything about a westsidewalk AOL. Whatever to hell that is. But I'm still wondering why this has YOU in such a pickle? Hmmmm. You're getting so upset about something that had nothing to do with you. Odd.

Anonymous said...

Susan Sucks:
>>Savage and Salem must be the same person because I didn't see any of this directed at Savage, but he/she is getting really upset about something that has nothing to do with him/her.
Since I have suggested to the victims that they give these items to the police, I guess we don't have to worry too much about the law. DUH!
As for the rest, I'm just trembling in fear. You scare me big fella. <<

You'll be delt with by the firm i work for and they know the proper legal channels.

If you think you can't be prosecuted, don't kid yourself. You're in for a rude awakening if you think this is some kind of game.

Every IP that hits my firewall goes right to my IT group and the Compliance Dept of my company is notified.

All i'm doing is gathering everything that comes my way.

I warned you what would happen and now its out of my hands.

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
yep Savage .and 2 live in the same state of Ohio! they get tips from a pal in Ca.
yeeeeehaw. LOL

Happy Holidays!


How do I like living in Ohio? I hope I've enjoyed it because I've never been there. Try again. There are 49 other states, you're bound to guess right eventually.
I'll give you a hint though. It's warm, sunny and beautiful here.

Anonymous said...

If's it not you that's been hacking into my PC SusanS, then you have nothing to worry about.

The IT's guys and my compliance dept people will sort it all out.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
Susan Sucks:
>>Savage and Salem must be the same person because I didn't see any of this directed at Savage, but he/she is getting really upset about something that has nothing to do with him/her.
Since I have suggested to the victims that they give these items to the police, I guess we don't have to worry too much about the law. DUH!
As for the rest, I'm just trembling in fear. You scare me big fella. <<

You'll be delt with by the firm i work for and they know the proper legal channels.

If you think you can't be prosecuted, don't kid yourself. You're in for a rude awakening if you think this is some kind of game.

Every IP that hits my firewall goes right to my IT group and the Compliance Dept of my company is notified.

All i'm doing is gathering everything that comes my way.

I warned you what would happen and now its out of my hands.


I'm still trembling. *quiver* *quiver*
You're going to look so stupid when you find out that I have better things to do then waste my time trying to get into your kiddy porn filled computer.
What happened to the fond farewell you were bidding all of us? Just like Salem, didn't last long.

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
If's it not you that's been hacking into my PC SusanS, then you have nothing to worry about.

The IT's guys and my compliance dept people will sort it all out.


I hope you catch them because hacking is not only so traceable, it's stupid.
I'm a jerk but I'm not dumb.

Salem said...

no
we arent the same person.
maybe we are the only ones that have posted today that have any sense. We arent lying like you are and taking other peoples id's.

Anonymous said...

Salem said...

"no
we arent the same person.
maybe we are the only ones that have posted today that have any sense. We arent lying like you are and taking other peoples id's."

One thing you and savage have in common, both of you are fighting like the CORNERED RATS THAT YOU ARE.

LMAO!!!!!

Salem said...

7

pal in California.

Anonymous said...

a certain individual tried to obtain personal information in an attempt to aquire a credit card under fraudulent terms.

the person was located and prosecuted. I take identity theft very seriously.

I don't need to hear what's going on in Salem's personal life and that's none of my business.

You may think its a game and you like to bust balls, but you don't know when to quit.

I have a sense of humor to a point but, when someone tries to criminally harass someone, thats where i draw the line.

I've asked this person to stop with the hacking ..... and it hasn't stopped. It only seems to have escaleted.

I now have my IT group and my firms compliance department involved and they don't have a sense of humor.

If you think you won't get prosecuted, you're dead wrong.

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
no
we arent the same person.
maybe we are the only ones that have posted today that have any sense. We arent lying like you are and taking other peoples id's.


Salem Salem Salem. You can lie until the end of time, but it's all starting to catch up with you. Conversations are now being logged and turned over to the cops. Calls are being recorded, as you've said you have done as well. Why is it breaking the law for others but not for you? Threatening a child is about as low as you can go. You can lie here if you want too, but you and I both know it's all true.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem, you lie so bad. I've seen your bullshit. I've seen you tell people that Col is stalking you. Others have seen it too. Is lying all you know how to do?

Salem said...

Salem Salem Salem. You can lie until the end of time, but it's all starting to catch up with you. Conversations are now being logged and turned over to the cops. Calls are being recorded, as you've said you have done as well. Why is it breaking the law for others but not for you? Threatening a child is about as low as you can go. You can lie here if you want too, but you and I both know it's all true.

2:08 PM, December 06, 2006

OMG
what a lie!

Susan_Sucks said...

Savage Disciple said...
a certain individual tried to obtain personal information in an attempt to aquire a credit card under fraudulent terms.

the person was located and prosecuted. I take identity theft very seriously.

I don't need to hear what's going on in Salem's personal life and that's none of my business.

You may think its a game and you like to bust balls, but you don't know when to quit.

I have a sense of humor to a point but, when someone tries to criminally harass someone, thats where i draw the line.

I've asked this person to stop with the hacking ..... and it hasn't stopped. It only seems to have escaleted.

I now have my IT group and my firms compliance department involved and they don't have a sense of humor.

If you think you won't get prosecuted, you're dead wrong.



Savage I have no beef with you. I don't even know you. Everything I posted here was directed at Salem, no one else.
If someone is hacking you, then you're right to go after them.
If you don't like reading about Salems crap, then just skip over it. She's been telling everyone that you and Jane Doe are the same person. Course she'll deny it of course, but several of us have seen it.

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
Salem Salem Salem. You can lie until the end of time, but it's all starting to catch up with you. Conversations are now being logged and turned over to the cops. Calls are being recorded, as you've said you have done as well. Why is it breaking the law for others but not for you? Threatening a child is about as low as you can go. You can lie here if you want too, but you and I both know it's all true.

2:08 PM, December 06, 2006

OMG
what a lie!


Like I said before, it's not as though anyone expects you to actually admit it. Who would admit to threatening a little boy?

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
7

pal in California.


48 states left. Keep guessing.
While you keep trying, I need to get a few things done. Be back to argue with you again shortly. I knew you'd never leave. You've said a million times you were leaving and you never do. Poor Salem, no one begging you to stay.

Anonymous said...

You can count me in as having seen Salem saying that Brad Pitt and the Col were stalking her. I also saw where she claimed Col was picking her up in his private jet, bringing along a stalking Brad Pitt with him.
I don't know about any messenger threats, but I don't doubt they happened. No one is going to admit to threatening a child. How many times has this blog been in turmoil because of Salem? Either she's attacking someone, and driving all the good members away, or she's fighting with members of MT's forum.
Some of us come here to read about the case and are forced to watch the garbage and baggage that Salem lugs in here with her. Too bad to, this used to be a great blog. Until Salem and her psycho shit took over.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Excellent post wuwjgu, I couldn't agree with you more.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

meatwad said...
Salem said...

"no
we arent the same person.
maybe we are the only ones that have posted today that have any sense. We arent lying like you are and taking other peoples id's."

One thing you and savage have in common, both of you are fighting like the CORNERED RATS THAT YOU ARE.

LMAO!!!!!


LMAO! Good one and oh so very true.
Isn't it funny how they both start posting at the same time, then stop posting at the same time.

1969cielodrive said...

raising my hand. I saw it all too. The stalking, her saying that the col keeps calling her and begging for any information she has so he can use it in his book. I saw it all.

Susan_Sucks said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...
I have been on some of the boards where Salem was telling everyone she was being stalked by everyone from Brad Pitt to Col Scott to Big Bird.

wupjgu said...
You can count me in as having seen Salem saying that Brad Pitt and the Col were stalking her.

1969cielodrive said...
raising my hand. I saw it all too.


Wow. It's amazing that four people have seen all this and Salem claims she never said it.
Fascinating.

Anonymous said...

SUSAN SUCKS SAID,

"Wow. It's amazing that four people have seen all this and Salem claims she never said it.
Fascinating."

Of course, you are posting with multiple id's, LMAO!!!!!

Susan_Sucks said...

I don't need multiple id's, one works just fine.
It's a big world out there with lots of people in it.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not posting with other ID's either.
I don't even live in the United States.

Anonymous said...

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

"Sorry to disappoint but I'm not posting with other ID's either.
I don't even live in the United States. "

Uhh, no. Not disappointed 'bout anything.

I was pre-empting the next comment from salem/savage. Which would have been a hysterical "you are all the same person" comment from them.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

meatwad said...
helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

"Sorry to disappoint but I'm not posting with other ID's either.
I don't even live in the United States. "

Uhh, no. Not disappointed 'bout anything.

I was pre-empting the next comment from salem/savage. Which would have been a hysterical "you are all the same person" comment from them.

Oh ok, I'm sorry. I misunderstood your post. I figured they'd say that too. It's only a matter of time.

Susan_Sucks said...

meatwad said...
helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

"Sorry to disappoint but I'm not posting with other ID's either.
I don't even live in the United States. "

Uhh, no. Not disappointed 'bout anything.

I was pre-empting the next comment from salem/savage. Which would have been a hysterical "you are all the same person" comment from them.

I'm sure that's coming. How many of Mark Turners friends did she accuse of the same thing? Maybe we can expose Salem to her annoyed husband lol
It should be interesting to see how she's going to explain herself to her hubby should the cops come a knockin. According to her, he has absolutely no idea that she *knows* Charlie, that she *writes* to him, *owns* his thongs (the ones she's claimed she threw away, but still has) and is overly obsessed with a convicted murderer. She says that dear ole hubby would divorce her if he even founds out she posts on this blog. But does anyone remember when she posed in here as her husband? I do.
She keeps threatening little kids and he will find out. Hope she has fun explaining it.

Anonymous said...

Salem/Savage are blowin' smoke.

Listen to how rediculous this is. Savage is gonna have corporate lawyers and corporate computer people waste their time going after people that post on a FUCKING MANSON BLOG!!!!!

Are you insane if you believe that shit?

I am not. Umm, Insane. LMAO!!

Savage is a punk, nerd.

Salem is a over cut up hick housewife.

They might know a pimple faced geek that can look up an IP address.

Wow. So scary.

Anonymous said...

LOL. The truth comes out. Salem tells so many lies she can't keep them straight. I was witness to this veiled threat against this child, but then she has to turn everything around, say she was just playing. I have seen the threats here she has made against people, the last one being Meatwad.
She runs around the internet, claiming the Colonel is stalking her, gonna send his private jet for her because of all her information and contacts with Sandy and Charlie. From reading here, the Colonel has called her crazy, said he would hug her if she would stop sending him all the email lies and crap she was doing etc.
What does it take? A note from her shrink to make her stop? Please get your lawyer after me, I am so scared.
Instead of hanging around a blog where no one wants you around and lying about something that happened 40 years ago, why not take up knitting?
Patiently waiting for Chasing Beers to come say how wonderful Salem is.
Patiently waiting for their attacks to begin when they think everyone went to bed.
If you are going to spread these lies, at least stand by them.

Salem said...

1969cielodrive said...
raising my hand. I saw it all too. The stalking, her saying that the col keeps calling her and begging for any information she has so he can use it in his book. I saw it all.

2:49 PM, December 06, 2006
Col Scott
you need to step in here at this point, yes, i have sent info to you via email, and pics*
I have never said you were sending a plane to pick me up, NOR CALLING ME OR TO help write a book. I have seen the name name Don M on several places I go on the pc.
Brad Pitt is not stalking me. ROTFLMAO... I NEVER said that.
last by foremost, I have never said i would send a Hell Angels to harm a child. Since I have had the pleasure to know many in the Angels the last thing they would do is hurt a kid.
MY GOD you are all insane.

esp u susansucks with your post *She's been telling everyone that you and Jane Doe are the same person. Course she'll deny it of course, but several of us have seen it.
I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT, I KNOW WHO SAVAGE IS. I DONT KNOW JANE DOE.
SO SHOW ME WHERE I SAID SAVAGE WAS JANE DOE YOU LIAR! YOU CANT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT!!!!!
FREE LESLIE!!! SHE NEVER KILLED ANYONE!!!!!
POOR CHARLIE DIDNT EITHER BUT OF COURSE HE WILL NEVER GET OUT ALIVE, HES THE BOOGIEMAN!
TEX AND BOBBY AND BRUCE CAN ROT.

Susan_Sucks said...

meatwad said...
Salem/Savage are blowin' smoke.

Listen to how rediculous this is. Savage is gonna have corporate lawyers and corporate computer people waste their time going after people that post on a FUCKING MANSON BLOG!!!!!

Are you insane if you believe that shit?

I am not. Umm, Insane. LMAO!!

Savage is a punk, nerd.

Salem is a over cut up hick housewife.

They might know a pimple faced geek that can look up an IP address.

Wow. So scary.


I agree 1000%. IT people can't do squat about a hacked ip address. All they'll get is the ip adress of the person who did the hacking. Then wha? Dance naked in the streets with it?
All they can do is pass the firewall logs on to the internet provider of the hacker. That's it. Big whoop.
My firewall pops up several times a day because of packets sent to me by my own provider. If people are so paranoid about hackers, why do they even go online? Instead of the IT people looking for the hackers, maybe Savage's boss should be looking into how much time he spends on a Manson blog during company time.

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
MY GOD you are all insane.

I'm wondering the same of you. You know what you said. It was just last night, have you forgotten it already?

Susan_Sucks said...

humanitysboil said...
If you are going to spread these lies, at least stand by them.

Price of a new computer cause you were hacked on a Manson blog -$1500.00

Price of a good firewall to prevent hackers on a Manson blog - $39.99

Price of the best statement I've heard in a long time - Priceless!

Salem said...

Salem is a over cut up hick housewife.

LOL MEATY
IF YOU WERENT SO FUCKED UP U WOULD BE FUNNY.
I HAVE A HOUSE AND I AM A WIFE!
CUT UP? UMMMMMM
DONT GET THAT ONE, BUT THATS THATS A GOOD THING, I'M NOT ON YOUR LEVEL.

Anonymous said...

Well I am glad you think us insane, for if you thought I was a good person and sane I probably would have to slit my own wrists. If you are sane, I would rather be a boil on humanity :)

Anonymous said...

I'm channeling Sandy tonight, she says that she never heard of Salem and she wants this to stop. And if Savage continues, he will lose his Ford.

Something about a bad transmission.

Susan_Sucks said...

Salem said...
Salem is a over cut up hick housewife.

LOL MEATY
IF YOU WERENT SO FUCKED UP U WOULD BE FUNNY.
I HAVE A HOUSE AND I AM A WIFE!
CUT UP? UMMMMMM
DONT GET THAT ONE, BUT THATS THATS A GOOD THING, I'M NOT ON YOUR LEVEL.


The fucked up commenting about the fucked up. At least Meat doesn't run from blog to blog, message board to message board lying his ever loving ass off.

Susan_Sucks said...

meatwad said...
I'm channeling Sandy tonight, she says that she never heard of Salem and she wants this to stop. And if Savage continues, he will lose his Ford.

Something about a bad transmission.


Now that is funny! LMFAO!

Anonymous said...

Wait. I'm hearing from Catherine Share now.

She says, "Hi, Bobby!"

"I'm bidding on that vehicle you stole from Hinman on ebay."

"What should my highest bid be?"

"They say its a Pontiac GTO."

"I thought it was a Volvo?!!!.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

"The Col has been stalking me for two years"
Those were your exact words Salem. I may not be American, but I do live in an english speaking country.

Susan_Sucks said...

"I thought it was a Volvo?!!!.

You mean it isn't the Yugo Salem's been driving?

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute...Im actually channeling Savage...

"I am so sorry for lying about having corporate entities scare you guys.

I cannot do this myself and I was getting frustrated.

So I lied. And guess what? This isnt the first time I have lied.

I dont really have any balls."

Well, thats all I am channeling right now.

Meaty

Anonymous said...

savage is the one who posted the links telling everyone how to hack a computer now he's whining like a little girl about his laptop being hacked. what a pussy.

Susan_Sucks said...

Can you try channeling Charlie? I want to know what he really thinks about Salem.
Especially how he feels about her owning his thongs. Then throwing them away. Then owning them again. Then throwing them away. I think now she says she owns them again, but give her a few minutes and she'll say she threw them away.
We need Charlies opinion on this.

Anonymous said...

candygrammer said...

"savage is the one who posted the links telling everyone how to hack a computer now he's whining like a little girl about his laptop being hacked. what a pussy."

Pussy to the max.

And he want to meet Chucky in the Octogon? Please.

Chucky would crush his head like a walnut bare handed, lol.

Anonymous said...

Susan_Sucks said...

"Can you try channeling Charlie? I want to know what he really thinks about Salem."

Calling out to Charlie...Charliiiiiiieeeeee?

Charlieeeeeeee?

Speak to us Charlieeeeeeee!

Susan_Sucks said...

You might have to yell, he might be on the other line with Salem, stalking her lol

Anonymous said...

Nah...no response.

He might be in the hole again.

Meaty

Susan_Sucks said...

Damn, well keep trying lol

In the meantime, what does Linda have to say? lol

Anonymous said...

Lindaaaaaaaa!!!!!


Calling to LINDAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!


SPEAK, LINDAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Charlie spoke to me.

Salem is running around acting like she is going to paralegal school, so she can go in and interview Charlie for a book she is supposedly doing.

She can't pass gas let alone paralegal school.

Please, the guy doesnt admit to knowing her, can't blame him, and if according to her Charlie doesn't lie, then what?

Susan_Sucks said...

She can't pass gas let alone paralegal school.

LMFAO!

Anonymous said...

Hello, This is Linda Kasabian.

Wut the fuk you want? I was sound asleep after drinking two fiftys.

ColScott said...

okay
what the hell is all this shit? how is any of it relevant to anything? do you people have lives?

for the record

I don't know who Salem is. I have never spoken to her, much less stalked her. I think she is off her trolley so I ignore most of her postings. She is not working on any book or ANYTHING with me.
Thanks.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

No life here lol
Thank you Col. We all knew she was full of shit anyway.

Susan_Sucks said...

meatwad said...
Hello, This is Linda Kasabian.

Wut the fuk you want? I was sound asleep after drinking two fiftys.

4:58 PM, December 06, 2006

LOL!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

ColScott said...

"okay
what the hell is all this shit?"

We are seeking the truth just like you.

Susan_Sucks said...

I knew she was full of crap about the stalking thing. The part that bothered me was the threatening of a little kid.
Can't people have a discussion about anything without someone threatening someone else? You especially don't tell someone you're going to *get* their kid.
With that, I will bid this topic a fond farewell. I only hope she's learned from her mistakes and remembers that threats online can come back to bite you in the ass.

Dok said...

Salem said...
Savage Disciple said...
That's nice.

The Meathead appears to have trashed all of his posts along with mine.

I have to admit, he's a crafty fuck, whoever he is.

I think i'll bid farewell to the blog for a while ... the inmates are having too much fun.


well Savage, yanno there is one person here that has 9 handles.( or more)
Think I will bid farewell also for a while.
Tis the season to be Jolly!

9:28 PM, December 05, 2006


>>> Santa can it be true, Salem is finally leaving?!!!!! I think I'll cry with joy.

Anonymous said...

ColScott said...
okay
what the hell is all this shit? how is any of it relevant to anything? do you people have lives?

now col scott, if any of these people had lives, you wouldn't have a blog to laugh at and give you any humor in your life

ColScott said...

Poche
The truth about Salem is not a truth worth seeking.

Anonymous said...

ColScott said...

I don't know who Salem is. I have never spoken to her, much less stalked her. I think she is off her trolley so I ignore most of her postings. She is not working on any book or ANYTHING with me.
Thanks.

Poche
The truth about Salem is not a truth worth seeking.

col scott seems to be stumbling a bit tonight. first he says he knows nothing of salem, then he says the truth about her is not worth seeking. well col. which is it? do you know or don't you know?

Anonymous said...

This blog should be converted to a Transformers blog because we have to many Decepticons in here as it is.

As for Poche ..... I've heard the name and I've heard the accusations. I could care less. It's his business. I don't poke around in people's personal lives so what Poche does doesn't concern me.

Poche seems very high strung ... like a squirrel on hot tin roof. That's his business.

The name calling and the other crap is getting old and i don't see any point in just dragging it out.

As for Tex Watson .... I said it here and i said it publicly ..... I'd take him down if it would Free Leslie so that's about all i'm going to say on that subject. I don't see the point in keeping him around and feeding him until he outlives us all.

As for Salem or anyone else who frequents this blog, I have no beef with anyone in particular. What people do here is their business and it's not for me to pass judgement on someone.

The carrying on and the name calling just makes everyone here look stupid and it doesn't solve anything. It just turns people off from wanting to participate.

There ... i've said my peace.

Anonymous said...

Colscott said:
>>The truth about Salem is not a truth worth seeking.<<

The truth comes from the voice of this moment :-)

You won't find the truth unless you have the wisdom to know what the truth is when you see it.

The truth can also easily be hidden so unless you're of the mind that seeks the truth, you won't discover it.

Some things weren't meant to be discovered.

Anonymous said...

You deleted one of my posts too ... shame on you Don :-(

Jane Doe said...

Susan_Sucks said...

"She's been telling everyone that you and Jane Doe are the same person. Course she'll deny it of course, but several of us have seen it."

Savage and I aren't the same person. Jane Doe is the only screen name I use for this blog.

Pristash said...

A little reprise:

So that makes shooting someone ok? Just so long as you don't intend on killing them? Is that a hick law?

NO YOU BACKWOODS TURD, ITS THE FREEKING LAW. IF YA HAD A DAMN BRAIN YOU'D FIGURE THAT MUCH OUT.
GO FETCH FIDO*

Perhaps this hick, freeking law is what saved Dick Cheney from some serious prosecution.

Just sayin

Salem said...

Savage and I aren't the same person. Jane Doe is the only screen name I use for this blog.

6:02 AM, December 07, 2006

No Jane Doe
I never said you and Savage were one in the same person.


The truth can also easily be hidden so unless you're of the mind that seeks the truth, you won't discover it.

Some things weren't meant to be discovered.
true Savage.

but let the little lab mice run around and chase tails wondering, oh my my , what happened that day, who had the gun, who sold the drugs? Who was there that night? what where they wearing? whene did they leave, where are they now?
LOL
send them all a Clue game for Xmas.

Anonymous said...

Salem Said:
>>No Jane Doe
I never said you and Savage were one in the same person.<<


Jane Doe and I are not the same person. That should be quite obvious to anyone who frequents this blog.

For one thing, i don't pass around things that are personal in nature like Jane Does.

Unlike Jane, I don't betray other people's private feelings and it's why i have nothing to do with her anymore.


>>but let the little lab mice run around and chase tails wondering, oh my my , what happened that day, who had the gun, who sold the drugs? Who was there that night? what where they wearing? whene did they leave, where are they now?<<

Colscott's book might do better if it was about BigFoot because he'll have any easier time proving it's existance than he ever will of trying to piece together the pieces of this puzzle. If he hasn't figured it out almost 37 years after the fact, he never will.

1969cielodrive said...

Salem, everyone else has dropped it and moved on. Maybe you should too. Just a suggestion.

Salem said...

If he hasn't figured it out almost 37 years after the fact, he never will. says Savage

8:10 AM, December 07, 2006
and wonder what is to be solved?
LOL
Its all out there to see. Ask the right person and He wont lie.

as for you u
1969cielodrive I WASNT speaking to you at all.

1969cielodrive said...

I didn't say you were speaking to me, This IS a public forum. If you don't like anyone speaking to you, why do you post here? I was merely making a suggestion that you move on. This blog has been congested with your drama too many times. Can't you stop beating the dead horse? Obviously the answer is no.

Anonymous said...

1969cielodrive is right, you're constant need for attention and dragging this blog down with you has grown tiresome. Go get a face lift and lose the black eyeliner, maybe you'll feel better about yourself.

Salem said...

1969cielodrive said...
I didn't say you were speaking to me, This IS a public forum. If you don't like anyone speaking to you, why do you post here? I was merely making a suggestion that you move on. This blog has been congested with your drama too many times. Can't you stop beating the dead horse? Obviously the answer is no.

9:16 AM, December 07, 2006

LOL
not my drama , its the idiots here that want to lie and turn the blog into a drama. not I!
Beating a dead horse. ummmmmm
Charlie didnt kill anyone.
sorry if it offends ya , but its the truth.
Leslie didnt Kill anyone, thats the truth.
Tex did. Bobby did. thats the truth.

1969cielodrive said...

Salem said...
LOL
not my drama , its the idiots here that want to lie and turn the blog into a drama. not I!
Beating a dead horse.

It is your drama, your name is all over it. That's how it always is. You've always got drama with some one, some where, and it always ends up over here.
All I did was suggestion you drop it. Since it's pretty obvious you're just going to keep harping on it. I will just pretend that I never asked.
Have at it, you're the only one who will look pathetic. I will say no more on the subject because I'd like to see it dropped, not kept going. Bye.

Jane Doe said...

Salem said...

"No Jane Doe
I never said you and Savage were one in the same person."

I'm not accusing you, Salem. I'm only responding to what someone else posted so that there is no misunderstanding.

Salem said...

Jane Doe said...
Salem said...

"No Jane Doe
I never said you and Savage were one in the same person."

I'm not accusing you, Salem. I'm only responding to what someone else posted so that there is no misunderstanding.

9:48 AM, December 07, 2006
Oh I know Jane Doe, it was someone else. not you.
Its been so many lies said here about me. Not from you.
I understand your werent accusing me.
:)

Salem said...

meatwad said...
SLAVEAGE TO A IDIOT...WITH NO BRAINS SAID,

"The media is all about sensationalism."

No...the media is what you get from it.

If you want sensationalism...there ya go.

If you want coherent, logical thinking..one can find it.

Try not to be so hysterical, grasping at favorite icons like michael savage...they are selling you out like a crack whore by a pimp.

try to develop some thinking on your own...

maybe an original thought.

not something spoon fed you by the colonel or savage.

4:46 PM, December 03, 2006

I think Meaty started ruining this thread from the start. not me! If u look back Meaty is the bully and trouble maker.
just sayin'

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Salem said...
I think Meaty started ruining this thread from the start. not me! If u look back Meaty is the bully and trouble maker.
just sayin'

If Meaty is being a big mean bully, you're free to go play some place else. It's not like your presence will be missed here.

helterskelter_aug_1969 said...

Dok said...
>>> Santa can it be true, Salem is finally leaving?!!!!! I think I'll cry with joy.

Salem will never leave here. Even though she says she will at least once a week . This is the only place on the web that hasn't banned her.

chasingbunnies said...

It's not just about this and that, It's the entire flatulence of it all. There's more here than meets the eye. So, let me tell you something...Here goes!
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then she stalked, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
So, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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he, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

::::::::deep breath:::::::::

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And, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
then, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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then she, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
So, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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then she stalked, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
So, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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he, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.


:::::deep breath::::

So, there you have it, and it's an ugly scene, the authorities
are on it and treating it like all embedded messages of an Internet terrorist cell, or a fetishist perverted, covert NAMBLA operatiion full of freaks who dig severe body piercings, mummification, chocking, decubitus ulcers of the buttocks, asphyxiations, and public canings.
cb


11:39 AM, December 07, 2006

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