Friday, March 22, 2013

Immediate Family Only

Hi there.  The Col is back from an hour reading the inbred LS8 blog and listening to them argue about why Bruce Davis should have been released.  Did you know you could actually feel your brain cells whither and die while reading that blog?  The Col still encourages every blog out there, the more the merrier.  But when you name yourself and your blog after a redneck Southern Rock band which supported the Confederate flag, surely it isn't because you want to do serious research about TLB!?  Of course not.

This seems to be the blog where the loons go to fly.  Mr. Poirot has a wide berth over there if you know what I'm saying.  I just read a bunch of their posts and comments about Bruce Davis.  They seem to be trying to insult the governor for not freeing him for all sorts of reasons.  Of course there is one good reason not to free him-

He KILLED somebody!

So we aren't here to support Bruce.  I have told you that he is not getting out.  Punk is gonna die in prison.  His wife figured that out, what haven't the inbreds?

The Col is much more interested in Debra Tate (Orca) and Barbara Hoyt (Orcette).  See Bruce and the girls can lie their asses off at every hearing and they do.  But they are where they belong.  Debra and Barbara lie their asses off in every hearing and pretend they don't.  They also contribute to the confusion about the case and that the Col does not abide.

So the Col got a very well researched email from a member of the research crew who cares about the truth.  Guess who's been lying to the Parole Board?  You're gonna be shocked!


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Hi Colonel!

I am so incensed that Debra Tate and Barbara Hoyt were allowed to represent Gary Hinman's family at Bruce's parole hearing that I decided to write to Davis' attorney and tell him what I knew about Gary's family.  See the email I sent him below.  He wrote back that because the Governor did not overrule the parole board on anything to do with Tate and Hoyt's being at the hearing it would not be grounds for an appeal.  But he was very interested in what I sent him.  He does not like Tate and Hoyt any more than you or I like them.  He said that he would certainly use the info for the next hearing in mid 2014 particularly if the DA's office trots those two out again.

Beckman and I exchanged a couple of emails and then asked me what I knew about Tate and Hoyt, if I could dig up anything on them.  I was able to find some stuff on Hoyt, she has had numerous civil cases against her in Idaho where she lives.  They are all because she owed money she didn't pay, had her wages garnished etc.  She's a huge deadbeat.

I will send you what I found on Hoyt in another email.
What doubly pisses me off is that the LA DA's office is the instigator in having Tate and Hoyt at that hearing.  They knew damn well how Gary's sister felt about things!
Name Redacted

From: NameRedacted
To: Lawyer who still Uses Aol for emails
Subject: Bruce Davis/ Gary Hinman Relatives
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:12 -0800

Mr. Beckman

I am writing you in regards to the victim witness situation for Bruce Davis's last parole hearing. There were two people who spoke on behalf of the Hinman family, one of those persons was Debra Tate who was supposedly there for a first cousin of Gary Hinman.  The reason it was claimed for a cousin submitting a statement was that no one else was alive. This is simply not true!  Both of Gary Hinman's sisters are still alive.

I am attaching a number of things to support this fact.  First is Robert Hinman's, Gary's father, obituary naming his survivors. (the first two daughters in his obituary are Gary's sisters, the second two daughters are Robert's step daughters, his second wife's children from a previous marriage. Gary's mother died a few months after he did, Robert remarried after that.)

Second and third attachments are Been Verified reports on both of the sisters. I have done social security death index searches on both women and neither of them are listed as having died.  Barbara Jean Hinman apparently has some competency issues as I found a law case where this was discussed.  It was a case about an easement issue involving sister Carole as well.

http://co.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.19890706_0040310.CO.htm/qx

I also found something regarding Carole Hinman Romberg and her feelings on testifying at a parole hearing for Bobby Beausoleil.  She had moved on and did not wish to be involved any longer, according to her daughter who answered the request from the LA County DA's office informing Carole of her right to speak at the hearing.  I'm pretty sure you would be able figure out which of Carole's daughters answered the request from the DA's office from the pdf with Carole's info.  The parole hearing of Beausoleil's is at this link and is on page 86 of the document.  It is Beausoleil's 2010 hearing if the link does not work.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:STuHfjpmNREJ:www.cielodrive.com/transcripts/BobbyBeausoleil2010Parole.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjIbD891_X1O22-W1Tue2D7K5qjHFmcEVEtv73Wduaqn1XVBLmWqj1zjnQliYHUAaeS4hYTC4SLwOWm_fyhCACY091YakLlZmJ_-m7qOzb4GTXFqmNEX4F92LF1ZlWCXcXD1SGu&sig=AHIEtbR2j6Qa4Zoiab61A87CFygkWwjdfQ

I also have some information about some of Gary Hinman's first cousins on his mothers side of the family.  None of the first cousins names match the names of the people being represented by Debra Tate and the other person.  This is an obituary for Gary's aunt.

http://www.postindependent.com/article/20021011/OBITUARIES/210100028


Gary's father had one sister, Margaret Elizabeth Hinman, her married name was Chapman.  She was born in 1903 in Colorado and died in 1991 in California, where she had lived for decades.  Below are the death index records for her.  I believe her husband's first name was Hilton, although I am not entirely certain of that.  I did find a death record for a Hilton Chapman who was from Colorado and died in California in 1963.  Margaret Hinman Chapman got her social security number in 1963 in California, so that kind of fits. 


I was able to locate a 1940 census record for Margaret and Hilton Chapman.  They lived Colorado in that census.  There were no children listed on that census report.  If the person claiming to be a first cousin named Kay Martley was Margaret's daughter she should have been on that census as Kay Martley is 75 years old.  See fourth attachment.

I am not a forensic genaologist so can not guarantee total accuracy of all this information but I am experienced with doing this type of research.  I would suggest that you have someone else blindly try to replicate what I have learned for verification.  There should be grounds for an appeal I would think.

Respectfully

Name Redacted
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Therein follows much information about legal claims against Barbara Hoyt (Clayborn) who does appear to have problems paying her bills.  Too bad the book with Nellie/Molesto never panned out!

Anyway, The DA needs to address this.  Are these two attention seeking, burger inhaling, father ashes hoarding beached  whales lying to the government?  Since when do the wishes of a first cousin trump the wishes of a sister?





California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Margaret Elizabeth Chapman


Name: Margaret Elizabeth Chapman
[Margaret Elizabeth Hinman] 
Social Security #: 568720473
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1903
Birth Place: Colorado
Death Date: 31 May 1991
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Richards
Father's Surname: Hinman

Social Security Death Index about Margaret E. Chapman

Name: Margaret E. Chapman
SSN: 568-72-0473
Last Residence: 94536  Fremont, Alameda, California, United States of America
Born: 10 Sep 1903
Died: 15 May 1991
State (Year) SSN issued: California (1963)


















21 comments:

SurelyYouJest11 said...

Col said - "But when you name yourself and your blog after a redneck Southern Rock band which supported the Confederate flag, surely it isn't because you want to do serious research about TLB!? Of course not."

As if the name of a blog indicates the seriousness under which it operates. Good grief, were you sticking your tongue out when you typed that?

ColScott said...

The name of the Blog and the handle you use speaks VOLUMES as to who you are and your seriousness of purpose. Of course it does.

How serious would you take a blog that called itself
"JimNY's Little Mary Fairy's ButtPlug Blog Looks at Charles Manson"?

What a moronic comment for you to make. I am embarrassed for you and your teachers.

La-de-la said...

Hate is so unbecoming.

Cindy Lee said...

Again, a great read, Col. And, kudos to "Name Redacted".

Hopefully, this will hold true in mid-2014: "He said that he would certainly use the info for the next hearing in mid 2014 particularly if the DA's office trots those two out again."

And, Col, I guess you made your point - LSB officially changed the name of their blog. Just for you, I assume.

Suze said...

To "Tard Blog" I hope. It's the only fitting name!

bobby said...

stupid bullshit, I admit I am illiterate.

SurelyYouJest11 said...

That you would suggest that a name indicates anything as to the seriousness of purpose clearly shows you to be the intellectual equivalent of a rock. Good grief. Buy a mirror and look into self-examination.

ColScott said...

Brian Davis (Surely you Jest) doesn't think a name matters, yet spent months publicly fighting over a name. People are weird.

Brian Davis said...

ColScott said...

Brian Davis (Surely you Jest) doesn't think a name matters, yet spent months publicly fighting over a name. People are weird.

If I may clarify, first, "Surely You Jest", is not me.

And I can assure that if and when I do post I use my known ID.

Second, it wasn't me fighting over a name, that was your Cats friend.

I actually even changed the name.

But she thinks she owns all of my interviews too now, yes, some people are weird, but, delusional is someone who thinks they own the truth on tate labianca be it a radio program, book, or website.

And that would be Cats.

Thanks for letting me clarify, unless this blog is now on Evil Sleaze format where only the "privileged" or perhaps "gold memberships" get their comments through when the comments disagree ? Does the Col even do gold memberships ?

ColScott said...

Brian-
1- You ARE Surely You Jest - why in the world would you deny such a thing?
2- Your comments are always welcome here- you bring a welcome spark of knowledge to every conversation.
3- Everyone is my friend who is seeking the truth. You, Cats, Liz, even the evil Mark Turner. Everyone. We are all in this together, trying to make sense of what our forefathers have left us.

Doc Sierra said...

ColScott said...

Brian-
1- You ARE Surely You Jest.
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No he doesn't jest and please don't call him Shirley.....

Brian Davis said...

Col, thank you for the reply and the kind words, are you feeling ok ? lol. But on principle only, I would like to reply back to #1:

1-You ARE Surely You Jest - why in the world would you deny such a thing?

Doc Sierra beat me to it except, I do like to jest, I admit, lol,

But I deny it only because it simply isn't true. I only appeal to your reason and your vistors ip address log.

I don't mind saying I use two main ip addys and one remote ip when I'm at my favorite coffee shop, which I am at as I write this post.


One of my main ip address starts 24.252. if that helps. The other one I am not sure as I don't use that connection as much but I will be happy to get it and give you all the ip addy's I use for you to match up against the "Surely" ID if that helps ?

Other than "Surely" coming out and straightening this out I can only offer you my promise that the "Surely" ID or any other ID is not me nor do I know who they are and if the "Surely" ip addy is coming out of Roanoke, VA, which even I would find that hard to believe, I swear I have no knowledge of who they are. As I said previously, I only post under my known ID.

Again it's only a matter of principle and isn't a big deal to overall, but, I wanted to appeal to you once more to see if we can get it straightened.

I don't deny I am weird, tho.

Will the real "Surely You Jest" please stand up ?

ColScott said...

Brian
Again, there's no need to deny it you are among friends. I don't even care if you pay those parking tickets in April. I just want to know what the TLB motive was.

Panamint Patty said...

When you gonna take that stupid thing about Patty down, Brian? We all know now that you are the only professional in the game and that the rest of us are "amateurs." You have made your point.

PS: She still has those stupid phone messages you left her IN THE MIDDLE OF HER BIOCHEM FINAL last December. You know, the ones where you called her a "cock-sucking cock-a-roach," remember?

Patty's main point is, can't we just kiss and make up now?

Panamint Patty said...

*crickets*

Suze said...

Panamint Patty said...
When you gonna take that stupid thing about Patty down, Brian? We all know now that you are the only professional in the game and that the rest of us are "amateurs." You have made your point.

PS: She still has those stupid phone messages you left her IN THE MIDDLE OF HER BIOCHEM FINAL last December. You know, the ones where you called her a "cock-sucking cock-a-roach," remember?

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Stay classy, Colie.

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SurelyYouJest11 said...

Brian Davis is NOT me. But by all means Col, keep making false statements of fact. It just reinforces what a dipshit you really are.

1nonbeliever said...
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1nonbeliever said...

LSB3 has become a one of a kind blog. Yes that is right. If you are not one of their kind, well they will not allow any of your thoughts to be posted on their blog.
Dissention or free thinking is not allowed at LSB3, I think they even put this in their forum rules.
It states:
To post on this blog you must meet one of the following criteria
1.Be the legitimate offspring of one of your siblings
2.Be incapable of rational thought
3. Must believe the very unfunny show All In The Family to be life lesson in reproduction
4. Have a lobotomy done
5. May not have a HS diploma
6. You must only be able to read and comprehend on no higher than a 3rd grade level
7. Must not be capable of thinking for yourself
8. Must be able to read thru a entire post by St Circumstance without yawning
9. Do not even try to post anything that makes sense but is in disagreement with almighty Matt
10. Any violation of this forumns rules and you will immediately be suspended and your girlfriend/sister will be recalled back to LSB3 land for re-issue to the next relative