tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post5991524661563560707..comments2023-11-03T03:18:55.138-07:00Comments on Official Tate-LaBianca Murders Blog: The Manson Fairy TaleColScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-31890546760677988382015-11-07T19:40:58.215-08:002015-11-07T19:40:58.215-08:00A.C. Fisher Aldag said...
"When he requested...A.C. Fisher Aldag said...<br /><br />"When he requested that some of them not use amphetamines, they ignored him"<br /><br /><br />In George Stimson's book, he would not accept that there was even amphetamine use at the ranch. "That's bullshit. They didn't have nothing like that when I was there. Because I would have known it....well, he {Tex} could have been. Maybe he was. But it wasn't on my ranch. It might've been on Tex's ranch, but not on my ranch - there was none of that junk."<br /><br />So if two of Charlie's most vociferous supporters contradict each other on this, who does one believe ?<br />It's not only the killers or {ex}Family members that have conflicting tales. It seems to follow Charlie regardless.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-633061463551515262010-02-02T06:39:49.676-08:002010-02-02T06:39:49.676-08:00Really good, summarizes well why alot of us are he...Really good, summarizes well why alot of us are here....frustrating that the media doesn't pay any mind.<br /><br />But, Col, don't be dissing Bertice Berry. I've known her a long time...starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-35849458848504734092010-02-02T00:10:08.459-08:002010-02-02T00:10:08.459-08:00I think Charles was the cool kid on the playground...<i>I think Charles was the cool kid on the playground, but not a "leader" as in, "Do this cuz I said so".</i><br /><br />Then, how to explain the accounts of those disciplined by him for not paying attention or speaking when he was? The confiscation of glasses? The beating up on people and organising their sex lives? The 'grope list'? The way he delivered 'his girls' to the bikers with signals to 'strip and suck'. <br /><br />But I'll not develop this argument further cos I can't (and you won't) see the point. AC, you know I respect you but you really should look objectively at what you post from time to time - you just don't make sense sometimes. <br /><br />Your friend<br /><br />FrankFrankMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929422641281493764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-13060198102794372692010-02-01T17:53:24.918-08:002010-02-01T17:53:24.918-08:00I think Charles was the cool kid on the playground...I think Charles was the cool kid on the playground, but not a "leader" as in, "Do this cuz I said so".A.C. Fisher Aldaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037549489100226097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-9972601176833135492010-02-01T12:32:32.853-08:002010-02-01T12:32:32.853-08:00AC, you really are being a little disingenuous her...AC, you really are being a little disingenuous here. There is a wealth of testimony to support Charles' leadership, not to mention trial testimony and photographic evidence of scarred foreheads and shaved heads. <br /><br />It always amazes me how intelligent people like you can bury their heads in the sand. But this time you surely can't accept that CM, in his 30s, was not (whether he wanted to be or not) a father figure to his sad collection of misfits and losers?<br /><br />FrankFrankMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929422641281493764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-48834799449999318182010-02-01T12:17:46.392-08:002010-02-01T12:17:46.392-08:00He, and others who were there, say otherwise.
C...He, and others who were there, say otherwise. <br /><br />Charles wasn't even leader of the bike club that was present. He was the mechanic.<br /><br />He says that he couldn't even motivate the young folks to clean the barns. When he requested that some of them not use amphetamines, they ignored him.<br /><br />Those who come from a mentality of "leadership" or "followers" sometimes believe that is the way of every society. It wasn't true of Spahn Ranch. Mostly pure anarchy.A.C. Fisher Aldaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037549489100226097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-8088419973447214702010-02-01T00:56:04.376-08:002010-02-01T00:56:04.376-08:00AC
Please. Charlie was the authority. Don't ...AC<br />Please. Charlie was the authority. Don't make obviously stupid points.ColScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-81284774303097727192010-01-31T12:56:15.408-08:002010-01-31T12:56:15.408-08:00Wow. Just wow.
One slight criticism: Why does th...Wow. Just wow.<br /><br />One slight criticism: Why does there always have to be a "leader" of the "family"? There was no such thing. Not Paul Watkins, not Lynette, not Charles. It was a bunch of people who hung out in the same place. There wasn't any organization.A.C. Fisher Aldaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037549489100226097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-74892656830429573052010-01-31T03:06:44.320-08:002010-01-31T03:06:44.320-08:00That is why I got rid of my copy of Helter Skelter...That is why I got rid of my copy of Helter Skelter.sptrfnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05403975568634491162noreply@blogger.com