tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post5148473274512209353..comments2023-11-03T03:18:55.138-07:00Comments on Official Tate-LaBianca Murders Blog: The Order of Red and BlueColScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04198505620789173534noreply@blogger.comBlogger167125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-54531949448170188872007-12-24T05:29:00.000-08:002007-12-24T05:29:00.000-08:00Thank you Deadwood!I completely agree with Marlies...Thank you Deadwood!<BR/><BR/>I completely agree with Marliese, you have a sweet, gentle spirit..<BR/><BR/>I hope you have a wonderful Christmas!!<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-61142624208963383412007-12-23T14:06:00.000-08:002007-12-23T14:06:00.000-08:00A.C. Fisher Aldag said... What would Charles be do...A.C. Fisher Aldag said... What would Charles be doing if he wasn't accused of orchestrating someone else's perpetration of crimes, and incarcerated?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I think he'd probably be long dead if he wasn't incarcerated.Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-82037524970405659842007-12-23T14:00:00.000-08:002007-12-23T14:00:00.000-08:00deadwoodhbo said... Heaven your knowledge on the m...deadwoodhbo said... <BR/>Heaven your knowledge on the manson case is awesome ,shall i be bold and say almost has good has Col:P.the rest of the group are great to.It is really nice to see people understanding this CRAZY! world.I would say happy christmas but i wouldnt mean it,dont like christmas all about how much money to spend .<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Your posts have a sweet and gentle spirit, Deadwood.Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-29919094527494271952007-12-23T06:14:00.000-08:002007-12-23T06:14:00.000-08:00whoops me sorrywhoops me sorrydeadwoodhbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833243029692385071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-75323847096501870592007-12-23T00:24:00.000-08:002007-12-23T00:24:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.deadwoodhbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833243029692385071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-86359427751105820612007-12-22T14:58:00.000-08:002007-12-22T14:58:00.000-08:00Heaven your knowledge on the manson case is awesom...Heaven your knowledge on the manson case is awesome ,shall i be bold and say almost has good has Col:P.the rest of the group are great to.It is really nice to see people understanding this CRAZY! world.I would say happy christmas but i wouldnt mean it,dont like christmas all about how much money to spend .deadwoodhbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833243029692385071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-10561442193450745042007-12-22T13:13:00.000-08:002007-12-22T13:13:00.000-08:00Oh lord. ROFLMAOA predictable response pertaining ...Oh lord. ROFLMAO<BR/><BR/>A predictable response pertaining to the dosing. <BR/><BR/>I know I know, the shaman placed value on the use of certain drugs for certain purposes. (I know this being the daughter of the Wolf Clan medicine man and I are friends). But I do believe, that even said medicine man would have issues with dosing children with substances even under the guise of religion.<BR/><BR/>Nuff said. Such a predictable response. Had higher hopes on that one, honest Injun. (pun intended)<BR/><BR/>Happy Holidays and all that happiness to all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-13660818487816446112007-12-22T12:38:00.000-08:002007-12-22T12:38:00.000-08:00ROFL Jean!!Well said!=)ROFL Jean!!<BR/><BR/>Well said!<BR/><BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-73023104169741252852007-12-22T12:15:00.000-08:002007-12-22T12:15:00.000-08:00AC (In the Christmas spirit, obviously believing i...AC (In the Christmas spirit, obviously believing in paganism you wouldn't believe in) please shut the fuck up. <BR/><BR/>JeanJean Harlowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04829439806415553870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-3295606655937608992007-12-22T12:08:00.000-08:002007-12-22T12:08:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-61966908090156109732007-12-22T11:14:00.000-08:002007-12-22T11:14:00.000-08:00Um, Heaven, I see more speculation and conjecture,...Um, Heaven, I see more speculation and conjecture, no hard facts. No concrete evidence. And no implication of Charles M., even if we were to stretch our imaginations and consider these statements as factual. <BR/><BR/>Just an accusation of "abuse" by conservative Xian authorities, to demean a society where clothing was optional. Clem was accused of indecent exposure, wasn't he? For wearing jeans with a rip in the crotch. If it's "abusive" for children to view human nakedness, then all Inuit children are abused, all Tlingit children are abused, all children in sub-Saharan Africa are abused, children in Japan (who commonly sleep w/ parents, even during lovemaking), all rainforest tribal children are abused... That was one of the justifications of the Native American Indian children being taken from their parents... they needed to be taught to wear clothing! They were trapped in the same tipi or lodge where their parents were (gasp) having relations! An insistance on body-image shame is a woeful part of our puritanic Amerikan heritage, and another painful symptom of the cancer that is Christianity.<BR/><BR/>Marliese: Not only is my daughter "not suffering", she is thriving. Rousing success in the material world is awfuly hard to dispute. Is nakedness and getting dirty somehow unhealthy? If so, the starched-petticoat Victorian era should've been the best, most mentally stable society EVER. Been told that rock and roll music is bad for children, too.<BR/><BR/>Cats: Yeah, I consider dosing children to be a dicey practice. Could be dangerous. So let's abolish the administration of Ritalin, Adderol, Valium, Prozac, Zoloft, and any other mood-altering substance within the public schools, shall we? No to mention those mandatory vaccines... Wish I had a nickle for every time I've had to advocate for a family whose public school system or medical establishment insisted on dosing children to keep them docile, quiet and free of pesky curiousity, I'd be a wealthy woman.<BR/><BR/>What would Charles be doing if he wasn't accused of orchestrating someone else's perpetration of crimes, and incarcerated? Well, yeah, he might be avataring Gwydion the God of wisdom, poetry, magick and thieves... but more likely he'd be co-headlining this year's Hogg Bash w/ David Allen Coe, and our stage would be in serious danger of collapsing from the collective weight of all the groupies. His inventions would already be patented, on the market, and the planet would regreen within a five-year period. And life would be most grand.<BR/><BR/>www.myspace.com/officialcharlesmansonatwa<BR/><BR/>Metal & Manson, moderated by the lovely Miss Herlaka Rose. She actually taped part of Charles's "Air" speech which I partly wrote out here and which also appeared on "One World ATWA".A.C. Fisher Aldaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037549489100226097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-74893622817913012922007-12-22T09:51:00.000-08:002007-12-22T09:51:00.000-08:00Hey it's great that your daughter hasn't suffered ...Hey it's great that your daughter hasn't suffered but the fact remains that many child brides, consensual or arranged, suffer devastating consequences ~ interrupted childhoods, no education, emotional and physical abuse, poverty, health problems from early childbirth etc etc etc.<BR/><BR/>And the children at Spahn Ranch, yes we've all heard and read how revered the children supposedly were, and i don't know what photographs you're looking at, maybe some vision in your own mind, but the ones I've seen are photos of naked, sunburned, dirty, malnourished children with hauntingly sad expressions on their faces...children suffering neglect at the hands of their parents and friends of their parents...you know, those people that went out and killed the mothers and fathers of other children for reasons still undetermined some 38 years later.Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-26589531106349221922007-12-22T09:28:00.000-08:002007-12-22T09:28:00.000-08:00AC, just to help you out, here are a few blog entr...AC, just to help you out, here are a few blog entried the Col made about Dennis leaving hs kids at Spahn. This is just to show you that his leaving them there is common knowledge. <BR/><BR/>http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/11/suffer-little-children.html<BR/><B>No word yet on whether he mentions his young children that he left at the ranch to be sexually abused by Clem and others.</B><BR/><BR/>http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/09/20-questions-for-mark-turner.html<BR/><B>11- If Dennis Rice was doomed to purgatory for allowing his small babies to be molested at the Ranch, how much time out does he get for converting to Christianity?</B><BR/><BR/>http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/06/dennis-rice-says-he-loves-you.html<BR/><B>Of course, people like Dennis Rice (never did give us an answer about what happened to his children that thanks to him had sex with people like Clem, did he?)</B><BR/><BR/>http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/03/rice-phony.html<BR/><B>If it doesn't explain why Dennis left his children (those are his in the Hendrickson documentary) at the ranch to be used as sexual playthings as I understand they were (children under 10) then screw your false hypocritical Jesus worship Mr. Rice.</B><BR/><BR/><BR/>These are only a few. If you go to this blogs homepage, type in Rice, it'll give you all the topics that this was discussed in..<BR/>While it's true that HE (Dennis Rice himself) didn't "join" the family until after the murders, his children were members in his absence...<BR/><BR/>I hope this helps you in learning some of the facts of the case...<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-33922401677391154302007-12-22T09:24:00.000-08:002007-12-22T09:24:00.000-08:00Allrighty. The giggling happy children, perhaps to...Allrighty. The giggling happy children, perhaps too stoned out of their collective childhoods to stop smiling. Not knowing what other children had or were doing. Dosing kids aint cool in my book.<BR/><BR/>And if Sadie tried to blow my boy, she would be eating her own green ooze. Is blowing babies a healthy thing, or is sleeping with dogs, just as Red told the one cop they did? <BR/><BR/>Just saying.<BR/><BR/>Would love a new topic...please oh pretty please Colonel Scott, sir....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-65359331108273267222007-12-22T09:13:00.000-08:002007-12-22T09:13:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-2269711514802209502007-12-22T08:39:00.000-08:002007-12-22T08:39:00.000-08:00It is difficult to either justify or rationalize s...It is difficult to either justify or rationalize something that did NOT happen. Cheerfully combatting the emotional outbursts w/ solid logic and a liberal dash of mysticism: <BR/><BR/>Dennis Rice did not even meet Mr. Manson until Mr. Rice read about the unfortunate incidents in the papers, watched the news on the TV, and subsequently visited Charles in jail. He did not have contact with the inhabitants of the Ranch prior, nor did his youngsters.<BR/><BR/>With all the accusations the "born again" Xians of Manson-to-susej have made, don't you think they all would've pinned that accusation on Charles, too, if they had the opportunity?<BR/><BR/>The children at the Ranch of Poetry and Inspiration were treasured, treated like royalty, deeply loved. Listen to the recordings, hear happy children giggling during the songs. Look at the photographs of joyful kids splashing in the watering troughs.<BR/><BR/>I do not "worship" Charles, nor do any of my esteemed colleagues on the Manson Family Roller Derby Team (tm), some of whom are Christians, others of whom are Pagans like myself, or agnostics or Buddhists. Charles is respected as a spiritual person, and loved as a friend. <BR/><BR/>Would I trust him with my kids? Definately. They speak to him on the phone about once a week (or did, prior to the SHU). My daughter communicates with him on a mystical level as well, which I can't really do... she can heal birds and animals, too, just as Charles did... shamans are born, not made.<BR/><BR/>As for young women, my daughter started her own ffhain with an older manat age 15, and she seems to have turned out all right, on a material level as well as spiritual. Good job, college 3.5 GPA, bought her house on a lake at age 19, plays seven musical instruments, and helps with all our various projects. Reckon them are some "devastating consequences" alright. (Read my blog for more brags & pix).<BR/><BR/>Not to imply that either Charles or The Jewel of my Family or any other spiritual person are anything other than human beings. They need to eat and sleep, they get cranky, they make mistakes, they fart and belch, they know sorrow and love. <BR/><BR/>And the talent for prophecy isn't all-inclusive, either. One can sometimes divine the weather and know when to plant the crops, but not fortell the vaguaries of NASDAQ. One can occasionally predict the future of our society if we continue non-sustainable practices, yet not realize that one's friends are abusing harmful mood-altering drugs and are gonna go apesh*t and kill people. <BR/><BR/>Magick is a crapshoot.<BR/><BR/>And now, since I am aware that my license to proselytize about Avenging Truth With Aggression is rapidly expiring, I present to you more delightful websites:<BR/><BR/>On My Space:<BR/><BR/>All the Way Aware (music and truth)<BR/>Charles Manson Discography (music)<BR/>Family Jams (music)<BR/>Official Charles Manson ATWA (politics, music, truth and other cool stuff)<BR/>Charles Milles Manson (page authorized by Charles and maintained by a friend)<BR/><BR/>Elsewhere on the Web:<BR/><BR/>Manson Direct (updates on Charles)<BR/><BR/>Defenders of ATWA (ecology, animal rights and other important stuff)<BR/><BR/>Psyche Zenobia's blog (music<BR/><BR/>Happy reading, Merry Christmas, Blod Iul, joyful Yule, blessed Solstice, and Braw Alban ArthanA.C. Fisher Aldaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09037549489100226097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-43219700874584796532007-12-22T05:55:00.000-08:002007-12-22T05:55:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-63548358509145786862007-12-21T10:56:00.000-08:002007-12-21T10:56:00.000-08:00AC...Is there ever any criminal or sociopathic act...AC...<BR/>Is there ever any criminal or sociopathic act of Charlie Manson's that you don't justify in one convoluted way or another?<BR/><BR/>And you're okay with aborting childhood, and all the other often (if not for Loretta Lynn @@) devastating consequences of child marriage? You'd be okay with it for your kids because it was the way of your grandmother? <BR/><BR/>If this was 1969, would you be okay with your own prepubescent little boys or girls hanging at the ranch alone with Charlie and <BR/>his friends?Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-41509447715561558332007-12-21T05:27:00.000-08:002007-12-21T05:27:00.000-08:00Sorry for the deleted posts, my internet was being...Sorry for the deleted posts, my internet was being really goofy there for a few..<BR/><BR/>=)Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-31310008618580925522007-12-21T05:26:00.000-08:002007-12-21T05:26:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-80924666825356974982007-12-21T05:03:00.000-08:002007-12-21T05:03:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-65821831698032512032007-12-21T04:45:00.000-08:002007-12-21T04:45:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-38261902129654358562007-12-21T04:38:00.000-08:002007-12-21T04:38:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-69432008856460629092007-12-21T04:32:00.000-08:002007-12-21T04:32:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14352935.post-5200155611188625552007-12-21T04:29:00.000-08:002007-12-21T04:29:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391086783053721287noreply@blogger.com