Saturday, August 05, 2006

We Got Some LA TIMES Love




KTS peeps were asking about Ronnie Howard.

Here's the story from the LA TIMES.

Also we haven't had a story about the BUG being sued for lying and shit for a whole month.

Enjoy.

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108 comments:

agnostic monk said...

Paul Fitzgerald sued Vincent over the book because it made him appear incompetent?

Did the defense need Vincent Bugliosi to appear incompetent? Didn't they do a fine job of that on their own by throwing in the towel once the People rested?

agnostic monk said...

Salem said...
>>>why Linda?<<<

Wild guess; because she told on Susan?

Just like Ronnie Howard, anyone who opened their mouth against Susan deserves violent death or something. Everyone from Linda to Charlie to Tex to Pat to Susan's brother to Former California Governor Gray Davis is responsible for where Susan is, everyone EXCEPT Susan.

And partly because it sounds like Savage just enjoys fantasizing about beating defenseless women with metal pipes.

agnostic monk said...

Savage which scores are you referring to? If Susan is truly rehabilitated and takes responsibility for her actions, the idea of scores to be settled doesn't factor in. She should harbor no ill will towards the late Ronnie Howard or towards Linda. The outlaw mentality of settling scores, so prevalent in Susan's wild days, should be in the past.

agnostic monk said...

>>>At least Ronnie Howard is a thing of the past so there is some justice in the world.

It's amazing how people will just sell you out at the drop of a pin. There's no concept of personal honor anymore.<<<

what honor did Ronnie owe Susan? Savage if you confessed to me that you stabbed a pregnant woman to death and tasted her blood I would most certainly turn your ugly ass in. i'd flip on you in a heartbeat. Ronnie flipped on Susan. Good for Ronnie. Sucks for Susan.

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ColScott said...

cats
sure it would be
I do have it
a little patience is requested

Dok said...

Savage RDDB-DA said...
Snitches will be taken care of :-)

6:00 PM



Savage RDDB-DA said...
I wonder who it was who threw Ronnie Howard the beating?



I'm only sorry that i couldn't have laid a few down on her myself but it looks as if someone did a very thorough job.

It's too bad the Linda Kasabian never got the same.

6:09 PM


Savage RDDB-DA said...
Were any of the Manson family members treated for sore knuckles?

Personally, i think a led pipe would have been my weapon of choice. She'd have alot more than just fluid in her skull but then i'm a bit of a perfectionist at heart really :-)

6:16 PM

>>Someone has issues. These comments are priceless and I would hate for them to be deleted, so we'll save them for the history books.

Dok said...

The family and I are great. Hawaii was awesome, we hit three islands this trip. My favorite was the Big Island of Hawaii. How are things with you?

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Savage RDDB-DA said...
Ronnie could have stayed out of it but she took it upon herself to get involved .... in prison, you don't do that.

>>In normal society, you don't participate in murdering people. Susan is where she should be and I feel nothing for her.

Dok said...

And Cat's right, Susan is the Queen of the snitch scene.

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Savage RDDB-DA said...
>>>>I believe that Ronnie Howard's motives for snitching were not sincere.<<<

Honestly who really cares what Ronnie Howards intentions were in flipping on Susan? Most likely it was some combination of disgust at Susan's story (because as someone else pointed out Ronnie was a hooker not a cold-blooded killer) combined with some idea of what she might personally get out of it (charges dropped, reward money, etc.).

So what? That doesn't mean she deserved a metal pipe to the head in Savage's twisted revenge fantasy.

Savage is doing Susan and Leslie no favors by sticking to this jailhouse mentality of street justice and in the next breath advocating for their release because they've supposedly changed and outgrown that very same mentality.

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catscradle77 said...
>>>>WOuld it help the people you supposedly care about..Susan and Leslie? Or would they see it as a really BAD thing?<<<

it's likely that the modern day Leslie and Susan would want nothing to do with Savage or anyone else who parroted this idiotic street justice nonsense, like he's in a movie or something.

Leslie and Susan probably look back and realize that they while they can harbor some resentments towards Charlie, they really have no one to blame but themselves for where they are. Both of them blabbed to the cops in the beginning. BOTH of them.

agnostic monk said...

Savage why does everything wind up being a verbose diatribe about how cool you think you are?

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catscradle77 said...
>> I don't think anyone would want this kind of street justice, except some kinda teenager, who thinks it makes him big and bad to talk this shiat...big and bad until he gets his ass kicked<<<

true cats, and the operative word here is TALK.

Dok said...

First I would like to say thank you to the Cat for the nice complement. The one thing that I really want to be known for is a man that loves his family.

Susan Atkins was telling the story of being responsible for killing Sharon Tate and Gary Hinman long before they were arrested for murder. Right? Then how is it that Charlie was controlling what she was saying. I mean, she now says the only reason she took credit for the murders was because Charlie told her to do so. Why would he tell her to do that before the were even busted?? I believe she did stab Sharon Tate. Pat K. has even stated that she saw her stabbing Sharon. And the whole Tex taking the blame, he know that he will never get out, so why not help another Jesus freak.

agnostic monk said...

Savage, dude, get a grip. It's a shame you have to keep turning it into a "look how cool I am, look how much the rest of you suck" game. I think everyone welcomes your input but disagreeing with you doesn't make anyone here stupid or beneath you or unable to stand up for their own beliefs. It just means they disagree with you.

All your lectures about "political correctness" and being such a brave, dangerous rebel seem oddly misdirected and frankly, a little desperate to impress.

I hold some unpopular opinions about a variety of things. That does not make me Che Guevara.

I keep expecting Jon Stewart to drop in and point at your bowtie and ask "this is all theater, no"?

But I'm pretty sure instead we'll see some new handles pop up to hand out some lame ass-whoopins.

ColScott said...

dude
what is your deal?
you sometimes say intelligent shit
and other times just babble
buy that is fine
WHY DELETE STUFF?
Just stand by your words like a man, no?

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Deb B said...

Why does Savage go on these deleting tangents, and then he'll say "maverik" he is who doesn't back down. If he is actually writing the parole board, he sure isn't going to help Susan if he's writing what he says here and he won't be able to delete.

Dok said...

I thought with the stuff Savage was saying yesterday that he might have gone off his meds. He was quiet to long. There are many people discussed here not just Psyco Sue and the only reason we discuss them is because of their actions in 1969.

I am Infidel Number two (aka Juan Flynn)-

agnostic monk said...

Actually, *I* am three personalities. I am the Col and Savage, I must confess. Plus Monk makes three. Oh wait I forgot I'm also Ruth Ann that makes four.

And Linda lives in my pocket.

This place does sometimes feel like the looney-bin that Susan Atkins belongs in. :)

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uncle ace said...
>>>OK, my turn to 'fess up. I am the Ghost of Linda's Pigtails!<<<

Oh no! If Linda's Pigtails are now in ghostly form, that would mean that they are dead because she cut them off!

Blasphemy!

Linda's pigtails live!

Deb B said...

I am the child that Sharon Tate was pregnant with when she was murdered.

Trying for the most looney impersonator of all.

Dok said...

Alright, lets knock this off.. I am the real Colscott.. and Mark Turner. Who cares if theres a book or a movie deal. How would that be bad????????

Deb B said...
I am the child that Sharon Tate was pregnant with when she was murdered.

Trying for the most looney impersonator of all.


>>>I VOTE FOR DEB-and first prize is a Buck knife!!!

1:30 PM

Would second prize be a leather thong?? And third prize.. a date with Roman P.

Dok said...

Colscott is Savage said...
ive been watching the goings on with this blog for months.

Colscott has attracted attention but since he is exposed as a fraud, the book is now open.

3:54 PM

Please show me where the Col has been exposed as a fraud. I'm not seing it. The only thing I see exposed here is the little green monster that lives in you. And Linda's pigtail are the root to the worlds evil.

Cat, sixties is fine.. heat at 350 for 25 minutes....

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Colscott is Savage said...
Colscott probably copied it to another place and then posted via that URL.

the important thing here is that Colscott was proven to be a phoney trying to use his Savage puppet to project his ambitions.

Colscott is really no better than Clark Ronson when you look at what he was trying to do

4:02 PM

As the Col would say, "If I hug you, will you go away"

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Colscott is Savage said...
Don Murphy = Cortex_Jnr = Colscott = Savage = Catscradle77 = 1969Cielodrive.

there are other id's he uses as well.

my understanding is that he used a number of names on the charliemanon.net board but was kicked off by the webmaster.

oddly enough, Colscott dressed up in Savage clothing and was bashing webmaster mark. naturally the posts were deleted.

5:32 PM

Blah, blah, blah, blah, paranoid, squawk, squawk, squawk, squawk, everyone is the Col, blah, blah, blah, blah, nothing of note to say, squawk, squawk, squawk, squawk

Dok said...

Yes Cat, I am the Col and the almighty Webmaster. And on special occasions, Ruth Ann

Dok said...

What amazes me, is this Col is Savage person is so power hungry. The need for this shim (not sure if its a man or a woman so, shim)to threaten me the Col!!! I laugh at you...ha ha ha ha ha, bring it!!

agnostic monk said...

Wow, I go away for a few hours and it's Cielo Drive in here!

Not that it matters, but I'm positive there are more user id's in this forum than there are human beings.

Doesn't anyone find it coincidental that this latest id is surfacing after Savage's latest meltdown?

Heaven said...

I have no idea anymore who's who lol....

I even missed the meltdown lol

=)

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Deb B said...

When I look at pics from the 70s and 80s - it looks like just about everyone wore glasses had fugly glasses. If you had really bad eyesight and thick lenses - they were uglier - times before featherweight lenses.

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Jean Harlow said...

Male Nurse on Crack

what ever happened to paul crocket?
was he the guy that was plugging juanita wildebush up at barker?

No, that was Crockett's partner, Bob. Does anyone have a picture of Crockett?

Dok said...

Deb said...
Male Nurse on Crack

what ever happened to paul crocket?
was he the guy that was plugging juanita wildebush up at barker?

No, that was Crockett's partner, Bob. Does anyone have a picture of Crockett?

10:30 AM

He Deb, There's one on Cielo Dr.com I think if you click on Paul Watkins there's one with Crocket, Brookes and Watkins.

Dok said...

Bebelestange said:
I'm referring to the person who runs this board, Col. Scott as people call him although I doubt that he's ever served one day in the military and doesn't deserve the honor.

>>If you know anything about this case you would know who Col. Scott was. And I'm not talking about the owner of this blog who seems to be under attack.

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bebelestrange said...
>>The credibility of this blog would be gone. Unless people have no problem blindly following someone who has purposely misled them.<<

Blindly following? Who here is blindly following anyone? This blog is not Spahns Movie Ranch. Some of us have spent plenty of time DEBATING with the Col about various things (cough-cough-linda-is-not-satan-cough-cough).

We luvs the Col to the depth of our being for the forum he provides and the book/article/video excerpts, BUT there are plenty of grown-ups in here who can think for themselves.

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Thanks Doc

Dok said...

Hey Cat, How's sixties?

Heaven said...

Well, here's my worthless opinion... It really doesn't matter to me who Col Scott is... He's been a good friend to me so I appreciate him for that, who ever he may be...

=)

Heaven said...

And any info that comes from CG is usually wrong anyway. So she's not exactly credible...

Dok said...

Cat I forgot to tell you that it might fly away, sorry.

Hey Heaven! How are you?

Heaven said...

I'm doing great Dr Dodopariti, and yourself?

=)

Dok said...

Col, We need a new topic, this one is FUBAR.

Heaven said...

All I wanna know is, what proof does anyone have that Col Scott is Savage..

Can anyone divvy up some proof besides just empty opinions?

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Colscott is Savage said...
>>>And did you know how Don goes and pumps the rape theory right around the time when LVH comes up for parole?<<<

How in God's name would pumping the rumor, on an internet blog, that Linda Kasabian was raped by Woytek Frykowski ever have any effect on Leslie Van Houten's parole proceedings?

It wouldn't. Not even a little.

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Colscott is Savage said...
>>>Now when Eddie picked up on the fact that Colscott was claiming that Linda K was raped, it's alleged that eddie spoke to someone on the media side who is interested in pursuing this claim that colscott is making.<<<

God this is so stupid. Even if some producer or whomever over at Court TV somehow became interested in the Kasabian rumor based on things read on these forums and blogs it'll be a dead-end unless Linda herself confirms it. There is absolutely no way of proving it otherwise. Does Court TV think they're getting a tell-all interview with Linda? Tell them not to hold their breath.

Is Court TV in the business of promoting conspiracy theories that cannot be proven? If they try to run with the story are they prepared for the million dollar lawsuit from Kasabian's family for dragging them through the mud again so many years after the trial ended?

No, I didn't think so. This is just dumb.

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Heaven said...

Col Scott
http://www.blogger.com/profile/10619721

Notice he created his original ID in July 2005

Here is Savage
http://www.blogger.com/profile/16278098


Go back and look in the March archives, under the topic The Circles Of Hellfire. Savage was 2nd poster. Click on his ID.

It's VERY easy to create ID's here to look like other people. I think several of us have already been impersonated...

Please tell me you have more proof than this.

As for the rape theory and Leslie's parole hearing. That's about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Leslie had nothing to do with the Tate murders. She was never tried nor convicted for them. The death of Voyteck has no bearing on her hearings.

If Linda had been raped and that was a motive for the murders, it would have come out a long time ago.

So unless you have more proof, please put up or shut up.

Heaven said...

The incredible shrinking thread lol

=)

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Heaven said...

Col Scott, next time you poke your head in, maybe you should consider setting this blog up so that only approved people can post. Once people have to start going thru you (you can then monitor IP addresses) then the riff raff will be cleared out..

I know you believe in freedom of speech and so do I, but there comes a time when you should consider using the features that Blogger gave you.

If you need any help, I'd be happy to offer...

You've put a lot of time and energy into this blog and it's awesome, except for the storms that keep blowing through.

The people on that stupid Manson group doesn't want any of US over THERE, but they have no problem coming here... Maybe it's time to consider some house cleaning...

=)

Dok said...

Hey Yepyep, lol one of us would have done it if you hadnt.

Good moring my fellow onions! Seems to be same stuff going on and the posts by the troll is just getting stupid. None of it makes any sense and no one has anything to explain.

Heaven, I like your idea.

Dok said...

Cat, Anything with a cow bell? LOL

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Dok said...

Yup :) I wonder how long it's going to take before I get accused of being "ColSavage", whoever that is... LOL

9:35 AM

Duh, I knew all the time that you are ColSavage, I was just playing it cool.

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Heaven said...

ID is NOT me..

The games are starting again and I tried to stay out of all of it.

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Heaven said...

This is too stupid to even bother with.

Any other Heaven ID is not me...
My ID was created January 2006..

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Dok said...

I'm Juan Flynn, when I'm not the Col or Marc Turner! 60's so glad to see you out and about, just sorry the stuff is flying. I agree with you, Ronnie did the right thing. Hey have any of you read Tex's online book? I'm reading it now and wanted to chat about it.

Listen Cat, it's our song, do you hear the Cowbell? Ahhhh music to my ears.

Dok said...

Heaven, don't worry about us, we know your character and don't believe the trolls.

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Dok said...

Go to his website and it's there to read. I'm only on the 3rd ch. But I find it interesting to read after Little Paul's book.

I'm doing the tater for ya Cat!

Dok said...

60's what did you think of Tex's book? And did you get to read Paul Watkins book? I realy was quite interesting.

Dok said...

What I meant to say was that "it" was quite interesting, not me, lol

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Dok said...

Thanks for asking, our vacation was awesome. We went to Oahu, Maui and the Big Island of Hawaii. The Big Island was by far my favorite. We hiked to the volcano, we hiked in a tropical rain forest and went snorkling. Great time!

agnostic monk said...

Speaking of Susan, I find this picture fascinating. I would love to know exactly what was going through the minds of all FOUR women at the exact moment this pic was taken (yes, FOUR, including Bertha The Dynamic Deputy).

If you can't see the whole url, simply click on my profile and click on My Web Page.

http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/ootdie/photos/ph03/images/15.jpg

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60skid said...
>>>Susan looks like her nasty self .I sure Susan was thinking ..Oh Look everyone is looking at me ..<<<

for that brief moment of time that constituted the days up to and during the trial, Susan felt like a rock star. She couldnt sing like Janis Joplin so she found another way to achieve fame.

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60skid said...
>>>Boy you got the 3 of them to a Tee Monk<<<

I just wonder what the three of them were thinking about each other that day. Susan's the one who ratted on them all. Leslie did a little ratting too, actually. So were they hating Susan? Did they say anything to each other while being walked to the courtroom for their araignments?

And Linda had abandoned the Family a few months earlier so Susan and Leslie couldn't have been too happy with her.

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Heaven said...

This has become way beyond pathetic. I dunno bout the rest of you, but I don't have the time to sift through all the ID imposters.

Talk to you all later.

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Dok said...

Hey Salem, have you ever read Tex's book?

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agnostic monk said...
>>>>it seems like the blog has been turned into a freak show.

i think i'll just sit out the chaos.<<<<


Hey check it, I've been impersonated too! I truly feel like one of the "Family" now.

:)

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Jane Doe said...
>>>It's certainly amazing how physically close Atkins, Van Houten and Kasabian were to each other in that photo. I'm surprised the authorities allowed that to happen when Atkins and Van Houten weren't even shackled.<<<

I'm pretty sure that picture was taken sometime before the trial when they were being arraigned. Patricia was still in Alabama. Linda had just returned from New Hampshire, heavily pregnant with her son, and was not yet designated a prosecution witness, though Gary Fleishman was campaigning for her immunity deal. Linda did have reason to fear them, however, because she had fled the ranch a few months earlier. I can't imagine that sat well with any of the loyal members.

Once she became a witness, there was no way in hell any of the defendants were getting within 10 feet of her or any other witness outside the courtroom. I can imagine Sadie would have absolutely RELISHED the idea of killing another pregnant woman, especially one who had turned on the Family (but that's just conjecture).

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Salem said...
Dok,
i ck ed out Tex's site.
It hasnt been updated since 2005.
Is it is active now?
me

>> I don't know if the site has been updated, but the book is there for the reading. Hope your having a nice weekend! I went to Del Mar Race track today and won big!

Dok said...

Untouched Talent ran in the 8th race and I don't think she won, we left after the 6th. But, the jockey who road her, Victor Espinoza, won for me in two races.

Dok said...

Sorry Salem, your right she did win.

Anonymous said...

There was a Colscott pic on my blog profile too.

Someone was playing around but i don't think the Col would do something like that.

Can you imagine if they hacked his blog and then deleted it?

It's one thing to sign onto someones id Uma longa faixa de sua vida se dissipou debruçado sobre a massa de pão de cada dia. Sem querer, se lembrava da textura da mas

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