Saturday, March 04, 2006

The Big Burn


So follow the bouncing ball....
Tex Watson and his chick Rosina Kroner plot to rip off 5 grand in weed from a well known black drug dealer.
(I've been to his house on Woodrow Wilson-there is no way this buidling was anything but happening even thirty five years ago. So he was obviously a dealer to some big people.)
Not sure if Rosina is in on it or not.
Tes DRIVES with Crowe/Lotsapoppa (who by the way, from photos I've been able to find is not that tall and not all that fat) to a building in Hollywood where he leaves Rosina in the car, takes the drugs inside to get the money, then walks out the back and disappears.
Now maybe Charlie did send him to do this. Charlie certainly picks up the mess aftrewards.
We'll get to that even some day.
But- Crowe was a big playa. He dealt drugs to Dennis Wilson (yup) and others in the Holly Hood.
The Col is beginning to think that CROWE and the drug burn (which comes within a week of both Hinman and TLB) is the missing link that needs to be examined closer.
Is the cold messing my thoughts up?

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WHITE RABBITT said...

col,
hinman had been planning to go to japan, hinman gave charlie some mda that he got from Frykowski the bikers thought it was a burn and wanted there money back, thats why they went to hinmans house to make it good, it is all conected back to Frykowski and abigail folger

ColScott said...

Nellie
No
Hinman gave the MDMA to BOBBY
The bikers then claimed it was no good
Who knows if it was good or they were looking to take advantage.
Anyway this is a Crowe posting.
Cradle- yes that is true.

Heaven said...

I agree with you completely, I think it deserves a closer look...

=)

WHITE RABBITT said...

zappa moved from the log cabin to a house on Woodrow Wilson,charlie thought that that lottapappa was a panther
and had lookouts at spahn watching for them after charlie shot lottapappa

Heaven said...

According to Tex (if you chose to believe him) everyone involved agree that if any problems came up, Manson would handle it...

That's why Charlie handled the phone calls.. Then, went and saw Crowe...

According to Tex, the buckskin jacket Manson was wearing when he was arrested in October, came from one of the guys standing there when Charlie shot Crowe...

WHITE RABBITT said...

remember charlie brought tj with him after the burn to meet with pappa and tj left soon after to go back home

Heaven said...

Monk is correct, 1981 in fact..

I liked how each time Manson attempted to go off in his usual rambling way, Tom would bring him back on the subject...

=)

Heaven said...

For those that have never seen the interview, you can read it here...

http://www.charliemanson.com/tom-snyder-1981.htm

=)

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WHITE RABBITT said...

in 68-69 other then the straight satans there was the wanabee bikers the gypsy jokers wearing colors and being on the strip and hollywood

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WHITE RABBITT said...

the gypsy jokers were in hollywood and la then in 68-69

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Heaven said...

I've never heard of any connection between Manson and Hells Angels..
It doesn't mean that a connection never existed, I've just never heard of it...

Charlie was pretty "small time", in the big scheme of things...
Like a little fish in a really big pond.

There could be any number of reasons why the Labianca's were picked, the least of them being random...

I'm wondering why the police made the little black book completely disappear. That has me wondering if maybe it wasn't an inside thing...

Leno had big debts. Like the Col said, big debts, big names...

Manson is the only person who knows why, and he ain't talking...

I'm personally ruling out drugs cause none was found anywhere in the home. I've known enough drug runners in my life to know addicts have stashes everywhere...
Not even a marijuana seed was found... But, on the other hand, maybe Rosemary/Suzan dealt but didn't use. Odd, but possible...

I think this was about money.. maybe big money....

But, what if we're all wrong and they were indeed random?

There seems to be nothing concrete to go on.. So, what if Manson was just touring a familiar neighborhood?....

I doubt it, but with him, anything's possible. I can't even begin to wager true motive on the Labianca's....

But then I come back to Rosemary having a wig shop, a Mexico connection.. Tex had a wig shop, Mexico connection...

Makes ya wonder if the two ever crossed paths....

So many questions, very few answers....

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Heaven said...

I know the SS were at the ranch, but I hadn't heard anything confirming the HA was too.. I had just heard rumors.. And you know how rumors are...

=)

Heaven said...

"Manson may be crazy, but he's not stupid."

Very true!

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WHITE RABBITT said...

if the angels ever saw a gypsy joker wearing colors they would take em from them, the gypsy jokers were scared of the angels

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Unknown said...

Wow this convo is old I don't know if this will even get noticed. I just found out about Tex' mobster drug connect who used a vending machine business as a front. I know who that was. That was Joel Rostau's partner Eugene Massaro. I foia'd his FBI file and he lived a stones throw away from Tex and his girlfriend and ran a vending machine business and dealt in narcotics. His FBI file is on Scribd for anyone who wants to read it.